@TwinStarIndustries my sentiment exactly, couldn't have put it better myself

@hypnotoad I think the mods thing upsets some people and rightly so because they dont have that part persay.. i think the recent publication of many modded parts should help that angle... I think that moded parts are great for style and yes to get your vehical to do something a little extra... and in a sand box world thats fine.... i think if and when multiplayer comes out the need to outlaw or make modders play separately... but yeah in general im all for it :)

@TwinStarIndustries not at all mate, seriously it's all good, and it's no secret. Yea it's weird how mirroring sometimes causes that, for no good reason. Still this is excellent. And I am all in favor of modes, but as you say, there is always room to work without them, I try and so that from time to time to keep me thinking. Usually for me it's a challenge to keep my planes in one piece and still holding on to the control surfaces whilst going at 2000mph, as you know my planes are not designed for huge structural strength so I like the challenge that poses, have had to really consider my designs and work in methods of rigid control. All that said I have a great deal of admiration for anyone that can make a fast stable reliable plane e with no mods, was very challenging without some of the regulars I use...... Crikey, what a rant. Sorry dude. Lol. Have a good one

@hypnotoad Thanks.. yes close as i can figure it has something to do with a mirroring glitch that only happens sometimes actually.. but i think considering the Wild shapes you use you will understand that mirroring makes life much better. lol I hope you dont take offense to me mentioning your engine modding.. i too use some mods here and there but i also have a performance vehicles without mods.like this one.

Lovely plane sir. Great look. I mirrored the plane and it still had a roll? How weird. It's not an issue though, this is great. Well done

@ABC123 thank you for rating :)