@sakkijarven You have misunderstood on what i have said. Yes, the F-35 is actually one of the greatest and successful fighter and is very capable, but im not saying the J-20 or the J-35 is bad, i think both of them equally match the F-35. I said that most countries will use the design from lockheed or northrop for their own stealth fighters.

@TheCommentaryGuy 这么自恋的嘛牢弟？你们米国的F35真的有这么香嘛？

@TheCommentaryGuy 话我已经说的很清楚了，我也不想再多说什么了，另外，哥们，我本科是学飞行器设计与工程的

@Faust1001??????? you are not making any senses, all 5th gen fighters will have their similarities because they use some of the designs of american 5th gen fighters, and for the leaks, yes there was a breach in the security which a chinese hacker stole files of the F-35

@TheCommentaryGuy 哦，兄弟，什么叫以美国五代机设计为基础？你们美国人泄露给我们什么五代机技术了吗？

@Faust1001 im not saying they are 100% the same, im saying that they use american 5th gen design as a basis, this is not a new thing, aircraft manufacturing companies has used designs from other aircraft manufacturing, its called inspiration, not copying.

@TheCommentaryGuy 在强调制信息权的当下，不妨了解一下航电这些东西好吗？哥们，多了解飞控这些东西再想想这些机子是否"一模一样"，oK？

@TheCommentaryGuy "看起来和F22一模一样"
哥们，少看点土耳其、韩国、日本的半吊子五代机好吗
必须要说的是，F22首飞较早，而五代机的隐身要求会使五代机在外形设计上有所趋同，但这不叫"一模一样"，更别说气动布局完全不同了

@TheCommentaryGuy 所以你认为的设计就是外形？枭龙先用dsi进气道，那你能说F35是对枭龙外形的模仿？

@Faust1001 i am studying engineering and i have done some research is the F-22 or F-35 design will be used as a basis for a 5th gen fighter because the designs are successful ones

@leoliketrain061228 那确实，F35的潜水一点学不来( ￣▽￣)σ

@TheCommentaryGuy 哥们，学过空气动力学吗？学过飞行器设计吗？你认为所谓的设计都是你眼睛看出来的？你怎么不说歼20和F22像？

@TheCommentaryGuy dude again I’m not talking about the vtol (anyways the vtol would get it in the air faster) and possibly take out the target faster so in that case vtol would be useful, also for naval combat, (your not ganna see a naval F-22)

@Bilderman doubt that base on your last reply because you said "to catch up and be able to have a stand in a dogfight (I mean F-22 vs F-4) we can assume that the better plane will win the dogfight vtol."
if you did make papers about the F-22 then you wouldnr make such grammatical errors, and no one dogfights in VTOL.

@TheCommentaryGuy yes it does becuase I have been taught by a pilot about design

@Bilderman uh huh? that doesnt mean anything though

I know what I’m talking about

@TheCommentaryGuy yeah I do, I have been under an F-22 written papers on it. I have also written papers of 5 gen jets

@whrstudio so where is ur upvote :D

good！

now THIS folks is how you make A FRICKING STEALTH FIGHTER!

@Bilderman you really do not know what classifies as 5th gen

@TheCommentaryGuy ok so the USA has its allies and China is not one of them. Also vtol is not needed but what I was saying is that most modern planes (to be 5 gen.) to catch up and be able to have a stand in a dogfight (I mean F-22 vs F-4) we can assume that the better plane will win the dogfight vtol, stealth or having supermanuverability in a battle would give the plane better chances.