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Why your builds are not getting more upvotes

19.3k QuitePossiblyMangled  4.1 years ago

So, ever noticed how you have 20 downloads but have only 1 upvote? Well, you are not alone. Literally almost everyone else is having the same issue.


Why your builds are not getting more upvotes

Upvote to Download ratio and how it effects us


*Graph displaying Upvote to Download ratio of 120 user builds, ranging from recent builds to the 1000+ upvote P-51*

What is an Upvote to Download ratio? An Upvote to Download ratio is a number that tells you how many upvotes your build will get for every so many downloads. You can calculate this yourself.

(upvotes/downloads)+(x/1)

So, if your build has 4 upvote and 20 downloads, your upvote to download ratio is 0.2, or 1 upvote to every 5 downloads. You can get the latter by making the decimal a fraction.


So why isn't the number of downloads and upvotes equal?

From what I can see, the issue arises from two things.

-The public users
-The silent majority

These two groups contribute to the problem, but for different reasons.


Public Users

Have you ever downloaded a build to try it out but forgot to come back to upvote it? Perhaps the thought of upvoting never crossed your mind. No matter the reason, it happens to all of us.

We, users with Simpleplanes accounts, do not always upvote the builds we download. This could be cause by many thing, from simply forgetting to do so too just not believing the build deserves your upvote. This is part of the reason why our upvotes do not match the amount of downloads.


The silent majority

There is a large mass of invisible users hidden from our view. They watch and observe in the shadows, downloading your builds without leaving a trail. Who is this mysterious group?

0 point users and people without accounts.

Yep, they are why so many builds of our builds have so much more downloads to upvotes. They simply can't upvote your build.


Putting it all together


*Close in on former graph*

So, whats with the graph? This is the ratios of 100+ user builds, ranging from 1:4, a build with one upvote and four downloads, too 9:12500, the most upvoted build on the site. With this, we can see that the ratio between upvotes and downloads decreases the more upvotes you get. But why?

This is due to the silent majority.

The silent majority comes into play once the build becomes popular. This could be reaching the front page making the highest rated for day/week/month. This is where the silent majority will see your build and begin downloading it.

Till then, users get their downloads primarily from users like me and you, who will occasionally scroll through hottest and newest or find the build through a teaser. This happens till the build fades into obscurity or reaches an area with large amounts of traffic, which is where the silent majority picks up.


Conclusion

Your builds are not getting as many upvotes because a large section of the downloaders don't upvote it. This happens because either they can't, choose not to, or have some other reason.

Is this an issue? Not really

Can it be solved? No

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    May or may not have been an excuse to post graphs in a forum post.


    And please don't let there be any drama, I don't want to be known for starting a wild fire

    Pinned 4.1 years ago
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    It do be like that @CatMasterLuke

    2.8 years ago
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    I have a build that has over 1000 downloads but only 6 upvotes and no comments

    2.8 years ago
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    It’s more of a theory more than anything @ThomasRoderick

    +1 4.1 years ago
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    Should this be considered some sort of shower thought or "onsen thought"?

    4.1 years ago
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    @MintLynx Lol. Im in the development of making a cheat sheet for users on how to maximize upvotes and a fun fact forum about simpleplanes.

    +1 4.1 years ago
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    71.3k MintLynx

    UtsuhoReiuji, giving us all the answers.

    +2 4.1 years ago
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    @AWESOMENESS360 Fixed.

    4.1 years ago
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    We can’t see your graphs, only a small square.

    4.1 years ago
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    @UtsuhoReiuji absolutely massive.

    4.1 years ago
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    5,997 JakeS

    Am I part of the problem

    4.1 years ago
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    @BaconAircraft Big brain

    4.1 years ago
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    just dont upload and u dont have to worry about upvotes. 4head

    4.1 years ago
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    54.6k Astro12

    silent majority - very large. On the site I can count 200-300 active users (they post planes, put Upvotes, write comments) users. Well maybe 350. Not more. I always see the same people. And the silent majority just exists, and that's it. I'm a little sad that active 200-300 users have to simulate the activity of 20,000+ accounts registered on the site. Give everyone more Upvote and the world may be better.

    +1 4.1 years ago
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    @NAD Agreed, but I don't think it would do much to fix the problem.

    4.1 years ago
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    12.1k dINE

    i think the upvote button is too far away when you open a creation page, it should be in the top of the page instead of being at the bottom

    it sounds like a joke but lazyness is everywhere

    4.1 years ago
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    @Gluck Thank you! If you have any topics you want me to cover I will be glad to do so. Right now I am beginning my research into how to achieve platinum fast. This will take a while as I need to do some more research.

    4.1 years ago
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    30.1k ALTMTR

    The silent majority sure are real, I know so because I was such person and some of ones I knew and played and downloaded a heck ton of builds but don't own an account. Yeah, it is a bit of a problem but hey recognition through downloads.

    4.1 years ago
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    5,042 Gluck

    yeah, this is true
    also I like these little analysis forums
    they're cool

    4.1 years ago
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    7,513 SuperRoto

    Yeah, the silent majority is real. When I was calculating the total registered users, there were tons of 0 point users. Whether they were bots or not, that remains to be seen.

    +1 4.1 years ago
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    this aint a problem for me cause i DONT NEED upvotes

    4.1 years ago
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    11.1k FumoCirno

    pain

    4.1 years ago
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    23.1k KudaOni

    No wonder... some of my creations have like 100s of download but almost very few upvotes. But yeah. The silent majority is a real thing

    4.1 years ago
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    @KnightOfRen that's right, I'm a bot programmed to follow you. The end of your pathetic race is nigh

    4.1 years ago
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    @KnightOfRen then all of them will go into solitary

    4.1 years ago
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