@kikasshes actually, they could have used propellers on motors. That's another unused method.

@LjSpike Yeah, but it's a motor method without any vectoring

@kikasshes it's still just a motor method though, but alternative control. If we're talking like that I could go full motor-control hybrid and give you a flapperon, or a rudderon. No-control is just systems to replace the control surfaces.

Well it's basically a very simplified way of controlling an airplane. Yaw and roll are controlled with roll input and throttle and pitch is controlled with the throttle. You increase the throttle to pitch up decrease the throttle to pitch down. (trimmed to pitch up at full throttle) For turning the plane it uses yaw. (dihedral wings make the plane roll when yawing) Either this is setup with a propeller and a rudder, or it is setup with two motors with yaw mixing. (=no control surfaces) I made a plane called "simple plane". (https://www.simpleplanes.com/a/jPLwjb/Simple-plane-challenge) This plane uses three motors because you can't mix controls in simpleplanes. But I'm going to make a new one because in the beta you could kind of mix controls by having one input for throttle and another one for propeller pitch. (This method was used in my octocopter)

@kikasshes I have not.

@LjSpike Have you ever heard of 2 channel RC planes?

@kikasshes what was that method?

Actually there is one more method that wasn't used.

Nope they don't @A5mod3us

Do air brakes count as control surfaces?

@WaterAirLand @Battlebulge @Stingray @AgentObsidian @blueangelproduction @PlanesOfOld @shmexympilot AND THE WINNER IS, @WATERAIRLAND AND HIS LOVELY STEELBEATER -- also an FYI, the only method I didn't see used was using air brakes to turn and pitch. They work quite well.

Either will do.

Does it have to be on the reach the North runway or island??@LjSpike

@AgentObsidian read the description

contol?

I'm gonna make something FANCY

I'm in

@LjSpike I I've submitted 2 entries that have you cockpit attached. I don't need points, so consider them gifts, and keep building and enjoying SP.

@BattleBulge it does need to fly. @Stingray Well, it's primarily targeting rotor blocks, but eliminating rotors there's still two big ways.

I see entries using rotor blocks, therefor I'll enter a couple fun entries, with your cockpit and potential credits. This is for fun, I not need points......

"No Control" seems it would eliminate Rotors (gyro copters) any wing surface even totally flat surfaces. Without clarification, gonna skip this one.

Does it have to fly??

ill enter an autogyro

@waterairland download this plane and save it. Then either build a new plane in the save OR make the old plane a subassembly and move it across.

@Karlosdarkness @WaterAirLand @Unknownvectors can you put them as remixes of this post. It makes comparing all the results easier. I forgot to say that in the post.