I encountered an argument days ago in which a user simply put several existing parts together, and from unpleasant arguments I concluded that this user doesn't even know what giving credit is. Kinda frustrating, so it is the duty for we users on this site to "educate" them.
And here is proof, in case you feel like I am wrong.
The post
My United 747 (where tail is from)
REW's 747 (where wings are from)
Instead of questioning me if that user gave credit or not, we should see that even though this truly is just a small incident, since I have encountered such situations many times, today I feel like it is necessary to point out what we should do. That's what I'm trying to say here.
Not tryna be rude here, but the tail stablizers are just IDENTICAL and he did NOT give credit to neither the tail or wings, okay? Argument over. Or you can go check out that original post. @Brields95
@QingyuZhou k feel you. Someone copied my Avenger II, and he said "I bUiLt ThIs In 2 HoUrS"
@QingyuZhou 你的飞机更好啊
你的水平尾翼的控制面是白色的，另一个人的是黑色的
These kids are toxic strapping 5 extra jets on a plane That ain’t theirs and uploading it, your not funny doin that....just toxic....I try to avoid the “newest” listing because that’s where you find these kids
@QingyuZhou yeah. thats commonz i comment randomly at any posts whenever i want
Nothing wrong, it’s your freedom of speech. I’m just curious since you are commenting all over my posts. @enzoBoeing757
@QingyuZhou whats wrong?
Why are you commenting so much here?? @enzoBoeing757
@Trollium no, what i ment is before Zhou told me how to credit, i thought i have to use credit cards as credit
who is that guy?
@Trollium yeah! what QingyuZhou said "just state the name in the description" its not like im gonna give them my credit card,
@jelybaca can you link me to the the bf109 the guy made? thats my favourite plane
wow, yeah we do need to educate these bronze people
Did it say to ask permission or give credit on the post? @jelybaca
no like, just modded wheels and two way pistons. would it still count? Because they made those.@Tankace1
Did you get permission from them to use it and/or give credit? If so you are not, if not yes you are @jelybaca
Wait, I too used two parts from Mister_T and the guy who made the BF-109 with the most votes and used them in my Junkers project. Am I too, a plagiarist?
Ladies and Gentlemen,
We got ‘em.
It’s been dealt with already, don’t worry. I agree with you @ChiChiWerx
The vertical stab looks identical, especially that tab which sticks out a little. Measuring it for height, chord and thickness would clearly show it was identical and probably lifted. The horizontal stab does look different, but his does look like crap in comparison.
I have to agree, though, the double and triple down, then the absurd denunciation telling you that you never made a 747 for yourself would infuriate me as well.
But, that little nugget that it’s hard to win an argument against an ignorant person is true. It’s a scientific fact that people tend to double down even if they know they’re wrong, perhaps this guy changed the horizontal stab a bit, or even built a different one and is ignoring the horizontal stab...rationalizing that the cockpit was free to use. Now he’s defensive because he’s been caught.
Parts or whole sections is a bit of a grey zone...I’d personally not use whole sections, even manually copying them just seems wrong. However the SP “Rules” (which have been rewritten since the last time I read them) only state: “...Never upload a successor as an original design; give credit to the designer of its predecessor.”. Obviously, they added the successor system to help in this regard...but it only assuages the offended party, not because copying others’ creations is morally right. The rules do not discuss use of parts or sections or crediting other builders for anything but successors.
Ultimately, though, I agree with you; plagiarism can be a single sentence or single phrase buried in a whole book. Use of parts in SP is kinda the same idea. I’ve had entire planes of mine copied, but the mods are pretty good about spotting and removing them. I do tag mods if I recognize other posts which have been lifted, usually they’re entire builds and those are gone pretty quickly as well. To copy in whole or in part is at least uncool and, conceptually, “any duplication in whole or in part is considered plagiarism.”
@QingyuZhou I would just report him if I were you I ran into him awhile back with that post I think I have it yet idk what the name was I saved it as but the reporting part I would just do it cause he was just being rude and promoting your content as his
Just purge them all.
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These kinds of people are the kind who will make forum post about leaving the game because not getting enough attention, except they'll come back with even more copied creations 5 minutes later.
@QingyuZhou "I'm right because of the fact that this is my post and you're wrong because you're just the commentator." He's wrong because his plane looks like mine even though the tail is a different height!"
That's what you sound like right now.