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Super Maneuverability/ Assisted Pitch and Roll

3,136 HSAeroWerkes1  8.5 years ago

This is for all of you out there who have designed super maneuverable planes. How'd you do it lol? I made an F22 raptor that uses RCN's to help Pitch and Roll but it ended up being too uncontrollable. Any suggestions?

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    674 Kerbalkid

    I use the rotators and attach them to the elevators. This allows the plane to achieve high maneuverability and my Su-35 can even do pugachev’s cobra.

    5.9 years ago
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    @KCferrari It's up

    8.5 years ago
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    @KCferrari Gonna upload it in a minute

    8.5 years ago
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    18.8k KCferrari

    @HSAeroWerkes1 I can help If you need it

    8.5 years ago
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    @KCferrari If I uploaded it, would you mind taking a look at my crude F22 and see what I can do to improve it?

    8.5 years ago
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    18.8k KCferrari

    Supermaneuverability is NOT assisted roll and pitch. It is the ability to perform maneuvers impossible by pure aerodynamics, like Cobras or J turns. TVC for Assisted pitch is just high maneuverability, but is a component required for full supermaneuverability. For instance, the Harrier featured vectored thrust for assisted turns but was not supermaneuverable. So yea, don't misuse terms.

    For high maneuverability, you need a perfectly balanced plane that can pitch up eagerly even at very low speeds. with this, you can add thrust vectored jets that pivot up and down at about 15 degrees to assist turning, and of course, they need good leverage over the plane, so they should be at the very back and move with the elevators. For true supermaneurverability, you need a bit more. The center of mass needs to be balanced vertically with the thrust such that if the plane was pointing 90 degrees up and standstill, the thrust would not force it to flip up or down. This combined with TVC independently enabled for roll and yaw as well will enable full control when any other plane would stall. Finally, for supermaneuverability, wing loading must be high enough (75+lbs/sqft) that when pulling up hard enough, the entire plane can break free of its winged flight and drift or use the entire plane as an airbrake. For just high maneuverability, lighter wing loads are better (under 50lbs/sqft), as your goal is to turn on a regular path faster. Hope you enjoyed reading this book of a comment :P

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    28.4k JShay

    Watch your wing loading. Lower wing load will help with stability and manoeuvrability 👍

    8.5 years ago
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    @traindude48 Gonna try it on my new plane, thanks.

    8.5 years ago