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I seems to me that planes without fuselages and made by blocks get looked down upon I get comments asking on most of my planes why is there no fuselage blah blah. Answer, because half the stuff I do with creating my planes there is no point, why would I use something that doesn't snap together and that i have to adjust every corner. It seems to me there are to many replica jets with too many of the same generic nose cone. Surly this game is to create unique planes that standout as much as it is to create replicas When i create a gunship I think about ventilation and I like to built something then if it's awkward then try and built /incorporate it around it. I know that most of my planes average weight peaks just over 100,000lbsand I know that it's not mobile friendly but by showing what you can do on steam version perhaps people would be willing to by it.
As you can see here in my cicada MKII- The black cone on the left is a side of a ventilation shaft. All my planes have unique features that I designed my self from Bombay doors,gun turrets, having rising platforms ,deploying floats
the grill on Titus note that the engine is actually within the bonnet behind the grill
the bombay doors closed on the cicada MKII
The unique design of The Bombay doors open
Well. Blocks can be a bit hard to perfect but they're defintely just as good (possibly better) then fuselages
I do agree a bit on this, but you could actually do this exact same thing with fuselage blocks, you can even reduce overall parts, mass and drag by using fuselage blocks, and it can take less if you use fuselage blocks, for instance, my old WWII planes used reducer blocks for the fuselage so i could get a round-ish fuselage, now i use fuselage blocks to get a fuselage shape that was previousley difficult to get(yeesh i sound like someone in a skin moisturizer commercial :P), you should try using them sometime, they are must more versatile that building blocks.
They look a bit weird but for making stuff like hypnoplanes they were very nice.
@Flightsonic Actually, it had nothing to do with that. It can do that, but it behaves itself most of the time. But the game can be buggy with it's drag, and it's not just the old fuselage blocks. All the blocks in the game exhibit that property, including the adjustable fuselage block and nose cone, and is very prominent in inlets, from my experience.
@Phantion well not really, it does happen with inlets as well
@Flightsonic So I've basically just shot myself in the foot to post that on a forum like this
@NovaTopaz ah yep that's another problem with blocks, it calculates the insides of blocks sometimes
@Phantion Asymmetrical drag?
ok ok I get it, you've worn me down, fuselage is better. Instead of making another forum could you help me in understand why my plane in the making ( mumbling...made of blocks....) keeps going off to the right ? I have 4 turbo propeller engines back to back. I know there is a reverse rotation and throttle but I don't know which one is causing the problem.
Well... blocks were in the game before fuselages, and try making a 20 x 20 cube with blocks.... not gonna happen, they're ineffective and inefficient, the designs have lots of drag and lots of lag in some cases. How I see it: they added fuselages for a reason
I have to go with fuselage still. That's a nice plane but fuselages make things look snug.
I actually copied and pasted it and still got it wrong? @Seraphinium
@Phantion I have before
I'm not bias towards any designs and I know there are better ones out there then mine but still I put a lot of work/ detail into them and don't understand (cough) why not just me but other planes built of blocks that are really good don't get upvotes compared to those that are all made out of fuselage. I am trying with the fuselage look at my c-47 two other small ones @PINK
I like using fuselage, mostly because you can make more aesthetic planes with fuselage (If my planes don't look medium-okay, I won't upload it.) plus you can use it for things like buoyance, fuel, and dead weight (pesky drifting planes). I even used the buoyance part of it to make a Hero of the Hudson re-enactment!
@Phantion It is obvious we are biased towards our own designs, this is more a discussion about our personal tastes. I am not looking through your eyes. I cannot understand how a EF-105 and EF- 135 look similar. The planes are all for similar roles fighters,strike fighters, and interceptors. Although I am assuming you didn't look at any of the truck, tanks, ODs that I have made, and EBs.
@Phantion check me you'll be surprised the only similars are updates to the same plane
I just made things with wings lol
Actually, at first, I hated the fuselage block because of how inflexible they were with the attachment points. It's hard to work with an even-number block area with them BECAUSE of how the attachment points are designed, and makes conversion to the fuselage block on many of the older aircraft impossible. Of course, I do still dislike them for not having enough flexibility for my taste(it only allows a pretty limited number of different shape types, 1/3's, 1/2's, circles, and obviously various squares, and you don't get much better even using multiple pieces.), but I've come to an understanding on that, a little bit, anyway. Nudging has made placing them a lot easier as well. I've made many different aircraft with it, but it just wasn't like the old normal blocks... It also removed many forms of part clipping I loved to use, which is really a pain, and why I will still use them in a pinch(not so much anymore, as I now have XML editing access with the files). I'm hoping 1.4 brings some new blocks that will help ease that a little bit.
@Warbrine I build all kinds of planes, trucks, cars, ships, and tanks
I don't intend to go to war with the whole simple planes community I'm just raising a point
@Pink just had a quick look a few of yours look the same, no offence I sure they are faster then mine but EF-135A AND EF-136A . EF-120 AND EF 119A. EF-105A AND EF-110A ...
@PINK XD i extend from cars to space planes to rubber ducks to bathtubs
@Warbrine Same
@Phantion take a look at me I use fuselage for everything and many of my planes look different