@pura be confident, you'll do great, and if anything else it is all for fun. Just so you know TD1 was wondering by a newcomer. Before post, test out your design in mock dogfights, look for it's flaws and perfect it.
@0n33 yes you can, as long as it doesn't pass the HP/Weight ratio you should be good. I figured everyone wanted a little more flexibility with the XML.
@BlackhattAircraft You have lots of time. Postings end for this competition June 15th. I commented on the last post but yeah, we're giving everyone more time to fine tune and add details.
@zealt it's all good, we have plenty of time. Mini guns are allowed, you just can't shrink them. Things to take into consideration with mini guns is spin up time and added weight.
@ChiyomiAnzai Yes and no, believe it or not, on YouTube, a lot of people really liked prop planes. I had some people who wanted jets (hope we didn't scare them away last time around), but we definitely have more prop plane builders. Which is odd since I don't see as many prop plane builds on the jetstreams. TDI builds were great so it's going to be interesting to see what the community can put out with 5 weeks of build Time and 100 extra parts.
@Lahoski107 unfortunately no, the theme to the whole challenge is engineering, not necessarily can you make a cool looking fighter jets or prop plane. You essentially have to balance out different factors like weight, fuel consumption, how heavy of a load can your plane carry, and can your plane out fly another craft with all these factors. Now this time around I'm giving everyone a little more flexibility. You can add power to your engines via XML. Prop planes can have an HP/Weight Ratio not to exceed .5, and Jets will have a Power/Ratio not to exceed 1. So you'll have more freedom with XML for the sake of building and cosmetics, and not so much overpowering, and in the end it's fair.
@ArcturusAerospace yes Guardian missiles on this one. If we used interceptors it'd deplete the chaff immediately with a volley. That way we can give the AI a chance to fight.
@Lahoski107 don't worry, that's why we have a prop plan challenge too. Also the
"6 of each type, so 12 total" I think was for the initial post. I think here I just limited it to guardian missles.
@BdidiCorps next tournament will be both, jets and props. We're running two at the same time. Don't worry @AtlasSP jets will end of May, and Props will be mid June so they won't be at the same time. Everyone wants both so we'll stagger them out for the community. And that way the Prop veterans can get more time to build.
Alright everyone, so here's the final proposal. We'll be running two Challenges first will be the 300 Part Fighter Jet Throw Down which will end on the last day of May, and the 300 Part Prop Shoot Out which will end on the second week of June.
@ChiyomiAnzai @ArcturusAerospace, alright, since you and a lot of other players want to have more prop plane battles, I'll run a second Challenge specifically for prop planes. That way everyone can get out these creative ideas and everyone can get a chance to build their planes. This is a competition, so we want to make sure we are keeping planes organized by class.
@BdidiCorps it depends. If it's for cosmetics then yes. No XML modding that'll make your weapons more powerful. For example modding out the fire rate or spread of the shot can make it do way more damage at different ranges. In cases like that no, but if you want to make your bullets green yes.
@TheFantasticTyphoon yes it can, if you have an awesome design already, you can use it. You can only submit one entry, so if anything else test it and just make sure its within competition rules.
@Mickk you did a good job, as I said, I made this competition based on performance, and engineering, not necessarily how many parts you can stick on a 3D model. You showed your skill as an engineer and and innovator of design. Keep it up, awesome job, and we can't wait to see you in the next one.
@TheFantasticTyphoon I'm thinking end of May for this one, more time will be needed, you guys will need to test a little more. Your dealing with much faster planes and your balancing out different factors for your strategy.
Finally, and it was very close, you all made excellent designs, but @Mickk and the Warrior is the last best of show. It was a winner in dogfights and it's radical wing design, consistent body design, and that it flies so well with such a different take on engineering, made it stand out.
@AWESOMENESS360 if fought to the very last engine. It was a close fight, and with the guns being so close to each other made it very effective once it got a clear shot on an opponent. Probably one of the best dogfights I've seen in a while.
Next best of show will go to @LegnaK for a truly clean design on the JRS-0.2K Gavran Basic build, the decal work was really impressive for being 200 parts.
Hey Guys, thanks for making this all possible. I'm going to realease a video sometime later on today closing out our very first Thunderdome and highliting some of the builds. I'll start a new post on what we should do next. Let me know what series works best for you guys. Fighter Jets would be cool but if anyone wants to voice their ideas please let us know. Other than that a special thanks to @AtlasSP, who made this challenge literally come to life.
@CptJacobson a little present for the CVAF, not yet ready for mobile devices, but think of it as an upgrade to the Drake. Your free to use it and customize it to your needs. The Bully is still in production, but something in the meantime.
@0n33 now I remember this one, this one was the one that was a little crazy with the AI. Well I checked it out, @AtlasSP, this one is good for the competition.
I'll go through the videos and the comments. I know some of us couldn't make a successor to the challenge which is okay, just makes it a little trickier to track.
@Syabil well round two hasn't started yet, and we have two planes who still need to fly, so I'm pretty sure we can put up another match. So @Syabil, and @plane918273645. Give us the link to your planes, that way we don't miss them, also if anyone who's fighter did not fly, let us know. We are juggling quite a bit of entries, but we definitely don't want to miss you guys.
@0n33 we'll definitely have more in the future. I put up a post that'll work like a guide so anyone can start one. If anything else we can maybe start one on the last week of May. We'll probably do fighter jets this time around though I'll put up a post first to see what everyone is down for. I know there's an OP challenge being ran right now which is similar oncase you want to do something in the meantime.
Fuselage: 2 Good ol' barrel body, like the Hellcat, I'd recommend having a little more transition for the cockpit.
Wings: 4 It's so unique, performance aside it looks really cool
Design: 3 Like what you did with the guns, and you did good wrapping the wings, making one end thicker than the other is an easily missed detail, but you definitely nailed it on this one.
Decals: 2 They look good, details got a little crazy around the tail, but I do see that they are there. Of course I can tell this thing is built for hunting which is just fine.
Total: 11
Can't say I can imagine this plane flying in real life, but I definitely would want to. I looks like a heavy interceptor, which is perfect for the role it was built for. My recommendation is outside the competition I'd make a revised version. This thing is kind of crazy looking, but it's a good crazy.
Hey guys, just posted a link to a quick overview of how a Thunder Dome works in case anyone wants to host another one in the future. The video function isn't working but it goes over the rules is pretty good detail. Also, great @AtlasSP, good stuff on those videos. I'm working on judging the build and I might do a bit on the top three too. Sorry if I'm not very good at linking videos.
@ArcturusAerospace yes you can, but be sure to give them credit.
@pura be confident, you'll do great, and if anything else it is all for fun. Just so you know TD1 was wondering by a newcomer. Before post, test out your design in mock dogfights, look for it's flaws and perfect it.
@0n33 yes you can, as long as it doesn't pass the HP/Weight ratio you should be good. I figured everyone wanted a little more flexibility with the XML.
@BlackhattAircraft You have lots of time. Postings end for this competition June 15th. I commented on the last post but yeah, we're giving everyone more time to fine tune and add details.
@BlackhattAircraft you have plenty of time, the competition posting ends June 1st so everyone has more time to fine tune.
@zealt it's all good, we have plenty of time. Mini guns are allowed, you just can't shrink them. Things to take into consideration with mini guns is spin up time and added weight.
It's cool I'll make sure this one gets in, awesome flying wing too by the way.
+1@ArcturusAerospace yes you can, cosmetic XML is okay. Especially with a 300 part limit you guys are free to get as creative as you want.
@ChiyomiAnzai Yes and no, believe it or not, on YouTube, a lot of people really liked prop planes. I had some people who wanted jets (hope we didn't scare them away last time around), but we definitely have more prop plane builders. Which is odd since I don't see as many prop plane builds on the jetstreams. TDI builds were great so it's going to be interesting to see what the community can put out with 5 weeks of build Time and 100 extra parts.
+1@Ja1Bonza1, Prop plane competition is up.
Hey Guys TDII and TDIII are up
@Lahoski107 unfortunately no, the theme to the whole challenge is engineering, not necessarily can you make a cool looking fighter jets or prop plane. You essentially have to balance out different factors like weight, fuel consumption, how heavy of a load can your plane carry, and can your plane out fly another craft with all these factors. Now this time around I'm giving everyone a little more flexibility. You can add power to your engines via XML. Prop planes can have an HP/Weight Ratio not to exceed .5, and Jets will have a Power/Ratio not to exceed 1. So you'll have more freedom with XML for the sake of building and cosmetics, and not so much overpowering, and in the end it's fair.
@ArcturusAerospace yes Guardian missiles on this one. If we used interceptors it'd deplete the chaff immediately with a volley. That way we can give the AI a chance to fight.
@Lahoski107 don't worry, that's why we have a prop plan challenge too. Also the
"6 of each type, so 12 total" I think was for the initial post. I think here I just limited it to guardian missles.
Okay guys, back by demand. Everyone was pretty responsible with the XML last time so I can safely say we can keep things fair and fun.
Prop TD is up, here's the link. This one is for Prop Fighters, more XML this time around, so you guys have way more flexibility
Thunder Dome III: 300 Prop Shoot Out
https://www.simpleplanes.com/a/5ow3nk/Thunderdome-III-300-Part-Prop-Shot-Out
@LegnaK, @BdidiCorps, @AWESOMENESS360, @Mickk
Alright, The next TD is up, here's the link. This one is for fighter jets, don't worry props will their own too.
Thunder Dome II: 300 Jet Throw Down
https://www.simpleplanes.com/a/h51HMJ/Thunderdome-II-300-Part-Jet-Throw-Down
It'll be released later on today. Once I have a challenge open I'll send you the link.
I'm releasing the next tournaments later on today, want to give everyone a chance to bring up recommendations before I lay down the set guidelines.
@BdidiCorps next tournament will be both, jets and props. We're running two at the same time. Don't worry @AtlasSP jets will end of May, and Props will be mid June so they won't be at the same time. Everyone wants both so we'll stagger them out for the community. And that way the Prop veterans can get more time to build.
Alright everyone, so here's the final proposal. We'll be running two Challenges first will be the 300 Part Fighter Jet Throw Down which will end on the last day of May, and the 300 Part Prop Shoot Out which will end on the second week of June.
@ChiyomiAnzai @ArcturusAerospace, alright, since you and a lot of other players want to have more prop plane battles, I'll run a second Challenge specifically for prop planes. That way everyone can get out these creative ideas and everyone can get a chance to build their planes. This is a competition, so we want to make sure we are keeping planes organized by class.
+1@BdidiCorps it depends. If it's for cosmetics then yes. No XML modding that'll make your weapons more powerful. For example modding out the fire rate or spread of the shot can make it do way more damage at different ranges. In cases like that no, but if you want to make your bullets green yes.
+1@ChiyomiAnzai it's a cool a cool idea, and if you really want and the community agrees, I'll open the competition up to props.
@TheFantasticTyphoon yes it can, if you have an awesome design already, you can use it. You can only submit one entry, so if anything else test it and just make sure its within competition rules.
@Mickk you did a good job, as I said, I made this competition based on performance, and engineering, not necessarily how many parts you can stick on a 3D model. You showed your skill as an engineer and and innovator of design. Keep it up, awesome job, and we can't wait to see you in the next one.
@AtlasSP sounds perfect, I think we've been a good team up to this point. Plus the community really enjoyed this.
+1@ChiyomiAnzai we'll jump back to propellers in June, I know it's a bit out, but some members want to show off their jets in combat.
@TheFantasticTyphoon I'm thinking end of May for this one, more time will be needed, you guys will need to test a little more. Your dealing with much faster planes and your balancing out different factors for your strategy.
Finally, and it was very close, you all made excellent designs, but @Mickk and the Warrior is the last best of show. It was a winner in dogfights and it's radical wing design, consistent body design, and that it flies so well with such a different take on engineering, made it stand out.
Best of Show Award Thunderdome
@AWESOMENESS360 if fought to the very last engine. It was a close fight, and with the guns being so close to each other made it very effective once it got a clear shot on an opponent. Probably one of the best dogfights I've seen in a while.
Best of Show Award Thunderdome
+1Best of Show Award Thunderdome
+3Next best of show will go to @LegnaK for a truly clean design on the JRS-0.2K Gavran Basic build, the decal work was really impressive for being 200 parts.
+2The first best of show goes to @AWESOMENESS360 for it's unique canard design.
+1The winner of the first ever Thunderdome is @Mickk and the Warrior
Hey Guys, thanks for making this all possible. I'm going to realease a video sometime later on today closing out our very first Thunderdome and highliting some of the builds. I'll start a new post on what we should do next. Let me know what series works best for you guys. Fighter Jets would be cool but if anyone wants to voice their ideas please let us know. Other than that a special thanks to @AtlasSP, who made this challenge literally come to life.
+1@CptJacobson yeah I did, I'm redesigning the fuselage. It's a cool design but the original didn't have much room for an interior.
@CptJacobson a little present for the CVAF, not yet ready for mobile devices, but think of it as an upgrade to the Drake. Your free to use it and customize it to your needs. The Bully is still in production, but something in the meantime.
@0n33 now I remember this one, this one was the one that was a little crazy with the AI. Well I checked it out, @AtlasSP, this one is good for the competition.
@plane918273645, @Syabil. I'll get with Atlas on this one. We'll run it before round two so you both have a chance to advance.
I'll go through the videos and the comments. I know some of us couldn't make a successor to the challenge which is okay, just makes it a little trickier to track.
@Syabil well round two hasn't started yet, and we have two planes who still need to fly, so I'm pretty sure we can put up another match. So @Syabil, and @plane918273645. Give us the link to your planes, that way we don't miss them, also if anyone who's fighter did not fly, let us know. We are juggling quite a bit of entries, but we definitely don't want to miss you guys.
@0n33 we'll definitely have more in the future. I put up a post that'll work like a guide so anyone can start one. If anything else we can maybe start one on the last week of May. We'll probably do fighter jets this time around though I'll put up a post first to see what everyone is down for. I know there's an OP challenge being ran right now which is similar oncase you want to do something in the meantime.
@plane918273645 Hey @AtlasSP we may need to run another around. I think we missed a plane.
Score Sheet: 1-5
Categories:
Fuselage: 2 Good ol' barrel body, like the Hellcat, I'd recommend having a little more transition for the cockpit.
Wings: 4 It's so unique, performance aside it looks really cool
Design: 3 Like what you did with the guns, and you did good wrapping the wings, making one end thicker than the other is an easily missed detail, but you definitely nailed it on this one.
Decals: 2 They look good, details got a little crazy around the tail, but I do see that they are there. Of course I can tell this thing is built for hunting which is just fine.
Total: 11
Can't say I can imagine this plane flying in real life, but I definitely would want to. I looks like a heavy interceptor, which is perfect for the role it was built for. My recommendation is outside the competition I'd make a revised version. This thing is kind of crazy looking, but it's a good crazy.
+1Score Sheet: 1-5
Categories:
Fuselage: 3
Wings: 3
Design: 4
Decals: 1
Total 11
Overall I like the design, good build. I actually like the landing gear on this one, and I think it makes it unique.
Hey guys, just posted a link to a quick overview of how a Thunder Dome works in case anyone wants to host another one in the future. The video function isn't working but it goes over the rules is pretty good detail. Also, great @AtlasSP, good stuff on those videos. I'm working on judging the build and I might do a bit on the top three too. Sorry if I'm not very good at linking videos.
Link
+1https://youtu.be/f5qG_S2aO3M