move the weight distribution foward (Remove some of the weight from the rear, add to the front) to prevent wheelies. you can also add downforce to the front by angling a flat-bottomed wing set to preferably around 20% thickness
ill see what i can do, might take a few weeks though unless you arent looking for anything too complex. Do you want a open cabin design? one that can have an interior added in later? would you prefer a rear wing and/or canards? if so, any specific style?
just need some idea of what direction to go with the chasis.
hi, I'm planning to attempt to build my first car using the knowledge I've gained from modifying other builders cars. I want to make it a custom supercar based on the design of the New Gen Ford GT. I was wondering if there were any car building tips you could give me. any advice will help. (I'm almost certain the car will take me over a month, probably two or three, since I want to make sure it will look great and drive well)
@Shanethepain1 is the fixed version posted? ive never worked with a suspension design like that, only pushrod and double wishbones so id love to see how this one works
i couldnt fix it, since all the pieces are connected by hinges the entire thing basically functions as one complex rope so almost the entire thing would likely need to be redesigned to stiffen it, sorry
http://www.simpleplanes.com/a/ddBZs8/Shanethepain1-help
finished. the parts that are ruining it are highlighted but now there's another issue, the parts connected to the wheel aren't able to hold themselves up so the whole thing collapses. im going to post another one though with a possible fix for that and you can edit it however you need
ill actually highlight the parts in a really bright orange so you can see which ones were causing the issue and can remove them or make fixes based on that, i feel that would be more helpful
@Shanethepain1 youll have to stiffen the suspension or possibly redesign the chasis because i tested it and the structure just caves in since theres no support holding it up anymore
there is a bar that is connecting the very front horizontal rod to the horizontal upper rod (just above the shocks). that is preventing them from working. its essentially like putting the shock in a cardboard box, the shock isn't going to move, the box would move but since the box is solid none of it moves
https://www.simpleplanes.com/a/XsHdQ1/Aircraftarsenal123s-Lotus-T125-Exos-S1
never got confirmation from the suspension owner and didnt want to keep you waiting for so long so i just stripped the suspension from the car. there is the link in case you want to check it out.
https://www.simpleplanes.com/a/XsHdQ1/Aircraftarsenal123s-Lotus-T125-Exos-S1
sorry about the lack of suspension, the suspension owner never replied back and i didn't want to keep you waiting any longer. ill try to look around and find some pushrod suspensions or maybe do some testing and try my hand at building my own (probably the method im going to go with, easier because i can use it anytime)
like i said, compare it to other builds of the time and you'll find none other like it. and in case 7 months of being apart of this community wasn't enough to notice, the game gets occasional physics tweaks and after 5.2 years they've taken a toll on these old builds. and it isn't exactly smart to judge a build that you have yet to replicate from an era you were never a part of.
i didnt know you built this or i wouldve used the suspension here to avoid the wait for confirmation from the owner of the suspension i used XD. i might try to swap them if he doesnt reply back soon.
@FoxTwo because it was far ahead of its time. at the time this was built, creations like this were non-existent. there was no xml mod tool, you had to do that manually from the game files so very few people knew how. there weren't near as many parts and options as we have now so builds were seemingly limited but somehow he managed to create this marvel of a bird. that is why is is and forever will be the most upvoted build in SimplePlanes history. not only the looks but the handling as well. compare it to other builds from 5.2 years ago and none can compare.
great build. not sure if you know or not but using wings (make sure they are the ones with adjustable airfoil ie. symmetric, semi-symmetric, flatbottom) and angling them foward can create downforce and give your car more grip. you can do this to the rear wing to give it more understeer and to the front to make it more responsive and give it more oevrsteer. just a tip.
@R0ck072304 make sure you are using the right input method. some builders use pitch controls for their car engines (allows for reversing) while others use throttle (my preference). some may also use VTOL but its way less common.
@aircraftarsenal123 im going to wait until i get permission from the creator of the wheel i used and the suspension before i post. ill try to let you know when i post it. hope you enjoy it
hi, i used a recolored version of your steering wheel in an upgrade i did on Aircraftarsenal123's T125 and i was wondering if it would be OK if i used the posted the car using the wheel and credit you in the description (i will provide a link to the car here when it is posted). if you do not wish to accept, you can feel free to ignore this comment.
hi, i used this suspension (The one on the small car) in an upgrade i did on Aircraftarsenal123's T125 and i was wondering if it would be OK if i posted the car and credited you (i will provide a link to the car here when it is posted). your decision, you can freely ignore this comment if you do not wish for the suspension to be used.
@aircraftarsenal123 also, just an update, i recently replaced the suspension parts with a working pushrod suspension i found (ill have to go back and find the creator of it)
love the suspension, the car looks good. just a tip, you can make the rear wing and front wing out of the in-game wing parts to have them crate downforce, not sure if you already knew. (setting the wing to Flatbottom airfoil will provide the most downforce)
@aircraftarsenal123 i recolored it and edited alot of stuff (handling and performance, didnt do much else but paint for the looks because it looks good enough) but i re-built the floorboards and the diffuser entirely from flat-bottomed wing pieces to create ground effect and allow the diffuser to generate downforce, i created a DRS style system for the rear wing (Very simple one, AG8), i edited the suspension and grip values to make the car handle the way i wanted (personal preference), i added a steering wheel i sto- i mean borrowed from somebody else's car :). i edited the front wing a bit by tilting the small wings downwards a small amount and changing the airfoil to flatbottom to balance out the rear downforce. also used the new glass to add a small piece in front of the steering wheel that deflects air over upwards (dont know what its called on the real car). its probably going to handle like a slug for most people because i tuned it to fit my wheel setup.
if you add a wing part REALLY low to the ground and change the airfoil to flatbottom, it sucks the car to the ground (I assume that is what you are reffering to? if so then yes its possible)
the car flies because the rear downforce is very strong and is forcing the car into the air if it leaves the ground. you can fix that by either loering the rear downforce or adding downforce to the front to balance out the rear (I use the ramp near the gold prix raceway to test out downforce)
id have to see the DRS to know what the issue is there
forward grip is likely the culprit, too much makes the car accelerate very quickly and have higher top speeds
4.the wheels camber because the forces acting on the car (downforce) is pushing in into the ground heavily. you can fix that by either strengthening the suspension, removing the suspension, lowering the downforce, or cambering the wheels positive so they will not camber so far negative when the downforce sets in
move the weight distribution foward (Remove some of the weight from the rear, add to the front) to prevent wheelies. you can also add downforce to the front by angling a flat-bottomed wing set to preferably around 20% thickness
+3@Aviatorsunglasses yeah i read the desc, and you should be able to just type "Help" in the tags search bar and it should be there
it drifts pretty well, i might need to stop myself from goin all out and making this thing like 800 parts xd
ill see what i can do
try adding VTOL nozzles as a form of thrust vectoring to help with manuverability, but ill see what i can do
+1any rules on changing xml values like mass and drag?
im in
also, id reccomend you put the "Help" tag on the build, it will make it easier for people to find and help you out
ill see what i can do, might take a few weeks though unless you arent looking for anything too complex. Do you want a open cabin design? one that can have an interior added in later? would you prefer a rear wing and/or canards? if so, any specific style?
just need some idea of what direction to go with the chasis.
cool design, i love the rear bodywork and that smooth transition of the spoiler
+1@LoafOfBread keep trying, make the mistakes now so that you'll learn from them and they will no longer become your mistakes
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hi, I'm planning to attempt to build my first car using the knowledge I've gained from modifying other builders cars. I want to make it a custom supercar based on the design of the New Gen Ford GT. I was wondering if there were any car building tips you could give me. any advice will help. (I'm almost certain the car will take me over a month, probably two or three, since I want to make sure it will look great and drive well)
@Shanethepain1 is the fixed version posted? ive never worked with a suspension design like that, only pushrod and double wishbones so id love to see how this one works
@Shanethepain1 glad you got it working
@Shanethepain1 i cant figure it out, sorry
+1@Shanethepain1 yeah the hinges just above the axel might be the issue, I’m going to keep experimenting
+1@Shanethepain1 oooooh, i see now, ill see if i can figure out whats wrong
i couldnt fix it, since all the pieces are connected by hinges the entire thing basically functions as one complex rope so almost the entire thing would likely need to be redesigned to stiffen it, sorry
http://www.simpleplanes.com/a/ddBZs8/Shanethepain1-help
+1finished. the parts that are ruining it are highlighted but now there's another issue, the parts connected to the wheel aren't able to hold themselves up so the whole thing collapses. im going to post another one though with a possible fix for that and you can edit it however you need
ill actually highlight the parts in a really bright orange so you can see which ones were causing the issue and can remove them or make fixes based on that, i feel that would be more helpful
@Shanethepain1 youll have to stiffen the suspension or possibly redesign the chasis because i tested it and the structure just caves in since theres no support holding it up anymore
@Shanethepain1 sure, ill add a link when it posts
i can post a fixed version if you need me to clarify which part
+1there is a bar that is connecting the very front horizontal rod to the horizontal upper rod (just above the shocks). that is preventing them from working. its essentially like putting the shock in a cardboard box, the shock isn't going to move, the box would move but since the box is solid none of it moves
+1https://www.simpleplanes.com/a/XsHdQ1/Aircraftarsenal123s-Lotus-T125-Exos-S1
never got confirmation from the suspension owner and didnt want to keep you waiting for so long so i just stripped the suspension from the car. there is the link in case you want to check it out.
https://www.simpleplanes.com/a/XsHdQ1/Aircraftarsenal123s-Lotus-T125-Exos-S1
sorry about the lack of suspension, the suspension owner never replied back and i didn't want to keep you waiting any longer. ill try to look around and find some pushrod suspensions or maybe do some testing and try my hand at building my own (probably the method im going to go with, easier because i can use it anytime)
@aircraftarsenal123
@Juanfly154
like i said, compare it to other builds of the time and you'll find none other like it. and in case 7 months of being apart of this community wasn't enough to notice, the game gets occasional physics tweaks and after 5.2 years they've taken a toll on these old builds. and it isn't exactly smart to judge a build that you have yet to replicate from an era you were never a part of.
+6i didnt know you built this or i wouldve used the suspension here to avoid the wait for confirmation from the owner of the suspension i used XD. i might try to swap them if he doesnt reply back soon.
@FoxTwo because it was far ahead of its time. at the time this was built, creations like this were non-existent. there was no xml mod tool, you had to do that manually from the game files so very few people knew how. there weren't near as many parts and options as we have now so builds were seemingly limited but somehow he managed to create this marvel of a bird. that is why is is and forever will be the most upvoted build in SimplePlanes history. not only the looks but the handling as well. compare it to other builds from 5.2 years ago and none can compare.
+4@Juanfly154 im still waiting for confirmation from the creator of the suspension before i post but ill tag you and post a link here when i do.
@Juanfly154 ok thank you
great build. not sure if you know or not but using wings (make sure they are the ones with adjustable airfoil ie. symmetric, semi-symmetric, flatbottom) and angling them foward can create downforce and give your car more grip. you can do this to the rear wing to give it more understeer and to the front to make it more responsive and give it more oevrsteer. just a tip.
@R0ck072304 make sure you are using the right input method. some builders use pitch controls for their car engines (allows for reversing) while others use throttle (my preference). some may also use VTOL but its way less common.
@aircraftarsenal123 im going to wait until i get permission from the creator of the wheel i used and the suspension before i post. ill try to let you know when i post it. hope you enjoy it
hi, i used a recolored version of your steering wheel in an upgrade i did on Aircraftarsenal123's T125 and i was wondering if it would be OK if i used the posted the car using the wheel and credit you in the description (i will provide a link to the car here when it is posted). if you do not wish to accept, you can feel free to ignore this comment.
hi, i used this suspension (The one on the small car) in an upgrade i did on Aircraftarsenal123's T125 and i was wondering if it would be OK if i posted the car and credited you (i will provide a link to the car here when it is posted). your decision, you can freely ignore this comment if you do not wish for the suspension to be used.
@aircraftarsenal123 ok thanks, i'll post a link here in a few minutes, i just finished remodeling the DRS system.
@aircraftarsenal123 also, just an update, i recently replaced the suspension parts with a working pushrod suspension i found (ill have to go back and find the creator of it)
@costr приятно слышать, что ты в порядке.
Rally time
love the suspension, the car looks good. just a tip, you can make the rear wing and front wing out of the in-game wing parts to have them crate downforce, not sure if you already knew. (setting the wing to Flatbottom airfoil will provide the most downforce)
@carguy2007 XD
@aircraftarsenal123 i recolored it and edited alot of stuff (handling and performance, didnt do much else but paint for the looks because it looks good enough) but i re-built the floorboards and the diffuser entirely from flat-bottomed wing pieces to create ground effect and allow the diffuser to generate downforce, i created a DRS style system for the rear wing (Very simple one, AG8), i edited the suspension and grip values to make the car handle the way i wanted (personal preference), i added a steering wheel i sto- i mean borrowed from somebody else's car :). i edited the front wing a bit by tilting the small wings downwards a small amount and changing the airfoil to flatbottom to balance out the rear downforce. also used the new glass to add a small piece in front of the steering wheel that deflects air over upwards (dont know what its called on the real car). its probably going to handle like a slug for most people because i tuned it to fit my wheel setup.
4.5 years later and this is still an incredible build. 100% my favorite car i've run across.
if you add a wing part REALLY low to the ground and change the airfoil to flatbottom, it sucks the car to the ground (I assume that is what you are reffering to? if so then yes its possible)
4.the wheels camber because the forces acting on the car (downforce) is pushing in into the ground heavily. you can fix that by either strengthening the suspension, removing the suspension, lowering the downforce, or cambering the wheels positive so they will not camber so far negative when the downforce sets in
hope that helps even though im 5 months late
https://www.simpleplanes.com/a/2yyI4f/Ford-Gt-Race-Edition-Misc
here is the link (The lights glow red)