You making scary plane not gonna lie...

@Shadowed You can't do it in SP. I run my scripts outside the game to generate the XML for the shapes I want, then I open those XML files in SP like a regular build.

@Tully2001 The only thing I want from you, all your mod friends, and anyone else who thinks like you, is to not hear from you again :)

@Squirrel Whatever you say :)

@SledDriver also there's at least 4 (from a brief search, courtesy of Tully) other active users on the site that use it as an easy way of spacing paragraphs. Even other moderators. But I guess they're also me too.

@Squirrel Whatever you say :)

@SledDriver yes it is. However, one could assume that you're implying the opposite. So to address any doubts you may have:
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For a start when I debate people, I debate. I don't lose sight of the objective and I don't deviate from the line that leads to it unless the opposition throws a curve ball that needs to be addressed.
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And I certainly don't resort to direct insults. To an observer, your credibility is lost the moment you resort to insults, regardless of how good your point is because it shows your morals have weak points. And if your morals are questionable then it's possible that the intentions of your argument are too.
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For this very reason, I don't debate to change the mind of the person I'm debating. I debate to change the mind of an observer that's on the wall, spectating the argument. That way I'm morally in the clear, providing I also put forward a good argument.
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Besides, Andrew would likely revoke my status as a moderator if I was to engage in such behaviour on the site. And I'd likely lose some respect from the moderators.

@Squirrel What I find interesting is that there's only one other person I've ever come across who uses periods to separate paragraphs, and that's "spaceyoter".

I'm sure that's strictly a coincidence :)

@SledDriver @spaceyoter it would seem that there's beef between you two. While I'm not one for personally discouraging debating on the site, it does get a bit much when both parties resort to insulting each other.
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Whether it's insinuating one takes "reading comprehension classes" or calling people a "lazy sloth", it objectively comes under the category for being unfriendly to one another and perhaps borderline bullying. This obviously isn't tolerated on the site.
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Normally I'd issue a strike for such behaviour, but since this seems to have regressed from a normal (and presumably well intentioned) debate, it's a matter of interpretation on who the culprit is in this scenario. So I'll let you both off the hook on this occasion. However, please bear in mind, myself or the other mods may not be so lenient in the future.
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Also @SledDriver if you're going to remove comments on your posts, I highly advise you to delete your responses to your comments in future as it leaves little to interpretation and some might say it even defeats the point of deleting them, especially when you're making direct quotes to them. As a result, you may find it negatively impacts how other players see you. Whether you personally care about that or not is up to you, but it makes our jobs as moderators easier when potential for hate towards other players is kept to a minimum.

@Jetspeed1001 Well, the great thing about SimplePlanes is that you can always add your own decals/stripes to a build if you want. But don't worry, I've got some builds planned that will use color a bit more.

nice. though how come you barely use many bright colors? even a few make it stand out more. like your older builds have spots of brighter colors rather than only blacks, and grays. just saying it can get tiring looking at the same colors on every build

@Looney

I can't understand attacking for how its made rather than the end result.

Is my phone not a marvelous engineering masterpiece because it wasn't made in tedious ways? Of course, its a phone if it was built by hand or not. But the non-hand made phone is more accurately assembled.

People need to accept that this is not about how it is built but how it turns out.

That's right, Darth.

Thank you dude and I'm glad we're on good terms with each other. And yes I totally agree with you. The building method doesn't really matter at all. If the end result is a good, quality build, then thats all that matters. Thank you.@SledDriver

@Hedero No need to apologise. Being wrong about something isn't an offence. Just the fact that you listened to a reasoned argument and changed your position sets you apart from most people -- good on you.

But I'd like to emphasize that the build method shouldn't matter at all when judging the quality of a build. Only the end result counts.

Ya I really should've learned a bit more about what it takes to script or mod or whatever before I started talking about how building with just your hands takes more skill. So I'm sorry about that.@SledDriver

Yea I actually agree. That is true writing scripts takes alot of skill. Heck, I don't even know where to start when it comes to that kind of thing. And yes manual labor in the default designer of Simple Planes really only takes alot of time. But scripting, like you said, really takes alot of intellectual problem-solving. So in the long run of things your way is more difficult and requires more brainpower and skill. So thanks for clearing that up for me. I never really thought of it that way.@SledDriver

@Hedero

I would think that building an advanced shape with nothing but the designer is alot more difficult than building it with scripts?

More difficult in terms of amount of labor, yes. But difficulty for its own sake is not something to be admired. There needs to be a point to the difficulty. What about the difficulty of writing my scripts? Anyone can manually create builds like mine, but so far, no one other than me has been able to do what I do with scripts. So which method is more "difficult"?

Anyhow, "how difficult something was to make" is never a factor in how good the end result is.

But it sounded a little like you were saying handmaking such a complex creation with just your hands doesn't take much skill.

Yes, that's exactly what I'm saying. And I was the first to do it, so I can say that with some authority. All it takes is a whole lot of time.

Once again I'm not trying to compare you to Being.

I'm not even slightly concerned with who compares me to whom, or what their verdict is. I know better than anyone else who I am and where I stand on the spectrum of humanity. And if someone's judgment is so astonishingly poor that they think manual labor is superior to intellectual problem-solving, their opinion matters less than nothing to me.

I am by no means a scripter or a modder. So I don't know how to do it or how hard it is or anything. But I would think that building an advanced shape with nothing but the designer is alot more difficult than building it with scripts? And I'm not trying to say that Being as way better than you for not using mods or scripts. Everyone has a style of building. But it sounded a little like you were saying handmaking such a complex creation with just your hands doesn't take much skill. Once again I'm not trying to compare you to Being. Just trying to figure this out.@SledDriver

@Hedero Mimicking something I did over two years ago, and provided instructions for, is "serious competition"? You'll excuse me for yawning.

Other than that, anyone who thinks that not using scripts/mods is somehow better than using them is not someone I have time for.

Hey Sled driver! Being is giving you some serious competition! Go check out his work. He uses no scripting or mods!@SledDriver

@SledDriver np

@AZAMGAMING Sorry, I just don't do the whole tagging thing.

hey @SledDriver can u tag me when u post your stuff

@AZAMGAMING Well, when I invented this building style over two years ago, I was doing it by hand. But it soon occurred to me "this is really dumb, there has to be a better way." So I invented one -- using scripts to let me generate the shapes externally (outside the game).

@SledDriver hey....how do you make these smooth shapes?