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Down with the bees!

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Down with the bees up with the wasp
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Ant and wasp alliance

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    @Michiganstatepolice I am your friend now, you can't escape it you can't stop it we are friends now we are friends and we will be fore many happy eons good day

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    I thought you were a normal fan of mine.
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    @DeadlyDialga yeah ok

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    @Michiganstatepolice
    Also partly incorrect. They compete against each other for food, there’s never a clear victor in natural completion. As I said, who outcompetes the other depends on a variety of factors and it’s not a one sided fight. There are over 3000 species of bees in North America alone. It’s not just the Honeybees and the Bumblebees competing.

    Also the European Honeybee is in fact suffering mass deaths and disappearances. I encourage you to look up Colony Collapse Disorder, an event in which the majority of the workers either die or disappear due to mechanisms which we still don’t understand, though it could be due to pesticides or mites. Bumblebees do not suffer from CCD for reasons which we again, do not understand.

    Do not hit me with the ‘but I did research’. I literally study these types of things as a student. We’re not making this an argument. These are the facts, take them or leave them.

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    @DatRoadTrainGuy19 read @DeadlyDialga comment I got misunderstood

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    @DeadlyDialga thanks, sorry I misunderstood some sources thanks for the info, but atleast 4 bumblebee species are actually endangered or close to endangered thanks for the help, would you like to join in with the storyline of these massive insects?

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    @Michiganstatepolice

    Hi, Zoologist and Environment Scientist here. No, not necessarily. There seems to be an inherent misunderstanding of some facts, so let me break it down for you.

    There are invasive species and there are established species. Some species have previously been introduced or were originally invasive, but have become integrated into the ecosystem over time. Two examples of this in the states are Horses and the Peacock Bass.

    European Honeybees were introduced to the states in the 1600s and have since become integral to the native ecosystem. And damage they may have once caused has been erased by this gradual integration. The European Honeybee is the single most important agricultural insect and among the most common of bees as well as being among the most prolific pollinators. Without the European Honeybee, the US as we know it would not exist.

    Do European Honeybees and Bumblebees compete? Yes? Can the European Honeybee cause damage to Bumblebees? Yes. However this interaction is not exclusive to bees and invasive species. Competition is part of every ecosystem, native and non-native. Like a teeter-totter it swings back and forth, sometimes favoring one over another. There are scenarios in which Bumblebees outcompete the European Honeybees as well. Both can spread viruses to eachother, both can out-pollinate the other. In addition, pollination rates and honey production vary wildly between the two species and between groups, with other factors such as weather, climate, and season at play.

    If we were to suddenly turn around and exterminate or accelerate the already worrying decline the European Honeybee, it would be an ecological disaster of truly epic proportions. The food chain would collapse, famine and food shortages would become widespread, products such as dairy and cotton would become almost impossible to obtain, we’d lose a significant amount of biodiversity in regards to flora; food prices would skyrocket, and a economic crisis of untold proportions would occur. It would be many decades, if not longer before other pollinators started to restore the balance.

    Also, do not call me ‘misinformed’. I’m very well informed. Yes, Wasps can pollinate, but I left that detail out for a reason. Not not only are they not as good at it as other insects, they don’t even actively do it. Wasps lack the same adaptation Bees have to carry large amounts of pollen. Many insects have small hairs all over their body, not just bees and wasps.

    In addition, the only time a wasp will visit a flower is for two reasons. To get their sugar fix or to eat other insects, which is where they inadvertently pick up pollen. You know what a favorite insect snack among Wasps is? That’s right, Bees. Wasps and Hornets are notorious for raiding bee colonies, especially during summer months when pollination is most prevalent, slaughtering entire colonies to get at nectar and bee larvae to steal for consumption. Wasps are by nature carnivores and scavengers, their diet mostly consuming of other insects. The pollination provided by wasps only results in a small fraction of the produce we consume.

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    @Michiganstatepolice ah, thanks for the info, im sorry that my "info" is wrong.

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    T also, wasps are useless af, bee more useful.

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    Bees helping to pollinate a majority of crops globally which feeds humanity:

    Wasps being a complete and utter terror upon anyone outside that’s only really good at eating other pests:

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