@SupremeDorian I thought @WiiMini was banned because of an SPBC raid. You should have just banned him from SPBC and not SP itself. Just because SPBC has the same moderators as the SP forum does not mean it counts as one entity when it comes to punishment. I don't understand why this is happening.
@WiiWiiTheMini yeah of course, rex of all people. Although I don't agree with you on some things, I am still sad to see you go. I still see you as a friend and great builder. Like the entire community, I will still be incredibly sad to see you go.
@PapaKernels I see some other people have answered your question. But most people don’t understand the uses for each kind of wing. But ChiChiWerx did make a post about the wings a few years back. I can’t find it now, and his explanation was complicated, so:
Flat bottom creates the most lift and the most induced drag. This kind of airfoil has forgiving stall characteristics as well. Use this when low drag is not a priority, i.e. GA aircraft.
Symmetric creates the least lift and even requires positive AoA to do so. It does have the least induced drag at 0* AoA (duh, I mean, induced drag only exists when lift is created). Its stall characteristics also have totally, absolutely nothing to be desired. Induced drag can get high when the AoA is high (i.e. when a lot of lift is needed). This may be a bad thing, but some planes (like the Concorde) use it to their advantage as an alternative to spoilers. This type of airfoil is used almost exclusively for the supersonic bois, for which high lift and a high critical AoA is not desired, but low drag is the utmost priority.
Semi-symmetric takes the middle ground. It still creates a decent amount of lift at 0 AoA but still has less drag than the FB airfoil. Obviously, this type of wing is used for subsonic jets, which still fly fast (so they care about drag) but can still afford to (and sometimes need to) create some more lift.
By the way, I have flown the C172 a few times irl, and fly A320s a lot in flight simulators at home. The two planes use the FB and SS type airfoils respectively. Believe me, there is a big difference, although for the most part it is not experienced in SP. There are subtle differences that most do not notice.
@tsampoy thank you so much for the upvote and spotlight! I hope you enjoy the build.
P.S. I got away with using default engines, landing gear, and wings xD
@vcharng no. It's not just that it will be backwards. You mistakenly wrote LandingGear instead of GearDown. Not only is it reversed, if you actually use LandingGear and have your code for the modern gear retraction the gear will actually only retract halfway. Plus, you said yourself that LandingGear is 1 when extended and -1 when retracted. In reality, LandingGear is 1 when retracted and 0 when retracted. What you said is true for (and what your code works for) is GearDown which is 1 when extended and -1 when retracted.
Moderators have very strict rules against it, and ED has seen FeiWu's challenges. If he was point farming, the challenges would be taken down.
ED has also said that if entries are not graded and prizes not handed out within two weeks of the entry deadline, the host will be ban-worthy if someone reports the challenge.
@UltraLight don't expect this to be too popular. The categories may only have 2 or 3 entires in each. Unless you somehow show the big names you're the best plane judger in the world, don't expect too much lol
This is from my own experiences. I did a bush plane challenge a month earlier.
@EternalDarkness I suggest you actually notify users of strikes so they do not just get spontaneously banned without even noticing anything
@jamesPLANESii they are most likely permanent.
@Cyan but that's not the reason for the change
@XAircraftManufacturer congrats!
understand that now you're gold there are higher standards.
@Hedero but the blue lights mark the taxiways and not the runways
+1@tsampoy oh ok
@tsampoy no, it’s just that someone else did it for you
@rexzion the challenges, but I hope not to mention that again
@tsampoy so it seems like you need help with custom gear. Can I help you with it in your next build? I like to make landing gear lol
+1@tsampoy
+1@PapaKernels that is noted. I will put your plane on the list
@Blue0Bull That is noted. Thank you for letting me know. But it does just seem like an excuse for banning him because of the disc raid tho.
@SupremeDorian I thought @WiiMini was banned because of an SPBC raid. You should have just banned him from SPBC and not SP itself. Just because SPBC has the same moderators as the SP forum does not mean it counts as one entity when it comes to punishment. I don't understand why this is happening.
@PapaKernels sorry. If you have a particular question then maybe I can answer it. I don't even know much about early prop planes anyway.
@tsampoy imma feature ur plane
@WiiWiiTheMini to avoid being banned for shameless advertising I will discord DM you
@WiiWiiTheMini I also decided to add the dev console and funky trees as well
@WiiWiiTheMini thank you. Anything else?
@WiiWiiTheMini going back to the intended subject, do you want any question to be answered? Asking one would be greatly appreciated.
@UltraLight oh ok I get it now
@UltraLight so I just rate the flight model on a scale of 1-10?
@UltraLight elaborate on the first question plz? what is the 1-10 flight model?
@UltraLight sure what are them
@WiiWiiTheMini yeah of course, rex of all people. Although I don't agree with you on some things, I am still sad to see you go. I still see you as a friend and great builder. Like the entire community, I will still be incredibly sad to see you go.
@PapaKernels thanks for pin btw
@PapaKernels @tsampoy AoA is “Angle of Attack”
@PapaKernels I see some other people have answered your question. But most people don’t understand the uses for each kind of wing. But ChiChiWerx did make a post about the wings a few years back. I can’t find it now, and his explanation was complicated, so:
Flat bottom creates the most lift and the most induced drag. This kind of airfoil has forgiving stall characteristics as well. Use this when low drag is not a priority, i.e. GA aircraft.
Symmetric creates the least lift and even requires positive AoA to do so. It does have the least induced drag at 0* AoA (duh, I mean, induced drag only exists when lift is created). Its stall characteristics also have totally, absolutely nothing to be desired. Induced drag can get high when the AoA is high (i.e. when a lot of lift is needed). This may be a bad thing, but some planes (like the Concorde) use it to their advantage as an alternative to spoilers. This type of airfoil is used almost exclusively for the supersonic bois, for which high lift and a high critical AoA is not desired, but low drag is the utmost priority.
Semi-symmetric takes the middle ground. It still creates a decent amount of lift at 0 AoA but still has less drag than the FB airfoil. Obviously, this type of wing is used for subsonic jets, which still fly fast (so they care about drag) but can still afford to (and sometimes need to) create some more lift.
By the way, I have flown the C172 a few times irl, and fly A320s a lot in flight simulators at home. The two planes use the FB and SS type airfoils respectively. Believe me, there is a big difference, although for the most part it is not experienced in SP. There are subtle differences that most do not notice.
@tsampoy thank you so much for the upvote and spotlight! I hope you enjoy the build.
P.S. I got away with using default engines, landing gear, and wings xD
@KLM_747 you madman
@tsampoy probably not. idk lol
MSG
So... this is the first build of the legend @QingyuZhou
Please stop looking at this 23 part abomination. Your time is better spent looking at the plane this engine was designed for.
@EternalDarkness thanks lol
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+2@vcharng oh ok
@AsteroidAsteroidTheBook lol
@AsteroidAsteroidTheBook @tsampoy @WiiWiiTheMini to address the oversized engines and wings, this is a shortened variant of the original plane.
@vcharng no. It's not just that it will be backwards. You mistakenly wrote
LandingGearinstead ofGearDown. Not only is it reversed, if you actually useLandingGearand have your code for the modern gear retraction the gear will actually only retract halfway. Plus, you said yourself thatLandingGearis 1 when extended and -1 when retracted. In reality,LandingGearis 1 when retracted and 0 when retracted. What you said is true for (and what your code works for) isGearDownwhich is 1 when extended and -1 when retracted.@vcharng after reading your instructions, I realized after three hours you meant
GearDowninstead ofLandingGearplease change it.
@SavageMan a rather c o n t r o v e r s i a l meme too.
@KnightOfRen thanks
@rexrexThezion
1. You know about me (prev. known as APilotOfPlanes)
2. This community is toxic, at least to me. You don’t feel it.
@KnightOfRen
ED has also said that if entries are not graded and prizes not handed out within two weeks of the entry deadline, the host will be ban-worthy if someone reports the challenge.
bruh
yeah. basically people are picking on my word choice now.
@KnightOfRen yay lol
@UltraLight don't expect this to be too popular. The categories may only have 2 or 3 entires in each. Unless you somehow show the big names you're the best plane judger in the world, don't expect too much lol
This is from my own experiences. I did a bush plane challenge a month earlier.