@Sm10684 AlsoI was right wasn't I? Almost every phone has a notch. Atleast they don't do like apple on the thing where apple doesn't include a fast charger that they charge 40$ for while the mi mix 3 comes with one of those and a fast charger. Also it is all screen.

@Sm10684 they not doe

iPhones and androids are really the same except for the looks and buttons

Yes, I completely understand your point of view, and of course there are some trade offs; though I think the notch isn’t something significant enough to warrant a delay of a bezel-less display for another generation of phones. As for ruggedness, I was referring to a blend of aesthetics and durability. The active series from the Samsung line is obviously more durable; but it comes at a cost of a much higher weight and thickness... not to mention the loss of all the aesthetics of the standard Samsung model. Anyway, thanks for being cooperative and non-hostile. @Squirrel

@Rodrigo110 I think we'll have to agree to disagree here. For me it's about the ecosystem of the technology, rather than the brands themselves. Which was what I was referring to in my argument. Although, when taking into consideration wireless charging since apple didn't pick that up until fairly recently, despite the fact it's been perfected for quite some time. That and they didn't even implement the latest version of it.
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And bezel-less phone have been around for ages. Like you say there were some tradeoffs, but if the notch isn't a tradeoff, then I don't know what is.
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As for building quality, I'd have to disagree again. There are definitely more rugged phones out there. Some manufacturers put out phones that are designed to be thrown around. I believe Samsung do an active series, but they aren't the only manufacturer. But like you say aesthetics is largely opinion based.
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To be honest, I was a bit reluctant to make this reply on the premise that it could be interpreted as hostile. I assure you that's not the intention here, rather to explain my thought process and my perspective since it's not 100% clear from my original comment.
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As for jumping on the bandwagon and copying eachother. All companies do it. Literally all. Take for example the Yak-141 and F-35 engine VTOL (keeping it relevent to planes) system. I believe Lockheed Martin bought the blueprints from them in order to produce the engine... I think... It's been a while since I looked at the topic. But you get the idea.

@Rodrigo110 oh ok but the video is a reply to the comment that you tagged me in

I was talking to Squirrel @Minecraftpoweer

@Squirrel. Yes. :( back in the Jobs era, Apple was doing most of the innovating, however now, it doesn’t really matter.
@Minecraftpoweer it was an LG

@Rodrigo110 i never said that apple is copying i said that the companies that make Android phones are doing the same as apple. also video of bendgate proof it is from Youtube but i have already told you abot the fact that they knew that the Iphone 6 and 6s were more likely to bend by a large ammount.

@Squirrel atleast i know that this post wont be removed and i did write that they could replace the headphone jack with Another usb type c port.

You might think Apple is ‘jumping on bandwagon by copying android’ but ‘Android’ (as you refer to it) is literally every single company making phones that use android, while Apple is just one company; so is it fair to compare? Also, while small companies might have done phones with no headphone jack; Apple was the big company with the influence to actually change and shape the future into being wireless, so it’s a much bigger risk for Apple to do it than a small company. Also, you convienently forget to mention that literally every single phone except one wasn’t the first to include a bezelless display, not just Apple. Apple waited until the technology was developed enough to use it properly with no drawbacks (unlike the early bezeless phones). I’m going to say it for the last time to everyone. I like all technology companies (including android phone makers!), but Apple wins hands down in build quality, aesthetics (though that’s of course dependant on the user) and software optimisation, which are the most important things for me. @Squirrel

@Squirrel I have to agree, when it comes to music. I rarely listen to music on my phone due to it not having the full of said songs. Songs on iPhone are generally a bit quieter and less detailed (in my ears) than when I listen to music on my laptop or other device.

The iPhone X didn’t crack easily, and the iPhone 8 cracked the same as a Samsung phone! Regardless of what Samsung might be doing right now; the iPhone X was released a while ago when that technology wasn’t here. Bendgate is not supported by facts; and it didn’t bend easily, there were just a few cases of it. @Minecraftpoweer

@InternationalAircraftCompany i’ve gone into setting, they only provide a link to their website saying why they “had” to slow down your phone. Plus, I take care of my phone battery really well. Once it is at 100% take it out so there is no battery acid build up and etc.

As much as I don't like Apple, I have to disagree with you here. The headphone jack is analogue technology and thus prone to error when listening to music/sound from it. Most of it isn't detectable to the average user, if at all, but the fact people know they're listening to music with errors means they know they aren't listening to what the artist intended them to listen to.
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USB Type C uses digital transmission, thus the signal is comprised of 1s and 0s, meaning that even if the signal is distorted, the receiver can rectify most/any errors in the signal. By contrast, it's next to impossible to rectify errors as there's more than just 2 states for the signal. This image shows what I mean. It's a bit simplified, but you can easily tell on the digital signal where the 1 and the 0 are supposed to be... not so much on the other though.
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With that in mind, one faces a dilemma. USB type C is more than capable of transmitting music to an output device, so you can give the end user a superior listening experience, but at the cost of removing the headphone jack. But as phones become slimmer, lighter, some of these older technologies will have to become obsolete in order for devices to progress forwards.
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The notch is a transitional phase to a bezel-less display. Manufacturers are still working out what to do with things like the front camera and speakers. Although, these problems have largely been rectified on prototype and some production devices. needless to say, I'd be surprised if the notch is still a thing in about 2 years time.
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All in all, these issues are either temporary or necessary. And as in most cases, Android devices had released devices with a notch and without a headphone jack before apple did. Apple just jumped on the bandwagon as per usual.

@Rodrigo110 It still cracks easely and other brands have as premium materials like the one samsung will use for their next note and S devices which is called ''metal 12'' which is not used by any other Company. Also i have used real facts that have proof including the bendgate one that you love to deny.

@StarKnight697 have you seen the s9? it is very well built and so are a lot of Android phones and considering pretty much none of the top brands have backs on their phones that you can open you probably had a cheap phone because Android is opensource and free to use so anyone can make a cheap Android phone.

Apple is superior in quality, security, support, and is way ahead of the curve. While Android has good customization, the quality sucks. I used to have an Android, and whenever I held it wrong, the back would fall off, and the battery would fall out. Apple is superior in all mobile devices, but for computers, I prefer Dell

There are so many Bluetooth headphones nowadays that headphone jacks are almost obsolete anyways. They may look small, but the space they take up on the inside of the phone is relatively huge. Removing it allows for more memory, faster processors, and overall better quality.

Why are you so surprised? Samsung phones are even less resistant to damage than the iPhones in that video? @Minecraftpoweer

The notch isn’t the greatest design, but the lack of a headphone jack is inevitable, and I’m glad that Apple did it. Wireless is the future, and just because you are too caught up in trying to hate everything that Apple does; all headphones and speakers are becoming bluetooth. You need companies like Apple to push technology forward@Minecraftpoweer

iPhones are created with premium materials. The aluminium 7000 series featured in the iPhones is stronger and much more durable than the materials found in competitors (as seen in drop tests). I don’t come up with bad arguments; you are simply saying things which are not backed up by any proof, while I am being objective. @Minecraftpoweer

Why does this say Edited: 86 comments on this post? hmmm... 🤔

@Rodrigo110 10/10 Construction + 10/10 repair cost video

@Rodrigo110 also this forum is about the fact that the notch and removing the headphone jack is stupid and is bad for everyone because other companies do like apple