@EliteSteel Like honestly my job here is done. you understand how to make something maneuverable and fast. and you've built a plane you are truly proud of. do what ya want nao :3
You need to stop uploading other people's planes like this. putting engine s or just a gun or 2 on it. IS NOT CHANGING THE PLANE. THESE ARE NOT YOUR PLANES. you really need to stop.
Spamming engines, and adding random fuel tanks on an air craft does not make it different.
And it certainly does not warrent the ability to let you upload it as such.
its not bad if you modify it for your own use. just don't re upload unless you do any substantial changes that ACTUALLY CHANGE THE VEHICLE.
@LiamW here's how I work my suspension and it works perfectly. when I need to take suspension impacts better I increase dampening. when I need the base vehicle to hold higher (or withstand more down force) I increase spring strength. and it works.
@LiamW springs are also what push the vehicle back up after you take in impact on a suspension. which is why you need to balance out the springs so well. (if you can)
@LiamW dampening is what takes the impact. springs are what hold the vehicle up ontop of that. springs hold against overall stress on the suspension while dampener does sudden shocks.
@EliteSteel if its done right its technically 2 fuel blocks. 1 with 13 million gallons of fuel. the other one with what seems to be negative weight to balance it out. another use other than fuel I found is. if you remove the counter weight and let it weigh all 13 million gallons. it makes for a great anchor. keep any thing you want on the ground.
@EliteSteel there are ways but you'd also have to have a counter weight inside of it. I uh. do have an infinite fuel block with that. I coudl give it to you later when I get the chance.
@MrSev I'd have to say that's because of the weird design you're using here.
What I think is happening is that once you hit full pitch it partially starts to act like its pitching in the other direction but not enough to actually reverse its pitch direction. it can happen.
For starters you should learn how to english.
Pls mod this so that it infinitly spins, and shoots*
secondly go ask people on the forums instead of making a post. its a lot more likely to be seen by some one who could do it there.
that said. it won't be able to shoot ever. you'll need to put a gun in for that.
Another way to fix your problem, would be to add hinges on both sides of the shocks them selves. a lot more suspension setups work with this much better.
Problems with the design (as you didn't respond)
side ways mounted wheels. if this thing tips or hits a bump. those things are going to hit the ground and send you spinning.
No suspension. unless you design a vehicle in a specific way. you have to have suspension. this one is no exception.
Lack of down force or horizontal stability. Vehicles are honestly not the best at handling with out any help. so those are needed.
and I'm sure I could find more but I would have to test it. I'm just basing this off what happened in the tournament and what I can see in the base design.
At least you actually made some changes to it. I can't tell you how many times I just see a re upload of another creation with a lot of attention with nothing but like 10 engine strapped to it or something :P
@hopotumon rudder control does help. a lot. but its about how you design it at its base that really matters. the wheels them selves can do the job quite well. they simply can't control while you're in the air. and in an off road course with jumps like these. that hurts a lot.
@hopotumon no rudder input. no roll input. the wings only provide down force. the wheels are in 100% control of the rest.
Finished in the quarter finals of the tournament. only losing to a much better crafted racing machine.
@EliteSteel Like honestly my job here is done. you understand how to make something maneuverable and fast. and you've built a plane you are truly proud of. do what ya want nao :3
@EliteSteel if you want to sure
You need to stop uploading other people's planes like this. putting engine s or just a gun or 2 on it. IS NOT CHANGING THE PLANE. THESE ARE NOT YOUR PLANES. you really need to stop.
Spamming engines, and adding random fuel tanks on an air craft does not make it different.
And it certainly does not warrent the ability to let you upload it as such.
its not bad if you modify it for your own use. just don't re upload unless you do any substantial changes that ACTUALLY CHANGE THE VEHICLE.
@EliteSteel yep its gone
@LiamW well yea it works well. I just made changes that I thought should have been done on the unlisted one I put up.
@LiamW here's how I work my suspension and it works perfectly. when I need to take suspension impacts better I increase dampening. when I need the base vehicle to hold higher (or withstand more down force) I increase spring strength. and it works.
@LiamW every time I put dampening to high settings with out neccecarily needing them (like a slower off roader) it bounces. a lot.
@LiamW allright but that's not how it works in simple planes as I've found.
@LiamW springs are also what push the vehicle back up after you take in impact on a suspension. which is why you need to balance out the springs so well. (if you can)
@LiamW also no I didn't get it the wrong way around. Spring streanth max. keep dampener the same. try it. (or 150% spring)
@LiamW dampening is what takes the impact. springs are what hold the vehicle up ontop of that. springs hold against overall stress on the suspension while dampener does sudden shocks.
@LiamW well what you would want to do then is maximize the SPRING strength but not dampening.
@AndrewGarrison it is? I just hit the download button on a mod. clicked it to open. and its working in simple planes after I activated it perfectly :P
@Sniper16 I don't really undrestand what your're getting at here.
@LiamW I think you're getting this confused here. I'm talking about the suspension setting on the wheel its self.
@LiamW it really doesn't help in the end. especially with the settings maxed out. it just causes your suspension to bounce more.
@LiamW No what I"m talking about is the wheels them selves. you enabled suspension on them. you don't ened htat you have a shock system in place.
@LiamW one thing I would like to say is... the suspension on teh wheels them selves are uneeded... copmletely.
@LiamW Fairly nice. good use of my suspension segment. it travels nicly. it drives smooth. its just nice.
@LiamW give it a test. it does better with out suspension than with one that has max settings.
@Insertname allrighht good to know.
the guns don't clip the engine? usually from what I've found. you shoot the engine if your guns are hitting the propeller area.
@EliteSteel if its done right its technically 2 fuel blocks. 1 with 13 million gallons of fuel. the other one with what seems to be negative weight to balance it out. another use other than fuel I found is. if you remove the counter weight and let it weigh all 13 million gallons. it makes for a great anchor. keep any thing you want on the ground.
@EliteSteel there are ways but you'd also have to have a counter weight inside of it. I uh. do have an infinite fuel block with that. I coudl give it to you later when I get the chance.
@MrSev simple planes as weird physics with single wing designs like this
@EliteSteel well it is pretty well built. you've improved a ton from your first 3 unlisted designs you shown me. it deserves it :P
@MrSev I'd have to say that's because of the weird design you're using here.
What I think is happening is that once you hit full pitch it partially starts to act like its pitching in the other direction but not enough to actually reverse its pitch direction. it can happen.
@MrSev what are you talking about?
@EliteSteel that happens to almost every one. its alright.
@EliteSteel a bit of wobble in the yaw is fine really.
@MrSev what am I trying to figure out?
@birfur thought so.
For starters you should learn how to english.
Pls mod this so that it infinitly spins, and shoots*
secondly go ask people on the forums instead of making a post. its a lot more likely to be seen by some one who could do it there.
that said. it won't be able to shoot ever. you'll need to put a gun in for that.
Did you delete and re upload this? I remember seeing something like this earlier.
then why did you upload it? and if you were going to upload it. why do it public?
Another way to fix your problem, would be to add hinges on both sides of the shocks them selves. a lot more suspension setups work with this much better.
not sure if this classifies as a plane xD
@xXxMLGDOGE603xXx would make it faster but it needs to be able to hit those turns :P
can you be a bit more specific? you say it must have at least 2 of those wheels and 1 engine. can it have more? (wheels are obvous but mostly engine)
Putting a gun on a vehicle doesn't exactly do much to make it differnt.
Problems with the design (as you didn't respond)
side ways mounted wheels. if this thing tips or hits a bump. those things are going to hit the ground and send you spinning.
No suspension. unless you design a vehicle in a specific way. you have to have suspension. this one is no exception.
Lack of down force or horizontal stability. Vehicles are honestly not the best at handling with out any help. so those are needed.
and I'm sure I could find more but I would have to test it. I'm just basing this off what happened in the tournament and what I can see in the base design.
At least you actually made some changes to it. I can't tell you how many times I just see a re upload of another creation with a lot of attention with nothing but like 10 engine strapped to it or something :P
@marcox43 actually I've tested versions of this vehicle before. it is horribly unstable with more power.
all you did was put a bunch of engines on it. like... why?
@ChazeGames no there isn't
@hopotumon uh no, your vehicle has a whole list of problems.
@hopotumon rudder control does help. a lot. but its about how you design it at its base that really matters. the wheels them selves can do the job quite well. they simply can't control while you're in the air. and in an off road course with jumps like these. that hurts a lot.
@hopotumon no rudder input. no roll input. the wings only provide down force. the wheels are in 100% control of the rest.
Finished in the quarter finals of the tournament. only losing to a much better crafted racing machine.
@hopotumon no they do not. my tank turns with out a rudder. and it made it to the quarter finals. I'll give you a mention on it.