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Come on peoples, it isn't called Gotha Go 229, It is Horten Ho 229

11.3k kukimuki1234  8.2 years ago

Here they are the greatest engineer of the WW2

They had many planes

Most famous is the Horten Ho 229

The Horten H.IX, RLM designation Ho 229 (or Gotha Go 229(incorrectly named)) was a German prototype fighter/bomber initially designed by Reimar and Walter Horten to be built by Gothaer Waggonfabrik late in World War II. It was the first flying wing to be powered by jet engines.[1]

The design was a response to Hermann Göring's call for light bomber designs capable of meeting the "3×1000" requirement; namely to carry 1,000 kilograms (2,200 lb) of bombs a distance of 1,000 kilometres (620 mi) with a speed of 1,000 kilometres per hour (620 mph). Only jets could provide the speed, but these were extremely fuel-hungry, so considerable effort had to be made to meet the range requirement. Based on a flying wing, the Ho 229 lacked all extraneous control surfaces to lower drag. It was the only design to come even close to the 3×1000 requirements and received Göring's approval. Its ceiling was 15,000 metres (49,000 ft).
In the early 1930s, the Horten brothers had become interested in the flying wing design as a method of improving the performance of gliders. The German government was funding glider clubs at the time because production of military and even motorized aircraft was forbidden by the Treaty of Versailles after World War I. The flying wing layout removes any "unneeded" surfaces and, in theory at least, leads to the lowest possible weight. A wing-only configuration allows for a similarly performing glider with wings that are shorter and thus sturdier, and without the added drag of the fuselage. The result was the Horten H.IV.[3]

In 1943, Reichsmarschall Göring issued a request for design proposals to produce a bomber that was capable of carrying a 1,000 kilograms (2,200 lb) load over 1,000 kilometres (620 mi) at 1,000 kilometres per hour (620 mph); the so-called "3×1000 project". Conventional German bombers could reach Allied command centers in Great Britain, but were suffering devastating losses from Allied fighters.[3] At the time, there was no way to meet these goals—the new Junkers Jumo 004B turbojets could provide the required speed, but had excessive fuel consumption.

The Hortens concluded that the low-drag flying wing design could meet all of the goals: by reducing the drag, cruise power could be lowered to the point where the range requirement could be met. They put forward their private project, the H.IX, as the basis for the bomber. The Government Air Ministry (Reichsluftfahrtministerium) approved the Horten proposal, but ordered the addition of two 30 mm cannons, as they felt the aircraft would also be useful as a fighter due to its estimated top speed being significantly higher than that of any Allied aircraft.

The H.IX was of mixed construction, with the center pod made from welded steel tubing and wing spars built from wood. The wings were made from two thin, carbon-impregnated plywood panels glued together with a charcoal and sawdust mixture. The wing had a single main spar, penetrated by the jet engine inlets, and a secondary spar used for attaching the elevons. It was designed with a 7g load factor and a 1.8× safety rating; therefore, the aircraft had a 12.6g ultimate load rating. The wing's chord/thickness ratio ranged from 15% at the root to 8% at the wingtips.[1] The aircraft utilized retractable tricycle landing gear, with the nosegear on the first two prototypes sourced from a He 177's tailwheel system, with the third prototype using an He 177A main gear wheelrim and tire on its custom-designed nosegear strutwork and wheel fork. A drogue parachute slowed the aircraft upon landing. The pilot sat on a primitive ejection seat. A special pressure suit was developed by Dräger. The aircraft was originally designed for the BMW 003 jet engine, but that engine was not quite ready, and the Junkers Jumo 004 engine was substituted.[1]

Control was achieved with elevons and spoilers. The control system included both long-span (inboard) and short-span (outboard) spoilers, with the smaller outboard spoilers activated first. This system gave a smoother and more graceful control of yaw than would a single-spoiler system.

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    @kukimuki1234 Actually B-17 was produced by Vega Aircraft Corporation. This was a subsidiary of Lockheed Company entered partnership between three company, one of them is Boeing. The purpose is to produce the Boeing B-17

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    11.3k kukimuki1234

    @Seeras i will delete this thread,but gotha go isnt correct

    THE END

    8.2 years ago
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    @Seeras Sorry Seeras, just trying to clear the whole misconception up.

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    Mod Seeras

    Please guys, end this discussion or i must close this thread.
    And by the way.
    Ho 229 and Go 229 is both correct.

    8.2 years ago
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    11.3k kukimuki1234

    @BoatyPlanes why is boeing b 17 still callled boeing b 17,but manufacturer is lockheed

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    @kukimuki1234 No. its not..... Horten and Gotha are different companies. Horten designed and made a few flying wings, Gotha manufactured them, and germans named the plane after the manufacture, not the designer. Sorry if this annoys you, just trying to clear things up.

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    11.3k kukimuki1234

    They were good nazi's

    @Gestour

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    48.2k Sauce

    lol why are you guys arguing over history?
    @MasterManufacturing just because you "think" those people weren't nazi's that doesn't mean that they weren't
    nazi's there is a whole Wikipedia article about those two individuals
    @Gestour and you could have just said "meh... whatever" instead of continuing the argument

    you know you are right... why prove to someone???

    tbh if you are right in an argument and the person who you are arguing with is just saying the differ you just need to stop because it is useless to prove anything to him...

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    87.2k Johndfg

    @MasterManufacturing @Gestour I'm gonna need both of you guys to stop being racist towards nazis

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    25.2k JacobHardy64

    Pretty easy to press the block button @kukimuki1234

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    11.3k kukimuki1234

    @BoatyPlanes BUT GOTHA IS WRONG NAME

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    @kukimuki1234 I'm sorry, but they transferred production to gotha, because horten didn't have enough production facilities. So its either the Horten IX (the designer desig), or the Gotha Go-229 (the producer desig) :(

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    11.3k kukimuki1234

    It is pretty easy to press report button

    @JacobHardy64

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    25.2k JacobHardy64

    But you don't need to make yourself look like an idiot @kukimuki1234

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    11.3k kukimuki1234

    @JacobHardy64 It is pretty anoying specialy when hortens are my favorite aircraft designers.

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    25.2k JacobHardy64

    Calm down Jesus Christ @kukimuki1234

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    11.3k kukimuki1234

    @JacobHardy64 BUT IT IS STILL CALLED BOEING B-17

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    25.2k JacobHardy64

    Should the Horten be put into production, gotha would have made some as well. Like how the B-17 was made by Boeing, but was produced by Lockheed and other manufacturers.

    8.2 years ago
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    314k Gestour

    I'm relaxed.
    I researched before I made my first comment. It's pretty clear they were Nazis, It's also obvious that Nazi is a political party, not a race.
    Thanks for stepping in though, hopefully this is over.

    @KingDeadshot

    8.2 years ago
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    314k Gestour

    First of all, I'm of german descent. So to suggest I'm being racist is just silly.
    Secondly They both were official members of the Nazi Party, not just uniformed soldiers.
    I'm sorry if I offended you, it wasn't my intention at all.

    @MasterManufacturing

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    314k Gestour

    Hey, they're wearing nazi uniforms. It's pretty clear that they were nazis. @MasterManufacturing

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    @Gestour You're just saying that they were nazis just because they are from germany, and for the last time, THEY WERE NOT NAZIS

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    314k Gestour

    Nazi isn't a race. Sorry. And they were Members of the Nazi party. @MasterManufacturing

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    @Gestour They are not nazis. Are you really being racist in SimplePlanes?

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    314k Gestour

    Who are those Nazis in the picture?
    @MasterManufacturing

    8.2 years ago
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