@GeneralOliverVonBismarck That's more or less where this is, as a medium fighter. But I thought that 200000lbs was plenty and haven't tested further. I mainly run into the issue of destabilising the cog. This can handle everything on the map plus air threats, why add more ammunition past that? Really like you say thats big plane territory, one Tsar bomb is enough for a medium fighter. Would love to see your plane loaded up :)

@Mostly maybe

@MrDoolittle Maybe it's because the weapons are clumped together?

@Mostly maybe it's some other setting? I run high too and a missile catching fire is always a death sentence.

@MrDoolittle High

@Mostly that makes sense.

@Mostly hmm what physics are u running? It blows up my entire plane for me

They poof into thin air if they catch fire, the “explosion” wouldn’t provoke a chain reaction because SP physics.@MrDooLittle
The splash damage from the flak cannons will detonate all near by explosive-reactive weapons.@RodWan

@MrDoolittle lol. How powerful was flack damage irl I wonder.

@RodWan oh you can survive if it just misses your plane

@MrDoolittle learned what? One hit death from flack? Or I bet your talking about the missile catching fire. Cool good go know. Still wonder if it's possible to survive a flack hit though. I've survived missile hits before, but mostly due to luck and where it hit me. Right in the counter measure!

@RodWan I learned this when I am testing how much damage my plane can take

@Mostly I'm curious if you know anything about taking flack damage and surviving. Always one shots me, so I have to go long range missile or carpet bomb on them. Never been able to strafe kill both destroyers :(.

@MrDoolittle I've never had that happen. I'll take your word. But I would have to chalk that up to "you're doing it wrong". At least with reference to my plane. You shouldn't be engaging in a dogfight with a full payload. Use the missiles, if they get too close either outrun them or jettison the extra weight. And if you get shot down by a ground target because you're in gun range with a full load of missiles and bombs, it's not the aircrafts fault. X'D there's enough weaponry there for you to be able to take out everthing but the kraken with out ever getting into gun range.

@Mostly ya, if they get hit enough and catch fire they do

@Mostly good to know. Thanks

@MrDoolittle Bombs/missiles never detonate if they are directly hit by a gun unless the gun destroys it in one hit.

@RodWan damn son

After I release it Im going to make a challenge. (WW2 inspired w/ 2018 Tech) only stipulation will be that planes will need to look like WW2 types and use propellers as primary thrust. Xml allowed if its reasonable, no god weapons or blatant cheats, needs to be passable as legitimate.

@MrDoolittle the max weight for take off is 190000lbs. Thats carrying the Tsar bomb which was one of the thing I wanted this to be capable of. Max acceptable dog fighting speed would be around 45000lbs. It weighs 37264lbs dry with out the fuel pods. 55580lbs loaded with 243lbs of internal fuel 18000lbs ordinance. After dropping the payload it can turn a horizontal 360 in under 10sec, haven't clocked it, but its quick. Top speed at Sea level is 698mph. Stall speed empty is around 120mph. Only xml cheating was for the car mode transformation and one vert stabilizer. All the rest of the wings are standard. Well actually I added two toward the back to move the col. Anyway. She was built as a WW2 inspired air superiority fighter then moded with extra features as my skill grew. I'm actually thinking about making it slower and less agile.

@RodWan but ya would think the weigh would have something to say about it

@MrDoolittle it has 6 elevators

@RodWan hmmm must be more maneuverable than it looks

@MrDoolittle I tried for hours to defeat the wright destroyers with "my first plane" last night. With this it was a cake walk. Minor damage only.

@MrDoolittle I do strafing on the destroyers with this. Very agile. Typically drop the payload before hand through, doesn't make any sense to carry missiles and not use them.