@ParziParziTheVal wow almost to 10k man!!

@APilotOfPlanes honestly I didn't realize the difference between a yoke and a stick till you said. Again I dont know as much as you so I didn't know these things before you started to tell me them. I thought it was around this size, this is pretty big man. I have realistic expectations for the speed of a plane and again I didn't know this stuff before so I couldn't have done these things you wanted me to do

@ParziParziTheVal I changed it lol

@ParziParziTheVal @PapaKernels
So,
1. Trim levers are on very old planes, and they are rare.
2. About what I mean by "stick": he claimed to have a stick in the plane, but yokes are present instead.
3. About the Catalina, don't you realize it is way larger than this?
4. 6500 drag points is too much for GA. It is private jet level. Also, remember that you don't take into account the general amount of drag; instead you go with whatever can get you to a realistic speed with realistic power. Also, you may have too high of an expectation for the speed of the planes.

@ParziParziTheVal I was watching a vid on youtube where they were in an old b17 and it had a trim lever, and that's what I'm talking about. I had no idea he was pilot in training, that's pretty sick not gonna lie. 6595 drag points for something this big is pretty good. It was at around 15000 before I started to decrease drag. Well what about the PBY Catalina? It was a reconnaissance float plane

@FeiWu I normally spend 2 hours a day in simpleplanes so I have alot of time to work on planes. I think the most time I spent on a plane was 1 week

@PapaKernels I hope you appreciate the constructive criticism. I am not saying You suck, so be it I am telling you how to improve.

@PapaKernels and about the 4000hp, just do calculateDrag false for smaller parts

@PapaKernels And where I wanted the wings isn't where you put it. If wings were always where the designers thought it would look best basically no planes would ever fly. Be rational.

@PapaKernels It is true, however, that your effort and build quality is increasing, as evident in your battleship. It looks really nice.

@PapaKernels About the time thing:
You only post twice a week? Wow. How many players actually post two or more high quality builds per week? Not that many. I usually spend two months or more working on my planes.

@FeiWu that's also where I wanted the wings, and I couldn't use a gyro. I sware whenever I dont want to use a gyro I need a gyro and any other time I dont need it

@FeiWu the game mechanics means that I needed it to be 4000hp to get it to the speed it needs. Bruh dont bust on me cause I dont know as much as you, I know enough to be dangerous but that's not it.

@FeiWu OK BUDDY LISTEN HERE I spent 15hour on this and this is the result. That is so un fair to tell me that I dont have quality builds. I try ok? I worked hard to get to the quality I'm at, and seriously I only post 1-2 planes a week but that's because I just have a lot of free time on the weekends to make planes. I make quality builds but you dont see that because all you see is some kid who made a submission to your challenge. I use the nudge tool alot, and I'm trying to understand the principles that I need to make stuff fly better. My next plane is really high quality and it seriously only took me 2 hours to make. The battleship I posted yesterday took me about 8hours just to do the main shape, and making the critiques took around 4 hours. Its highly un fair to tell me I don't make good stuff

@PapaKernels Some other problems I noticed in your description and the plane:
Do you know what a stick is?
Do you know what trim tabs are and how they work?
Why is there only one thrust lever?
Why is there a trim lever in place of a trim wheel where another throttle lever should be?
Do you know how overkill twin engines and 4000hp is for a two-seater? In comparison, the C172S produces 180hp and the DC3, in a comparable era, produces 2400hp and that's an AIRLINER.
I appreciate the effort, but I expected more effort and diligence when you submitted this plane. Sorry.
And @ParziParziTheVal what do you think of this plane? You're arguably a more experienced pilot lol

@PapaKernels And the stuff about trim:
You can just move the wings forward a bit. It seems like you either don't know the nudge tools, or you don't test your planes for some reason. Like your last plane you entered in the airliner challenge. That one doesn't even fly without a gyro.

@PapaKernels About your claims:
There is no rudder trim. Why do I have to hold it for so long? This is not even the yaw that we get irl. It is a lot more annoying.
Yes. We can use trim. But there's a problem with having to pull up even with FULL TRIM. So you think max speed is using full throttle forever? No. We don't use full thrust except during takeoff irl. Therefore using MAX TRIM is not enough even in cruise.
You had nearly a month to do this. I think some more effort would be better. ngl, you are one of those users who spam half-decent stuff frequently to get you here. I believe in quality over quantity.

@FeiWu well counter yaw,and that why you have trim, after take off and you get to around max speed full trim would be perfect. I had to skimp out in some places because it was getting caught up with the actual handling of the plane, I tried everything I could to make it this good so

@PapaKernels Grading time.
I don’t feel like giving detailed critiques for this, because of the obvious lack of effort that needs to be addressed in some places. The takeoff is risky at best because of the yawing and the plane constantly pitches down. Also, the pontoons and ailerons all have to clip through the wing for some reason. Not cool.

Performance - 20/40

Innovation - 5/30

Design - 15/25

Livery - 4/5

Description - 35/50

Total: 79/150

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@ParziParziTheVal this is going to be the format of my descriptions from now on so if you want to use this after I think you said xp you can do mine.

@ParziParziTheVal and yes dad joke

@ParziParziTheVal hahaha I forgot the underscore between papa and kernels soooooo darn

@ParziParziTheVal what? I dont SEA anything wrong with it

@Blue0Bull thank you sir!

@feiwu this is my entry. Hope it does well