@MIGFOXHOUND31BSM26 same, i've always thought that his overuse of ai for almost everything is a little odd but simply shrugged it off initially, that is of course until he did what he did which got him banned xd
@MIGFOXHOUND31BSM26 my bad, it was khichi2866, which is the actual main account of those accounts that i was referring to, he of course was banned for harrasment and for using alts for not the nicest things
@MIGFOXHOUND31BSM26 im aware of that, i just thought it was funny how kisher uses ai for like 99% of their stuff, including comments for some reason lmao
@YarisSedan Unfortunately, this solution presents some problems too:
1. How could they generate IDs for people who already purchased SP1 (becuase for this system to work, SP1 needs to have this feature too because the devs announced that both games will be using this website), they'd need to confirm all exsiting accounts one-by-one or ask the players to cofirm themselves.
2. Jundroo is a small team and this solution is a niche solution for a niche problem (it's not like the website is currently in anarchy because of a few ban evaders, mods usually deal with them as soon as they become a big enough problem), so Jundroo would probably waste time allocating resources to developing this instead of more important features
3. How could you match up accounts for people who have the game on multiple platforms (for example, I have the game both on Steam and on Android, which would mean I would have 2 IDs, which one would I have to use?)
4. As I said, pirates (and thus alts too) could circumvent this by all using the same one ID that they somehow get their hands on (this can be partially solved by setting a limit to how many accounts on ID can register but then there would probably be some other flaw that Im not thinking of rn) so again, it's a lot of effort for a feature that could still be circumvented if someone is dedicated enough.
Hence why I said that Jundroo will likely never make this. It's far easier to just have the moderator team investigate them case-by-case and try to keep things in check manually
@YarisSedan A sytem like that would be possible by matching the ip addresses (which the mods can already do but they only use it as a last resort to confirm if an account is an alt) but unfortunately, VPN can circumvent even that (hence why mods dont use this too often)
I believe the only solution (and this might be an unpopular solution) would be to add a feature to the game itself where upon purchasing a copy, it generates a unique ID for that copy of the game and this ID would be required for registration (it would be matched against some kind of database so people can't just make one up). This way, mods or even an automated system like the one you described, could easily check if two registered accounts used the same ID for registration thus determine whose alt an account is.
This would probably also deny players with pirated copies from interacting on the website (or, it would turn into an "I'm Spartacus" situation where all the players who use pirated copies would share the same ID) but it would make the website a bit more secure (it would probably also deny all those virus link bots). There would probably be ways to circumvent even this because every system has flaws but it would still somewhat reduce the number of alt related issues. I dont think Jundroo would make something like this tho, because of multiple reasons
@BMilan for real, i honestly think there should be a system where if this website detects that account b is the same as the now banned account a, it would automatically ban account b, and if the person is still persistent, either the ban time for their original account became much longer, or they would be ip banned for good without the moderators having to play a cat and mouse game
@BMilan long story short, on my forum post where i asked people their opinions on ai, someone who is not only very supportive of ai tech, but has even used it on their forum post because he's too lazy to write long essays and hire actual artists to draw concept images for him, decided to use several of his alt to falsely report my forum post because they got very salty or some shit, not only that, he even had the audacity to create ANOTHER alt account just to ban evade and call people stupid for not praising or supporting ai tech while also being completely blind of the harmful side effects of ai, then he kept escalating it from there which results in their alt accounts ban, which i'd say is 100% justified considering his bozo behavior lmao xd
@Boeing727200F Also dont forget that using alts to evade bans (so like, if one's main account gets banned and they use an alt account to stay active) is also not allowed. Gotta type this out because recently I've seen way too many users think that if they get banned they can just return with an alt like nothing happened and then be surprised when the mods ban their alts too (and make the original ban's time longer as well)
@MrWriteMonday yes
they are allowed but have rules
you cant spotlight your own builds nor upvote your own
basically you cant support yourself
i will make one soon i guess
@MIGFOXHOUND31BSM26 same, i've always thought that his overuse of ai for almost everything is a little odd but simply shrugged it off initially, that is of course until he did what he did which got him banned xd
@YarisSedan ah, I never noticed him
@MIGFOXHOUND31BSM26 my bad, it was khichi2866, which is the actual main account of those accounts that i was referring to, he of course was banned for harrasment and for using alts for not the nicest things
@YarisSedan ah, (also what was there username)
@MIGFOXHOUND31BSM26 im aware of that, i just thought it was funny how kisher uses ai for like 99% of their stuff, including comments for some reason lmao
@YarisSedan quick thing on the hiring artists part (some of us don’t have the money)
@BMilan fair point actually
@YarisSedan Unfortunately, this solution presents some problems too:
1. How could they generate IDs for people who already purchased SP1 (becuase for this system to work, SP1 needs to have this feature too because the devs announced that both games will be using this website), they'd need to confirm all exsiting accounts one-by-one or ask the players to cofirm themselves.
2. Jundroo is a small team and this solution is a niche solution for a niche problem (it's not like the website is currently in anarchy because of a few ban evaders, mods usually deal with them as soon as they become a big enough problem), so Jundroo would probably waste time allocating resources to developing this instead of more important features
3. How could you match up accounts for people who have the game on multiple platforms (for example, I have the game both on Steam and on Android, which would mean I would have 2 IDs, which one would I have to use?)
4. As I said, pirates (and thus alts too) could circumvent this by all using the same one ID that they somehow get their hands on (this can be partially solved by setting a limit to how many accounts on ID can register but then there would probably be some other flaw that Im not thinking of rn) so again, it's a lot of effort for a feature that could still be circumvented if someone is dedicated enough.
Hence why I said that Jundroo will likely never make this. It's far easier to just have the moderator team investigate them case-by-case and try to keep things in check manually
@BMilan that honestly sounds like a fantastic idea, the devs really need to add that once sp2 is released on all platforms
@YarisSedan A sytem like that would be possible by matching the ip addresses (which the mods can already do but they only use it as a last resort to confirm if an account is an alt) but unfortunately, VPN can circumvent even that (hence why mods dont use this too often)
I believe the only solution (and this might be an unpopular solution) would be to add a feature to the game itself where upon purchasing a copy, it generates a unique ID for that copy of the game and this ID would be required for registration (it would be matched against some kind of database so people can't just make one up). This way, mods or even an automated system like the one you described, could easily check if two registered accounts used the same ID for registration thus determine whose alt an account is.
This would probably also deny players with pirated copies from interacting on the website (or, it would turn into an "I'm Spartacus" situation where all the players who use pirated copies would share the same ID) but it would make the website a bit more secure (it would probably also deny all those virus link bots). There would probably be ways to circumvent even this because every system has flaws but it would still somewhat reduce the number of alt related issues. I dont think Jundroo would make something like this tho, because of multiple reasons
@BMilan for real, i honestly think there should be a system where if this website detects that account b is the same as the now banned account a, it would automatically ban account b, and if the person is still persistent, either the ban time for their original account became much longer, or they would be ip banned for good without the moderators having to play a cat and mouse game
@YarisSedan Oh, well I missed that particular one but it just further proves how common of a problem this is
@BMilan long story short, on my forum post where i asked people their opinions on ai, someone who is not only very supportive of ai tech, but has even used it on their forum post because he's too lazy to write long essays and hire actual artists to draw concept images for him, decided to use several of his alt to falsely report my forum post because they got very salty or some shit, not only that, he even had the audacity to create ANOTHER alt account just to ban evade and call people stupid for not praising or supporting ai tech while also being completely blind of the harmful side effects of ai, then he kept escalating it from there which results in their alt accounts ban, which i'd say is 100% justified considering his bozo behavior lmao xd
@YarisSedan Not sure which incident you mean because I've seen multiple in the past few months lol
@BMilan oh yeah, i still remember that incident, and on one of my forum post too
@BMilan peak alt gameplay
@Boeing727200F Also dont forget that using alts to evade bans (so like, if one's main account gets banned and they use an alt account to stay active) is also not allowed. Gotta type this out because recently I've seen way too many users think that if they get banned they can just return with an alt like nothing happened and then be surprised when the mods ban their alts too (and make the original ban's time longer as well)
@YarisSedan i forgot about that
@Boeing727200F or you know... using the alts to falsely mass report stuff and or harras people?
@Boeing727200F ok
@MrWriteMonday yes
they are allowed but have rules
you cant spotlight your own builds nor upvote your own
basically you cant support yourself
i will make one soon i guess
Alt account is allowed??@Boeing727200F
@ShinyGemsBro but why though???
Why is this translated from Hawaiian
hi alt
are you here for more pain and suffering