So you've put your Pigpen into a flat spin...
When the Fly-By-Wire mode on the Pigpen is enabled (that big red button on the right side of the instrument panel), it becomes possible to take the aircraft into high AoA maneuvers that often, for inexperienced pilots, lead to loss of control. This will cause the aircraft to tumble, which - assuming that one has enough altitude to not crash immediately - will usually result in a flat spin. While control can sometimes be regained in the tumble with careful control applications, recovery and return to controlled flight becomes significantly more difficult once the flat spin has been entered.
The most reliable way of recovering from a flat spin that I have currently evaluated is as follows. This method will use, on average, between one and five thousand feet of altitude; flat spins at low level are simply not recoverable regardless of the method used.
- Keep Fly-By-Wire active. It got you into this situation, but it will also help get you out.
- OPTIONAL: If the spin is slow (less than about 0.25 rotations per second), jettison any external stores. This will make the aircraft significantly lighter, which can aid in spin recovery. At spin rates greater than 0.25 revolutions per second (i.e. one full spin every four seconds), jettisoning external stores is unsafe and could result in destruction of the aircraft.
- Throttle up to full power. In a flat spin, you have very little forward airspeed. Full throttle will do little to directly affect the spin, but it significantly improves recovery.
- Apply full nose-down elevator, and full rudder and aileron in the direction of the spin. This will increase the spin rate but will, within a few rotations, begin to tilt one wing of the aircraft down towards the center of the spin. Once this occurs, the nose of the aircraft will begin to drop.
- Continue to apply full elevator, rudder and aileron until the aircraft reaches a nose-down attitude. At this point, you are practically out of the spin. The aircraft will be in a 60- to 75-degree dive, spinning about its longitudinal axis instead of its vertical axis (i.e. rolling rather than spinning).
- Return controls to neutral. You are no longer in a flat spin, but a rolling dive. Release all controls so that you do not inadvertently re-enter the spin.
- Disengage Fly-By-Wire. Keeping it active beyond this point greatly increases the likelihood of tumbling the aircraft again upon recovery.
- Stabilize the aircraft. Apply opposite aileron to counter the roll, and pull out of the dive to return to level flight.
Congratulations! You have successfully recovered from a flat spin in the Pigpen!
Some other methods also work, depending on the characteristics of the spin. If the aircraft's nose is pointed upwards more than 60 degrees (a spinning tailslide), apply full throttle and extend the airbrakes. This will slow your rate of spin and rate of descent enough that the aircraft will eventually enter a conventional stall, at which point Fly-By-Wire can be disengaged and normal stall recovery procedures carried out.
@HuskyDynamics01 seems so. I still don’t see it tbh
@XM803ENJOYER46 I think you may have missed my point.
@HuskyDynamics01 yea, I’m only saying that I should (and can legally) choose for myself. Idc if you got every single booster, not my body, not my problem tbh
And about the “sides”, the assassination of Charlie Kirk has fractured the red vs blue even more!
@XM803ENJOYER46 Quite frankly, the vaccine debate doesn't matter right now. Party lines don't even matter right now. It's not red versus blue, black versus white, straight versus [insert alternative of choice here], religious versus atheist versus whatever else. The game has changed.
If someone can live and work with people who believe and vote differently from them - or, at the very least, not wish harm upon them - then that person is our ally. This isn't about whether someone agreed with Charlie or not, or what side of the political aisle they're on, or whether they got the vaccine or not. This is about the fundamental distinction over whether someone wants to debate and compete against their enemies about how to best seek the well-being of their civilization, or whether they prefer to have their enemies assassinated in order to get their way.
The old lines will return in time, I have no doubt of that. But for now, the game has changed, and everyone - whether they like it or not - is going to have to change with it.
But that's enough for this site.
@HuskyDynamics01 holy English teacher grammar bro 😎.
All jokes aside, you seem to have the exact same stance that I do (not politically [maybe], but morally and socially).
I hope you don’t think I was saying that words are violence lol, I was saying that a lot of people actually think that 💀.
I understand your decision of blocking him which he decided to do to me), but I feel that it is the same as denying a peaceful discourse. Yeah, he’s off his rocker (no offense, but he rooted for the killing of a quote “extremest political leader”) but if we talk like human beings, we can solve things just like Charlie Kirk tried to!
I don’t feel very strongly about the whole blocking thing but tbh I’m not gonna block anyone unless they are insane
On the other hand though, Graingy was so offended by words he supports the assassination of a PUBLIC SPEAKER WHO HE DISAGREES WITH. That is immature and sadistic. He told me to go to hell because I was an “antivaxxer”.
no
Im not.
I’m an anti “experimental drug that is rushed into production and made a person I know blind for days” for whatever that’s worth to you, dear Graingy.
My intake of medicine and vaccines is not your concern and I should not go to hell for an absence of it. I killed no one. COVID was a huge fear based craziness that caused so much damage to people’s psyche. If we all were recommended to mount huge foam blocks on the outside of our cars to lessen the impact force of a crash, but those blocks covered up the grill and would cause the radiator to not cool the engine correctly at times, would I want to mount them? No thanks.
I’m gonna take a wild guess here, but did you support giving 5 year olds or really at one point 6 month olds the vaccine?
And to Mr. @Graingy, because I know you'll most likely read this as well, I will unblock you in a few days (i.e. when the site lets me) once you've had the chance to cool down. I do not wish to silence you or prohibit discussion (though said discussion is better held somewhere other than here, for obvious reasons), but your jubilant support of murder and, as you carefully avoided terming it, a genocide of the people you so vehemently disagree with is simply not something which I will tolerate in the limited space that I have control over. Know that your hatred is not mutual, and I hope that you are willing to sit down and talk at some point.
If you're interested in having an open, non-antagonistic 2-way discussion, let me know. I can send you my Discord contact information if you would prefer to have it in private. I don't seek to fight you, just to have a genuine conversation about why we each believe the things that we do.
If you're not interested, or if you would plan to use such channels (and/or further communications on this site) for continued aggression, threats, and general outpourings of hatred, or to turn it into some kind of competition instead of having an open conversation, save yourself the energy. Pretend you're a B-52 pilot, shut down a couple of engines, get up out of your seat, stretch your legs, and go make a sandwich or something. You'll feel better afterwards, and we don't ever have to exchange words again.
Let me know which option you would prefer.
@XM803ENJOYER46
Unfortunately, you've discovered one of the biggest problems with social media (which, let's be honest, this site basically is at this point): the ability to just shout emotions into the void and remain comfortably anonymous, and to conveniently shut up anyone who doesn't echo you, if you so choose. There's nothing to say how genuine someone is or isn't being, and as such everything gets taken at face value. Like, for instance, how we now see that a certain someone would apparently be perfectly happy - overjoyed, even - if you, I, and half of the country were found dead in the street tomorrow morning for any of the relevant reasons which may apply to either of us.
That's very blunt, even for me, but I think you'll find that it's not inaccurate, at least as far as we'll ever know. I certainly hope it's not true, but unfortunately it's the way that the individual in question has chosen to express themselves, and that's all we get to go off of.
Let me be clear. Words are not violence. They can incite it, as we have seen all too well in the past several years in particular, but that's not the same thing. Sadly, though, violence is increasingly chosen as an alternative to words. There is no honor, no morality, no justification for that decision. It is born out of pure hatred and the vile, wicked belief that simply eliminating the person responsible instead of addressing and arguing with their words like a human being - as Charlie dedicated his life to doing - is somehow an acceptable alternative. The goal of such violence is not to bring about resolution, but to intimidate the opponent into silence for fear of their own lives.
The trap we (everyone, on all sides of the aisle) must avoid above all else is the temptation to respond in kind. Anger is understandable - expected, even - but we must take care not to let that anger blind us. Just as murder cannot lead to resolution, vengeance cannot lead to justice - not to mention that it would prove them right. We as humans have been given the gifts of reasoning, intellectual discussion, and understanding among and between one another, and abandoning these gifts for the trap of blind wrath makes us no better than mere animals. Do not repay evil with evil; vengeance is not ours to exact. Think, speak, and act accordingly, even when the same is not returned to you.
Mr graingy got really mad that I didn’t take an experimental drug, so he blocked me 👍🏼 words really are acts of violence to these people huh?
"Wonder what does this red button do...."
-famous last words of someone before stalling out
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Kicking Whacker: Instructions unclear. I-
World vaporizes@PPLLAANNEE For slow spins in the Kicking Fish the procedure is pretty much the same actually (rudder/aileron in the direction of the spin, elevator down) except with the engine OFF.
For fast spins, the flight controls of the Kicking Fish are all but useless, so your best bet is to drop the gear and apply a lot of throttle. This will increase the spin rate but also get the nose of the aircraft pointed above the horizon, which - combined with the Kicking Fish's rather ridiculous power-to-weight ratio - can let you slow your descent or even begin to climb vertically while still in the spin. There's really no recovering midair from a fast flat spin in the Kicking Fish, but you can slow your descent enough for a survivable landing with some practice.
Of course, the Kicking Fish is also a lot harder to spin to begin with (unless you open the canopy mid-flight, of course).
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@HuskyDynamics01 Ok cool, this was actually pretty informative
@ComradeInCommune I think you would end up putting the Pigpen into the ground
Alternatively, the procedure above still works for intentional spins (guess how I tested it).
what if i put the flat spin into a pigpen