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AG1 for lights
AG2 to open bomb bay
AG3,4 to drop the bombs
AG6 for parachute
AG7 to eject the pilots
Specifications
General Characteristics
- Predecessor B-52
- Successors 1 airplane(s)
- Created On Windows
- Wingspan 180.1ft (54.9m)
- Length 164.0ft (50.0m)
- Height 41.3ft (12.6m)
- Empty Weight 192,666lbs (87,392kg)
- Loaded Weight 446,601lbs (202,575kg)
Performance
- Power/Weight Ratio 1.509
- Wing Loading 52.2lbs/ft2 (255.0kg/m2)
- Wing Area 8,551.0ft2 (794.4m2)
- Drag Points 17633
Parts
- Number of Parts 1341
- Control Surfaces 5
- Performance Cost 5,713
Hey the engines aren’t powerful enough for it to fly could you fix that maybe?
@realSavageMan I.. don’t really know
Also it turns out I was being dumb and it was actually my simple planes so… yeah
Why are you commenting under an unlisted post?? @fynlol
What’s wrong with the landing gear?
I posted a B-52 demonstrator which wheelbarrows on takeoff and flies level with the nose low. You have to angle both the main wings and horizontal stabilizer, about 5 degrees angled on both should do it. I tagged you on an unlisted.
@SavageMan the Buff has always bombed by radar...soooo...when I think about it, I envision a crosshairs that stands out against a black or green radar screen background with only the bright green target indicator being seen. You don’t have to have a visual bombsight at all, just have a system that adjusts the crosshairs based on speed and altitude and when the crosshairs goes over the “target” you just pickle the bombs. What sucks though, is you wouldn’t be able to bomb something using terrain features because there’s no radar “picture” in SP.
One more question. What would you recommend me to do for the bombsight. @ChiChiWerx
Honestly I can’t get the pitching down feature... I can make it nose heavy tho but it cannot increase altitude with the nose slightly down. It’s hard indeed
@ChiChiWerx
Wow... okay that’s REALLY helpful! Thanks. I know that the pitching down characteristic is hard to replicate but I’ll try
@ChiChiWerx
Ok, here are my inputs:
First, Flying Characteristics:
1. Your build with a distinctly nose up attitude, around 5 degrees nose up in level flight at max IAS, around 350 KIAS down low. IRL, the BUFF has a distinctly nose down flying attitude. You can see it on takeoff and you can see it in level flight. I recommend you try and replicate this as everyone notices it, pilots and non-pilots alike. I’d start by angling the wings and horizontal stab upward a few degrees.
2. Pitch authority. If you look at that video, you’ll see the pitch up to around 60 degrees nose high takes around 10 seconds, or about six degrees per second. Your build manages about half of that. Recommend you increase the pitch authority to match the RL pitch rate.
3. Roll rate is in the ballpark, but could be increased by about 25%.
4. I’ve found the best way to replicate RL performance characteristics in SP is to match numbers. You have a great start with the weight and fuel quantity. Your published thrust:weight ratio is way too high, but I believe you detuned the engines as it decelerates at nose high attitudes. This is all good. Your wing area,
though is greater than the RL jet, your main wings are 5,000+ sq ft. That’s not terribly excessive, but it is around 25% more than the RL jet and, thus, your stall speed, 120 KIAS clean with full gas (99%), is a little lower than the RL jet, which is probably well over 150 KIAS same configuration. I would also recommend you try out the semi-symmetric or cambered airfoils to see if that helps get this closer to the RL flying characteristics, including the nose-low flying attitude.
5. Behavior with flap extension is a HUGE pitch up...IRL, the nose typically pitches slightly down as the flaps increase lift and drag for the same conditions. Hard to do in SP. However, I would decrease the pitch up to something a little less dramatic.
Details:
1. Can’t launch the Cleavers above 300 KIAS. They end up flying formation with the jet or colliding with it. Big problem.
2. Not sure why you chose to use lights for the sensor windows. Those are low light/IR sensors IRL.
3. Tires seem a bit small.
4. No wing flex? The Buff’s wing flexes upwards a lot. I’m pretty sure you know how to do this, recommend you do the same here.
I could go on for days on this because there are a million variations on what you could do
I'll see what I can do. Thx! @WolfSpark
@SavageMan so. Everything is actually perfect, but the bombs. Deploying with AG3 didn’t work for me, they hit the back of the Bombay and exploded. The drag is the deadly factor. If it was set a bit lower I think that would eliminate some of the issue.
That’s all I notice at the second. I’ll look at some more tomorrow. I had limited time tonight
@SavageMan Ye I will let you know on some feedback
@WolfSpark
Thanks for your contribution, wanna test it?
Horrible story... appreciate it tho
Okay cool, but I still don’t know if anything can be inferred about my plane’s aerodynamics
@ChiChiWerx
Ok, this one then. While I’m flying this around, take a look at this video: Bud Holland B-52. When Holland crashed his B-52, Czar 52, I was in pilot training. That crash was a huge mess for the USAF because Wing leadership didn’t have the guts to ground him as he was the Chief of Stan/Eval despite the history of rule-breaking flybys. Then he crashed and took 3 others with him and nearly wiped out the survival school building. The tape shows some of the dangerous things he had done in the jet. During the Yakima Range flyby, they measured later and he passed over that ridge by 15 feet. His copilot was hauling back on the yoke while ‘ol Bud was laughing. Anyway, the 325th Bomb Squadron commander, Lt Col Mark McGeehan, who was subordinate to both the spineless Wing Commander and the DCO, knew Holland was dangerous and refused to let his guys ever fly with him—only he would fly with Holland—and was in the jet when it crashed during that air show practice. If you zoom in on the jet as it crashes, you can see his ejection seat hatch leaving the jet as it plows into the ground. The ejection sequence was terminated by the impact. His wife and two sons were watching when the jet crashed. The point of the video isn’t to celebrate Holland’s antics, but it’s a good example of the max roll and pitch rates of the B-52. Also thought you might also appreciate the story. In case you want to read the entire story: A Failure of Leadership.
@Grogu @ChiChiWerx