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5TH GEN - 4++ GEN CHALLENGE

5,598 RedFalcon  7.5 years ago

For those who are interested I have decided to host a competition out of sheer curiosity. The challenge is as thus; construct an aircraft with an air frame relating to real life 4++ Gen or 5th Gen aircraft.

- The aircraft must have the capability of both air to air and air to ground missions. Bonus points for both capabilities in the same mission.

- If the aircraft is of 5th Gen type, the air frames weapons must be either hidden in an internal bay or in a place were they would be hidden. (check the 5th gen on the left for example).

- The aircraft should have a wide variety of capabilities other than mission critical equipment. (eg. V/STOL, Carrier capability, etc).

- The aircraft should be around the same in terms of maneuvering as the two examples in the picture. (wing loading = ~30lbs/ft2, Thrust/Weight = 2 - 3.5).

Other than this, All is up to the creator. Let your imaginations run wild!!

For those who need inspiration, research the following planes:
- F/A-18E/F
- F-22
- F-35
- Euro fighter Typhoon
- Dassault Rafale
- Saab JAS 39
- Su-35
- T-50 PAK-FA
- J-20
- J-17

Spotlights

General Characteristics

  • Successors 11 airplane(s) +1001 bonus
  • Created On Windows
  • Wingspan 97.5ft (29.7m)
  • Length 50.7ft (15.5m)
  • Height 16.7ft (5.1m)
  • Empty Weight 11,102lbs (5,035kg)
  • Loaded Weight 21,376lbs (9,696kg)

Performance

  • Power/Weight Ratio 3.153
  • Wing Loading 31.6lbs/ft2 (154.2kg/m2)
  • Wing Area 676.9ft2 (62.9m2)
  • Drag Points 3334

Parts

  • Number of Parts 76
  • Control Surfaces 6
  • Performance Cost 1,147
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    5,598 RedFalcon

    Thanks for the support @DankDorito!

    7.4 years ago
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    9,481 Razor3278

    Idk why my plane didn't register as a successor :(
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    7.5 years ago
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    9,481 Razor3278

    I'm in. I'm still trying to make a proper weapons bay on my plane.

    7.5 years ago
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    39.1k phanps

    @RedFalcon ok sounds good

    7.5 years ago
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    5,598 RedFalcon

    Yeah @MASB29, I'll keep an eye on parts. No one get to crazy :)

    7.5 years ago
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    1,527 MASB29

    @RedFalcon of course, creativity will be much more fun to be made, but you category this challenge for 5th gen plane, well, I think you have to limit it to make it more authentic (and challenging, mwehehehhehehe) and please limit the parts, sometimes they abuse it

    7.5 years ago
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    5,598 RedFalcon

    @RAF1, Good choice! @phanps, only one will be scored against but feel free to share your creativity while you've got the chance!

    7.5 years ago
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    39.1k phanps

    how many uploads max?

    7.5 years ago
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    136k RAF1

    Indeed... something like an Su-30.
    @RedFalcon

    7.5 years ago
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    5,598 RedFalcon

    Thank you @RAF1 for the support! You planning on submitting something?

    7.5 years ago
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    5,598 RedFalcon

    @ShatSlanger, Not necessarily but it would be preferable if it could operate on as many devices as possible.

    7.5 years ago
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    5,598 RedFalcon

    You may be correct in some ways @MASB29 but the physics in simple planes engineering do not quite work the same as they do in real life. Due to the fixed thrust that is produced by the engines in SP and the values of lift produced by the wings (Especially as they change with different aerofoil designs) The values are amplified in simple planes. An F-22 replica in SP should be more maneuverable than in real life. However if you can make an aircraft maneuverable with those sorts of stats (with thrust vectoring or relaxed static stability) than it still has more of a chance to be recognized in this challenge. It's more for fun and creativity anyways.

    7.5 years ago
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    1,527 MASB29

    Thrust-to-weigh ratio of F-22, > 1.09 (1.26 with loaded weight and 50% fuel), it's a bit un realistic to make it to 3, I think it is the best that 2 is the limit, F-22's wing loading is 77.216 pounds / square foot, more than twice of your requirement, I think it is the best that 90 is the limit (3x your requirement)

    7.5 years ago
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    5,598 RedFalcon

    Thank you @PINK for the support!

    7.5 years ago
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    101k Wallaby

    @RedFalcon no problem!

    7.5 years ago
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    5,598 RedFalcon

    Thank you @ForeverPie!

    7.5 years ago
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    39.1k phanps

    @RedFalcon ayy np it'll be up somepoint today

    7.5 years ago
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    5,598 RedFalcon

    Awesome to here @phanps! Thanks for the support! Can't wait to see your submission!

    7.5 years ago
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    39.1k phanps

    im in mate! ;)

    7.5 years ago
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    5,598 RedFalcon

    Awesome @mikoyanster! Can't wait to see it!

    7.5 years ago
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    @RedFalcon i will send a plane of course!

    7.5 years ago
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    5,598 RedFalcon

    Just a reminder for all challengers that the submissions should be successors of this challenge plane. Do this by simply removing the cockpit from the 5th Gen (the one on the left), making it a sub assembly then placing it on your project. Or you could just delete the air frame around the cockpit and build around the cockpit. Good luck everyone!

    7.5 years ago
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    5,598 RedFalcon

    Thanks @Athaya! Can't wait to see what you come up with!

    7.5 years ago
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    5,598 RedFalcon

    Thanks @mikoyanster! I love your creations! Hope to see a submission from you!

    7.5 years ago
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    5,598 RedFalcon

    @hopotumon, thanks for the support! Hope to see you in the challenge!

    7.5 years ago
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