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Cobra

13.5k brians1209  4.6 years ago

I'm going to make a su-33, and I want to make the plane perform the cobra maneuver.
Can anybody tell me how the cobra works and how can I make the plane perform a proper cobra?

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    Yeah @TrislandianAlliance

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    @Nerfenthusiast sadly the YF-17 prototype crashed ending the project and the plane altogether

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    @brians1209 from what I found, it was the YF-17, one of the submissions for the F/A-18 that could pull a cobra.

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    13.5k brians1209

    @Nerfenthusiast The F-18 can also do it

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    Fun fact: the Raptor is the only U.S production plane capable of performing a cobra.

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    I know the F-22 demo team will pull a cobra to slow the raptor horizontally, then max AB it to climb straight up in their demo. @TrislandianAlliance

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    @TrislandianAlliance No problem, I just like spitting out information on those two. They're both amazing designs with amazing histories.

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    @F104Deathtrap oh yeah, forgot about that..., somehow

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    18.2k exosuit

    you can remove the pitch limiter on the 21 so that you can have full elevator deflection
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    iirc the syrians used it as defensive measure

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    @TrislandianAlliance Mig-21 Fishbed, Mig-25 Foxbat Neither plane is supermaneuverable, but I assume you're talking about the Fishbed because the Foxbat is severely G-limited by its stainless steel construction and higher wing loading. The Fishbeds light weight and delta wing cause it to bleed off speed at an alarming rate when it pitches up sharply.

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    13.5k brians1209

    @TrislandianAlliance Thanks! Can you also tell me about how to make a plane capable of doing that in simpleplanes?
    Btw I changed my mind, I'm gonna build a J-35 draken
    I've used bigger wings for extra lift and VTOL RCNs for helping lift the nose up quickly.
    Could there be any other thing that can help?

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    Cobra is a manuveur where you pull hard on your stick (pitch in this case) and the plane will pitch up until the plane essentially standing on its tail (without changing altitude whatsoever) and making the whole plane as an airbrake, and then it will self stabilize itself when the wing got enough airflow, this technique need a plane that has excelent manouverability, powerfull engine and Thrust Vectoring (the latter doesn't needed in some cases) the first plane to ever do a cobra is Swedish built JAS-35 Draken, when facing the russian this technique often make russian pilot confused, later the soviet know their Mig-21 Foxbat can also do Cobra, but the most well known plane for doing cobra is Russian build SU-27 and its derivative, this plane not only it has excelent manouverability this plane also has perfect aerodynamic geometry which further make it more manouverable, there's only 1 or 2 US built plane that can do Cobra, most notably F-22 Raptor, even if the F-22 can do cobra various statement said it can only do partial cobra (not a perfect cobra) Raptor only has 2D TVC which some people said it was surpassed by the SU-35 and SU-37 in term of manouverability, SU-37 Terminator can do pretty much almost all manouver with its 3D TVC Shaming the F-22

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