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What’s your feelings on this Mr. Garrison?

2,444 xGeneralFischx  5.6 years ago

Dear @Andrew Garrison,
This is rather pressing issue, so it would be very much great for you to read the whole thing. I must ask you a question. A few users on the RP community sometimes post cheap, undeveloped posts. A very small minority often bicker because they think that they have 99999999999 bombs and can kill the other and then the other says “well I have superior anti air system” HAHAHAHA, then the original guy says “Well my bombers can evade your anti-air system.” And so on. I agree with the problem that “OP Kids” is a growing problem, but it’s just that: Their just kids.

As a result of these select users of the RP community, they think that RP should go down, or go somewhere else. Some RP users or even non-RP users often speak out advocating for keeping RP on the site. The anti-RP either abuse the report button to remove these posts, or a corrupt mod who is in support of taking down RP removes the posts.(Based on what I heard, the most or one of the most recently appointed mods was one of the lead users of the anti-RP movement ) Aeromen just posted a new pro-RP post, which is his third, after the two others were taken down. It will most likely be taken down in a couple hours.

The anti-RP users often bully and harass RP users. LancasterAce is a bit of an OP kid, I admit, but he has a writing impediment, Dyslexia, which causes him to make many spelling and grammar mistakes, in addition to being a kid. The anti-RP users often harass him for tha . The anti-RP users complain about how “RP is a waste of my time” But it takes longer to write several anti-RP and harassing comments than to just move on. I’m not being directly being harassed by the anti-RP users, but I am highly defensive of my friend and comrades.

Tully even made a post that RP and comment. The comment, which is ore pro-RP reads: ”Role plays are good for the community, it allows uses to make new friends and gives them motivation to build. This is why we want to keep them running. There are a few individuals who take it to the extreme and start creating needless drama and toxicity. Basically, we aren’t going to remove the tag. We’re just going to try and keep them civilized.“

Do you think they listened? No. They’re now like “Well well majority rules.” But guess what? Majority isn’t always the just or better side. Germany, when the Nazis were the majority. Russia, when the Bolsheviks were almost everyone. Look how that turned out? In Aeromen’s home country of Brazil, two shooters shot up a school. They said they trained by playing or at least liked Free Fire, which is essentially a PUBG ripoff. The government wanted to ban violent video games, and they were the majority. But you know what happened? The minority of pro-game people won with praise. My point is the majority is not always best.

Some users believe that the RP tag should be removed, but this will only worsen the problem. It will only remove that barriers that keep RP(for the most part) In the RP section. So what is your stance Andrew Garrison? Should RP roam free, or be groomed and moderated for low quality posts? Or should RP be removed altogether? Your decision could influence how this goes, and after presenting the information before you, I trust you’ll make the right choice.
Sincerely,
xGeneralFischx

Note: I have conversed with the top 3 active “Big Three” Mods. Tully and Squirrel are in support of RP, and want it to stay as long as “OP Kids” are moderated. EternalDarkness is neutral.

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    Not gonna lie I have no idea. This should have been dropped a while ago. @exosuit

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    18.2k exosuit

    How is this still going lol

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    10.9k Rub3n213

    Lunch ze missails

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    8,265 Vercynis

    Lol 😂 @xGeneralFischx

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    And when they are faced with that, they are like “well...well.... REMOVE THE ROLEPLAY TAG! THAT TOTALLY WONT RESULT IN THE FLOODWATER OF RP BEING RELEASED BY THE FALL OF THE ROLEPLAY TAG DAM, FLOODING AND DROWNING OUT OTHER FORUM POSTS, CAUSING THE PROBLEM TO WORSEN!” @ViridiCinis

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    8,265 Vercynis

    I love it when people ask to keep RP in Discord because it does not belong in the Forums, and yet, the Forum specifically has a "RolePlay" tag!

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    Ja. On the 19XX, 20XX, and Squirrel’s server, we use dice to decide what the outcome of a battle, which is influenced by resources, numbers, allies. Etc. @Lahoski107

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    6,005 Lahoski107

    @xGeneralFischx I edited my second point, do you agree?

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    Ja @Lahoski107

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    6,005 Lahoski107

    @xGeneralFischx LancasterAce, and other noobs

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    I agree. I have asked you know who if I could help proofread, but he has either denied or ignored @Lahoski107

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    6,005 Lahoski107

    First off - In some ways, I wish Tully would never have formatted his forum post the way he did. Why?... Because It makes it sound like he is against roleplay. And because of that post, look what has happened to the roleplay community! If this situation could be resolved, that would be heaven on earth. Non-RP players, simply don't click on the RP posts. RP members, don't start a war for no reason. And please, when you make a post on roleplay, please SPELL YOUR WORDS RIGHT...
    cough cough... you know who you are.

    Second off - I think there needs to be a way to simulate the wars between two countries, basing it off their numbers, and the allies supporting them. Without one, roleplay noobs will say, WE WON THE WAR, the other noob leader: NO I DID. You see? There just needs to be a better way to simulate wars between two nations.

    Third off - Why is it so hard to spell Simplelandia? It's spelled SIMPLELANDIA

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    41.5k MrVaultech

    Oh, I definitely get users not having Discord or Reddit, but when the most vocal users of the RP don't appear to be using either, then something's probably off.
    Also, Ethernal is probably saying otherwise in the comments, considering I've only seen 2 moderators make opinions about Simplelandia.
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    I’m pointing out that majority is always good. @Brields95

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    Most of the current RP servers work well, but the problem is A. A majority of RP users don’t have discord or Reddit. In my opinion, OP kids should be delt with. Multiple mods have stated that RP is fine @MrVaultech

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    First of all @xGeneralFischx get your facts straight. Anti rp members are not bullying rp members. And don't you dare go comparing rp members to commie nazis. Yes we have a few idiots and when they do srupid things it's US who shun them.

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    4,038 YoDudeChase

    me:Just joins rp, 2 days later like 3 post about moving rp to reddit or discord. me:is not allowed on reddit or discord, :|

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    41.5k MrVaultech

    (Heres what was cut from character limit)
    Later, I tried setting up a system for nuclear weapons that would provide a game-changer; airfields could only be used for nuclear bombers if 20 miles from or within the target zone, and was not near a current frontline. Very shortly after, somebody tried to claim they dropped a nuclear bomb on Berlin, despite there being no useable runways for probably a hundred miles...? I really need to recheck those old maps at some point...

    The point I'm making is, nobody wants to use these quality-of-life improvements, and I hope not out of sheer ignorance to them. They'd significantly help out users in coordinating with each other on both sides, figuring out battles and supplies.


    Just reading this post lets me figure that this RP is well past the point of saving, qity RP players actively going and calling moderators corrupt for fricks sakes. Seriously? How are any of the Mods here corrupt? They have a job, and when some 12 year old starts spewing eavy vulgar and profane word he can think of, is it suddenly the work of a corrupt moderator to delete that comment and issue a warning?!

    At this point, the only way of saving this RP would be to end it on a good note, and let everyone walk away before Moderators and, Göring forbid, Devs get involved with this childisn nonsense.

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    41.5k MrVaultech

    I feel I need to take a stance on this "debate", considering my experience with RP.


    From my probably warped point of view, I'm starting to feel the Simplelandia RP should probably end.
    Yes, yes, I know, it sounds like terribly extreme stance from someone who isn't part of the RP, but I have over a year of experience in running a pretty large RP way back. Some ancient Alt WW2 RP that burned real fast after the 1 year mark.
    At this point in the Simplelandia RP, it has hit its peak, and is only gonna go more downhill from this point.
    As in that old WW2 RP of mine, theres always going to be a extremely vocal minority who will screw things up.
    For WW2, one guy was all it took. He started an argument with an very active member of the RP, causing the guy to quit and cause a massive rift in players.

    I had to cancel the RP then, with that incident being the major reason. Other things/reasons that led up to this were users magically pulling insanely advanced weapons and vehicles into the RP at absurd levels, somehow knowing of secrets from countries that even citizens of the actual countries didn't know about, and the absolute child-like nature of a small number of users when things didn't go their way! I even had one guy demand I restart the RP because his faction was losing (and the reason they were losing to begin with was because nobody did anything)!

    A final similarity I've noticed between the two RP's is a (probably not well) observed number of users ignoring others attempts to help improve the RP.
    Weeks back, I saw a post made by Squirrel (I believe) where he went and made a whole Discord server for the Simplelandia RP, but considering how many major RP posts continued to be made on-site, I have a feeling it was ignored.
    Another was a decently active Simplelandia user bringing up the idea of inputting [Roleplay] or something along those lines in titles of Simplelandia RP posts, so other non-RP users wouldn't get confused on obviously vague or click-baity titles for the RP. Buuuuuuut obviously next to nobody did such a thing.
    Things like this happened in my Alt WW2 RP. Early on, I had made seperate Kik chats for the major factions, Axis and Allies. While I didn't oversee the Allied chat personally, I had a strong feeling nobody used it all too much when compared to the Axis chat.
    (Crap, character limit)

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    @xGeneralFischx Regardless, I thought it was interesting that you said that you weren't comparing Anti-RP people to Nazi's even though you said that in a previous comment, joke or not

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    I agree that it sometimes get wak, but This is over. @Awsomur

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    40.2k Awsomur

    ...
    @xGeneralFischx

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    40.2k Awsomur

    That was the best comment I’ve ever read

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    Mhm. Would be a shame if it was a joke @BlackhattAircraft

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    @xGeneralFischx Yes I do, and I don't agree with that statement either

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