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T-122-47 "Grzmot"

6,867 Diver  3.5 years ago
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Historical note from the pictures: This is the T-122-47 No. 11 from the 5th “Spearhead” battalion of the Polish 2nd Armored Division. The crew received three marks of excellence and two marks of valor on the barrel of their tank, as well as the unofficial yet coveted triple spear decal awarded by the battalion commander for destroying three tanks in one action. Note also the applique armor on the sides and front of the hull and turret as well as the captured MG-42 that the crew mounted for the commander.


THANK YOU

OllielebananiaCFSP who did the screenshots

RussianAce from whom I st- ahem borrowed a few components like the MG

Strucker who made the bear claw that nobody could see on my last tank


Developement and History:

The T-122-47 was set into developement by the Polish just after the Russians ”liberated” Poland. It was designed by the an engineering student named Wladyslaw Szatkowska. The first production models were heavily influenced by the Russian KVs and they first rolled off the line in 1947, hence the name T-122-47. It saw action against the Germans who were now openly backed by the Argentenains. The design though rather outdated, was still effective against new German tanks due to its thick armor and large gun.
The now venerable Pz. IV G was little more than bait for the T-122-48 and the Panther were only slightly more successful. The Panther II and Tiger I were able to put up more resistance, but the best competitor the Germans could field was the Tiger II.


General Description

The T-122-47 fielded a rather massive 122 mm gun (hence the namesake) that could penetrate 238 mm of armor angled at the normal and at point blank range. Its frontal armor on the hull was 125 mm and the turret had maximum of 250 mm of frontal armor. The tank had an astounding (for such a heavy tank) top speed of 44 kph thanks to its massive 790 hp ”Biegacz” engine.


Controls

Motion - WASD/Pitch – Roll
Turret controls - EQ/Yaw and VTOL
FireWeapons AP/HE


Stats for Nerds

Weight:52.62 tonnes
Speed: 44kph | -13kph
Engine: 790hp M-0680-110 ”Biegacz”
Hp/t: 14.905
Guns: 1 x 122 mm gun 40 rounds | 3 x 12 mm machine guns | 1 x MG-42.
Reload: 9.8 seconds | AP/HE
Elevation: 20/-8
Armor: hull|turret: 125/75/50 | 250/100/75
Additional: 30 mm applique plates


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General Characteristics

  • Predecessor KV Type Turret
  • Created On Windows
  • Wingspan 11.5ft (3.5m)
  • Length 34.8ft (10.6m)
  • Height 9.9ft (3.0m)
  • Empty Weight 103,912lbs (47,134kg)
  • Loaded Weight 116,013lbs (52,622kg)

Performance

  • Wing Loading 31,354.3lbs/ft2 (153,084.9kg/m2)
  • Wing Area 3.7ft2 (0.3m2)
  • Drag Points 4781

Parts

  • Number of Parts 1127
  • Control Surfaces 0
  • Performance Cost 5,494

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    35.8k Graingy

    @Diver the "fact" part signifies a joke. sorry if it caused confusion. I am aware of the purposes the vehicles served (or at least were meant to serve). have a nice day.

    3.3 years ago
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    6,867 Diver

    @X4JB Ok thank you!

    3.4 years ago
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    9,320 Yoshimi

    @Diver neutral steering as far as I know means that when rotating on the spot one track will rotate forward and the other backward. most tanks of the time had (except like British and stuff) just rotated a single track forward or backward, while keeping the other one stationary.
    bedsprings are the grids/nets that you had on your earlier tank.
    greebles is a general term for all kinds of small details that decorate the build.

    3.4 years ago
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    6,867 Diver

    @X4JB Regarding FT, I'm not very gud at it so I'm not really sure how to add those features : ( And err... can u also clarify neutral steering? I know some bit about tank stearing, but i don't get u in this case

    3.4 years ago
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    6,867 Diver

    @X4JB Thanks for the increase. Can u clarify what are bedsprings and greebles?

    3.4 years ago
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    9,320 Yoshimi

    @Diver A few things that you can add to performance using FT.
    -when not pressing W it should slow down a lot quicker. you can do this by using FT for the braking
    -the tank slips out at high speeds in sharp angles
    -the tank has neutral steering, which is very unlikely for a Polish 1947 tank

    3.4 years ago
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    9,320 Yoshimi

    Note: my scale ranges from 0 to 10. Everything from a 5-10 is positive. Everything from a 0-5 is negative. This means that this build gives me positive feelings. It is a good score.


    Shape: 9.5/10

    I genuinely love the shape on this one. The KV style lower glacis, IS upper glacis and KV (but way bigger) turret. I also really love the way that the hull becomes slimmer towards the rear. Very interesting.


    Running gear: 3/10

    Tracks_2 without dummy suspension is still not impressive. I hope you would have improved this.


    Greebles: 6/10

    You removed the bed springs from your last tank, which is a very good thing. However a side effect of this is that the rest of the tank looks underdetailed. You can't just remove the bedsprings and not any more greebles under it and expect it to look better. Use the parts you shaved off by removing the bedsprings to create more details.


    Decals and paint scheme: 8.5/10

    The colour is still quite saturated. The decals are nearing perfection (aside of part efficiency). The paint scheme contains a bit too much grey and red.


    Performance: 7/10

    You didn't noticeably improve on the performance. Custom code for the tracks would be appreciated. Roof MG doesn't work and actually just damages your own tank at some angles.


    Conclusion: 6.8/10

    Though an objective improvement over your last tank, it isn't as much of an improvement as I had hoped. A lot of things that I pointed out in the initial review you never used. You did improve on the shape and decals.

    3.4 years ago
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    6,867 Diver

    @X4JB Could you tell me what the performance means more specifically?

    3.4 years ago
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    6,867 Diver

    @X4JB Oh, i'd have added it if i saw it.... I guess I gotta go check it again.

    3.4 years ago
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    9,320 Yoshimi

    @Diver my criticism about vision was about the lack of gun sight. KV and basically all tanks have this

    3.4 years ago
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    6,867 Diver

    @X4JB Ok... yes most of your points are valid. The periscopes were a mistake that I noticed : ( bad mistake. Tank chains were my imitation of steel wire, Russian style tanks have bad vision on the turret, and yeah the cupola has internal hinge.

    But now I know what to fix next time ig.

    3.4 years ago
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    9,320 Yoshimi

    Things that I do like:
    decals give the tank a lot of character and look quite good
    I love the idea of a gun that big, and it's executed well
    I like the idea of a stolen MG (even tho you probably just did it cuz you didn't wanna make one from scratch)
    I love the shape and design of the tank
    I like the spaced addon armour (though unnecessary on rear of turret)
    these addon plates are also a smart way to fit flat decals to a round turret, very creative
    the performance in game is generally very good (though on the boring side)

    3.4 years ago
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    9,320 Yoshimi

    Things that I don't like: (don't read if you don't like nit picking)
    there is z-fighting on the upper glacis, which is unacceptable
    the MGs are not custom. with just a 4 parts you can make them look a lot better than just the stock winggun.
    the front fenders are very badly supported and would easily bend irl
    why does the assistent driver have more periscopes than the actual driver??
    since when do tanks have chains?
    chains are horribly part inefficient compared to cables
    there is an excessive amount of red paint on this tank
    why does the rear turret have added spaced armour? waste of weight and steel
    there is no gunner sight, just a periscope
    there is an excessive amount of grey paint on this tank (some parts that are grey would irl be painted green)
    you didnt improve on the running gear
    the tank slips out of control when doing sharp high speed turns
    the glass of the periscopes is too small to actually fit in the frame
    the commanders hatch doesn't have any hinges (internal hinge??)
    squary decal is offensively part inefficient (so easy to fix)
    drivers view port looks out of place and underdetailed
    the tracer colours are unrealistic and stock

    3.4 years ago
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    6,867 Diver

    @X4JB Thank you. Your reviews are the most comprehensive I'll be getting from anyone, and I feel like I've managed to improve from them.

    3.4 years ago
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    9,320 Yoshimi

    First let me quickly go over the parts that you didn't make yourself. I still think that you as the poster are responsible for any lacks in quality, since you were the one to put them on your tank.


    Bear Claw Decal
    The looks on this decal are quite good. I like it a lot actually. Sadly, like all of Strucker's decals (that I'm aware of), it's horribly part inefficient.

    Looks: 8/10
    Part efficiency: 3/10
    Conclusion: 5.5/10

    MG 42
    It looks pretty good, as expected from RussianAce. However the way you implemented it is pretty bad. The laying of the MG is not even functional, but the wingGun itself is. You should've either made it entirely functional, or removed the wing gun.
    Part efficiency is good on this MG, and replica accuracy is alright.

    Looks: 7/10
    Functionality: 0/10
    Part efficiency: 8/10
    Conclusion: 5/10

    Screenshots:
    The framing on the screenshots is alright. I really don't like the thumbnail, it doesn't show the build well at all. Only like 30% of the frame is the tank. Try to get that up to around 75%.
    Lighting is generally pretty good.
    The map does fit the tank pretty well, and it's a well made map.
    There is no reshade used, which is just not of this time anymore. Reshade is a necessity, especially if you're letting someone else take your screenshots.
    The thumbnail is bad, because it doesn't frame the tank well enough and the tank doesn't have enough contrast with the background (blending in). Also the text is very simplistic. I preferred the thumbnails of your previous tank.

    Framing: 6/10
    Lighting: 9/10
    Map: 7/10
    Reshade: 0/10
    Conclusion: 5.5/10
    3.4 years ago
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    9,320 Yoshimi

    I will do a review of this build comparing it to your Progetto P. 75 Mod. 51 Serpente. I will be referring to my review of said tank as well.

    3.4 years ago
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    6,867 Diver

    @HeavyC22 no problem :)

    3.4 years ago
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    5,408 HeavyC22

    THANK YOU SOOOOOOO MUCH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    3.4 years ago
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    6,867 Diver

    @RussianAce Thanks!

    3.5 years ago
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    6,867 Diver

    @Graingy lol, thr Heshbarn was bigger turret han the KV-2 and was designed to kill tanks using a gun much bigger than that of the KV-2, while the KV-2 was designed to bust bunkers not tanks.

    3.5 years ago
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    35.8k Graingy

    @Diver “Fact”: the FV4005 was a Somewhat successful attempt to replicate the KV-2. While it matched the firepower of the KV-2, it failed to match the armour, thus never made it into production.

    3.5 years ago
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    6,867 Diver

    Thanks! @iniMiiW

    3.5 years ago
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    6,867 Diver

    Thanks for the spot! @scratch

    +1 3.5 years ago
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    6,867 Diver

    @Graingy That's a little of a far stretch tbh. The turret isn't tall enough. I may be making a sort of hesh barn soon maybe.... A Russian hesh barn that is.

    3.5 years ago
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    35.8k Graingy

    kinda reminds me of HESH barn

    3.5 years ago
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