@GuardianAerospace Bro, I suddenly discovered a problem. Why do we have to argue? The meaning of what I said is "Although the MiG-29 fighter jet is very poor, comparing it to this plane is insulting MiG-29." Do you understand it as something else?

@JSTQ nah I’m good. I don’t wanna start a conflict Lol

@Christiant2 Sorry, I didn't notice it was you…

@GuardianAerospace It seems that the deeper aspect is our different views on war. This involves too much, and may even involve political issues, making further arguments meaningless. That's end. If you want to say anything more, just say it

@GuardianAerospace Although I also support stopping arguments, I must point out one thing: the threat of nuclear weapons cannot change the course of the Korean War.
I admit that you have a lot of knowledge about weapons, which is great, but perhaps you should have some basic military knowledge.
The victory of the Gulf War was mainly due to the revolutionary combat philosophy and military system demonstrated by the US military, which shocked the world and also made China fearful. Then it took China 20 years to catch up.

@GuardianAerospace 20 to 30 years in advance, this statement is very correct during the Gulf War. In 2024, I think you may not have woken up. Where did you see this history class again?

@JSTQ srry abt that, didn’t see ur next comment Lol. I just realized that too and i agree that we should stop arguing to prevent any future disagreements. I never stated that the M1A1 was indestructible, its getting destroyed either way and so is everything else. I agree that the Yamato is a great example of this. But by the time the Yamato was sunk, the Japanese navy had lost a lot of experienced sailors and pilots. But when you take something like an F22 into the perspective, it does make a mark.

@GuardianAerospace I don't think so. In 2016, China didn't lose in the South China Sea electronic warfare

@GuardianAerospace You should get rid of simply comparing weapons and equipment to judge the direction of war. This is not a numerical game, otherwise the US military wouldn't have to withdraw from Afghanistan.

@JSTQ im saying that they use soviet tech. If not, they have the same level of tech as the soviets. The fact that the US now is like 20-30 years more advanced and superior explains a lot more too.

@GuardianAerospace Firstly, I agree to stop arguing. I noticed that you are actually simply comparing weapons and equipment, while I am talking about war. In fact, we cannot reach a consensus. But I have to point out one thing: the M1A1 was destroyed a few days ago, and even if these tanks were really powerful, they wouldn't have much impact on the battlefield. If you think a weapon can have a significant impact on the battlefield, it is recommended to refer to the battleship Yamato

@GuardianAerospace How could Russia possibly have the Soviet military system? You're not joking, are you?

@JSTQ What? I just said they captured a ww2 German tank

@JSTQ Lol that’s funny to hear

@JSTQ there is no denying that the soviet Air Force has no real chance against the US Air Force. I am aware that they were to support the army, however, tell me if any captured soviet aircraft have been evaluated to perform any chance in combat against American aircraft. Their performance in Ukraine says it all. And what’s that about supporting the army? Doesn’t look like its working well

@Christiant2 I didn't say that Russia is strong. Bombs and drones have become high-tech in the Russian Ukrainian battlefield

@JSTQ ? Wdym by that? Show me your knowledge on he “spectacular and great” Russian and soviet tech is? Yes Ukraine has essentially the same aircraft, but have you noted the immense power just a platoon of German or American tanks can do in Ukraine is? The fact you think that the United States’s Air Force has no actual chance against an Air Force of planes that have been barely maintained, protected with minimal armoring or defense, and more is a reality is just odd for me to come across. And if you think I have learned this through playing games, those “games” are actually history classes, documentaries, research, evaluation, comparison and more. Like I stated before, I was simply comparing all the modern Russian and Soviet aircraft to each other and saying how they all look the same and perform the same. There’s no need for this argument if we both just stop

@GuardianAerospace The mission of the MiG-29 during the Cold War was to take off and fight from field airports and occupied airports in Western Europe, so there was no need to worry about a short range. Moreover, due to the relatively small scope of operations, low cost, and high cost-effectiveness, it is difficult to seize air superiority from a group of MiG-29s. The next step was for the Soviet army to advance, with MiG-29 transitioning to the newly occupied Western European airport and repeating it until it completely occupied Western Europe.

@GuardianAerospace Don't judge the Soviet Air Force based on the mindset of the US Air Force, but the Russian Air Force is allowed

@GuardianAerospace Firstly, you have a fundamental misunderstanding of the Soviet Air Force. As the second to last Soviet service, the Soviet Air Force's mission was basically to provide escort for the army, ensuring air superiority at a certain distance under the command of the army's radar. As a war consumable, it was completely qualified. If you treat it as a fighter jet for aerial combat, of course not. The MiG-29, as a specific product, can only play its value under the military system of the Soviet Union, and even Russia cannot play its role. So, aside from the issues of range and avionics, I think if it's a competition for maneuverability, are you sure you want to compete with the MiG 29, which doesn't have weight issues? Moreover, in reality, the MiG 29 departing from a field airport will not be 1vs1 compared to you. The cost performance ratio is what war consumables are all about. So, the Mig-29 was actually more popular in the Soviet Air Force than the Su-27

@GuardianAerospace …Did you learn about it through playing games? When can war be discussed outside of the military system?

@GuardianAerospace @JSTQ Pic : The captured Russian Panzer vl

@JSTQ also the coke bottle stuff might not be real, but have you seen footage of Ukraine capturing a Russian drone and finding the fuel tank was like 2 Dasani water bottles or something? They also found that all the electronics were from American and American allied Asian countries like Japan and S. Korea.

@JSTQ this is basically how the air defense forces worked. USSR makes advanced aircraft. US makes an aircraft more advanced. US finds out USSR’s plane is basically a piece of scrap metal with no real chance in combat with American planes. US also realizes they have made a plane decades more advanced and superior to the Soviet one. MiG-29s do look good, I’ll give you that. But they have no real possibility of beating an American plane unless it’s greatly outnumbered or outflanked. MiG29 is good, but I just don’t reallly like it. That’s all. Also I was saying how all modern Russian and Soviet fighters are basically like that and look almost the exact same.

@GuardianAerospace I don't allow you to insult Mig 29 like this, it's just too much