Thank you, I really appreciate it. I honestly don't mind that much. Unfortunately I've kinda of fallen out of touch with SP. Hopefully I'll get back into it once I'm less busy. @Rodrigo110
Thanks. It's really a starting project. And yeah, I figured it might not be what you expected. I don't think I'm intending to make much medal-like music outside of our band. I'm glad you enjoyed it! @Rodrigo110
@Rodrigo110 That's honestly fair. I'd be glad to have your opinion. I don't know that it's my favorite, but there are definitely moods or times were I'm into it. Our band started from the two of us meeting three times a week to workout, and medal can be pretty good workout music.
I'd love to share that with you, however, you'll have to be patient. I think my friend is definitely ready. I'm just not yet. We are still playing existing music and have not really started creating our own stuff yet (it'll come though). We've been most practicing with the German band Rammstein, so it's more medal/industrial medal. @Rodrigo110 As of my independent music, I could send you the one project I've "finished" but it's really not great. It's more of a beginner project. It's singing free and essentially just electrical (not that I dislike that genre or plan on never doing it again, but I want to explore different genres). I didn't even use a real instrument on it. If I share it though, I'm not going to share it out here, I'll probably do it on an unlisted post. It's currently a private SoundCloud file so only the link can access it and I'm kind of ashamed of it to put it here. If I ever actually make it public, I'll definitely have to change the name to something more original.
@Rodrigo110 Possibly. No plans set in stone yet, but very possibly.
I listened to you on Spotify. That's amazing. You sound great. I'm getting into music production (currently just using LMMS studios, although I'm planning on exploring FL studios). My friend and I also started a small 2 person ”band”. I say band in quotes because although he's played guitar for over 9 years, I'm not even 4 months into drumming (you can figure out my role based on that). I might also double as keyboardist.
@Someterribleuser I like the creativity of the idea, but I definitely don't think that should be a thing. 1. You should not rush new players 2. You should not incite them to grind for points 3. You should not put deadlines in games like this 4. There would still be many bronze + inactive users
@Horsepower No harm done. Pointing out flaws is just as important as pointing the good things. Thank you for the support and the recognition. I get your point about the point system, and I must recognize that it's really not a priority, just something worth thinking about. Really I'm not directly trying to incite change here, but just get people thinking.
@Horsepower I get that. I was not trying to approach this as a know it all. Sorry if I made that impression. I'm also aware that these are known problems, I just feel like they are not really being addressed enough, but that's my opinion. I also do agree that my ideal here is a unrealistic utopia of SimplePlanes, but trying to get closer to it is better than nothing.
For the point system, I would not necessarily call it a problem, nor was I aware if a recent rise in drama in its regard. I just felt like this was a sort of thing going on, that really happens beyond SimplePlanes and on a lot of website now, and that it sort of ruins parts of the games at time.
I agree that the problem does not completely lie in the toxic people, but I would not say that they are exempt from causing a problem. Those who easily get offended are essentially throwing fuel into the fire, thus that in some ways makes them part of the problem, but the random toxicity is what starts the fire. I would say that the problem is equally between the toxic people and those responding to them. Again, this is my opinion. And yes, those who respond to toxicity are indeed usually bad at listening. Will definitely not contest that.
I was not trying to make a big deal out of this stuff (and as I re-read it, I realize I kind of did...), I just felt like looking into these problems as a way to start looking for solutions, even if these are not priority problems.
@Horsepower I am trying to 1. Point out flaws that despite being obvious, don't always seem to be addressed (sorry if I am wrong), 2. Offer a few suggestions/solutions on a few of these problems, 3. Hear what people think about these.
If I were trying to just rack up points, I would be a hypocrite as this is one of the three topics I addressed, plus I would not turn to forum posts that give 2 points per upvote (last time I checked). I also do not get how this is supposedly "making myself look smart."
Edit: Also, out of simple curiosity, I checked out your stuff. You make cool stuff... but it seems that 80% of your posts are also forum posts with little true gain, especially the most recent ones... I would say that your comment is somewhat hypocritical...
@WarHawk95 Je viens de voir ton commentaire sur la toxicite des commentaire d'SP sur le post de l'autre qui se fout de la geule de ce qui quitte SP. Ceci te parleras surement.
@ParziParziTheVal Gotcha. Sorry for the misunderstanding. That's indeed a good idea. I don't think that this would be quite in the priority list of Jundroo's development, but if they ever need suggestions, this idea could be worth mentioning.
Thank you. It is indeed hard to find a fix for the upvote system. It has its psychological benefits as well as its harm. Maybe having more point colors with smaller gaps will remove the idea of stretching towards gold or platinum, thus partially fixing the issues... or it could worsen it might causing people to pay more attention to their points... hard to tell.
A large portion of users have indeed left SP, but I don't really think that their accounts should be removed. For example, I took a very long brake from SP, and I'm back, which might be the case for some people. I do see though why you would think this. Having a user list only containing active users could have its benefits. I just don't feel like inactive accounts are much of a hinderance, apart from flooding the user list, which the active user list would fix. But that's my opinion. I don't know if maintaining accounts has much of a financial burden in terms of servers for Jundroo, I would not expect it to. I just don't feel like it's a cool idea to delete accounts without informing users ahead of time. They could have a system that has a notification and a set amount of time to come back to prevent removal, similar to Google's inactivity system. Still an interesting idea. @ParziParziTheVal
@Nerfaddict I'm really sorry to hear that. I've got a bit of experience with that myself. I've moved between states and countries more time than I can count, each time having to start over, and I've had a share of that kind of friend. I know that this is easier said than done, and I don't know enough about your situation to be able to make much of it, but in my experience, 1 or 2 good friends is worth 10 times more then 20 bad "jock boy" friends. The issue of course can be to find that good friend. I wish you luck in that, and I'm here as a friend, even if we don't really know each other, and thus I can't be like a true real life friend,
If this is still unresolved, have you tried contacting a dev yet? Not only can they maybe help you, but they could also learn about a new bug or technical mess up.
@Nerfaddict I'm sorry to hear that you were sent down this path. I myself also tend to search for solitude and find that it is not great, but unlike you it seems, I've never gotten to the extreme. It's completely normal for people to accidently burry themselves down the rabbit hole, it's part of being human. The important thing is to be able to climb back out once you realize it. This often involves having someone else or others give you a hand back up. I find it funny that they dare mock you for not playing Fortnite (not haha funny), cause essentially what they are saying is, "you're playing a game that actually requires some critical thinking, has a lot of originality, and is actually quite educative and shows intelligence and creativity, and unlike us, you are not a sheep that has followed the herd into this game where all you do is aim a gun at another player and shoot, and that really is just a repetitive game without any real gain or critical thinking." I would not say that this curse of yours is irreversible at all. You just need to find a new group of people who will be real friends and won't judge you and leave you behind for no reason. Of course, this is to a limited extend on a website like SP, but you are not indefinitely alone. If you ever need SP help, or simply someone to talk to, count me in. I've also lost a lot of SP friends over the time, and I at least partially understand what you are going through with this.
Interesting. I was not aware of that. I'm sure that the automation of this mod-log would make it easier and more reliable however. But I am not a moderator, so I wouldn't know. It's nice that you consult other mods before acting. @Blue0Bull
Feels weird to look back. The nostalgia is almost overwhelming. @Rodrigo110
I certainly didn't expect to get brought back here after 4 years. 😂
I don't believe it actually had a virus. @JackRaiden
Thank you, I really appreciate it. I honestly don't mind that much. Unfortunately I've kinda of fallen out of touch with SP. Hopefully I'll get back into it once I'm less busy. @Rodrigo110
We've got an idea as to what a DBQ on some test will be in the future. @Chancey21
It's old but we still remember this. @Chancey21 @ACEPILOT109
+1@PvPSky The old username was getting old, especially with the 50 "i"s in it. Sorry for not communicating the name change.
+1Thanks. It's really a starting project. And yeah, I figured it might not be what you expected. I don't think I'm intending to make much medal-like music outside of our band. I'm glad you enjoyed it! @Rodrigo110
@Rodrigo110 That's honestly fair. I'd be glad to have your opinion. I don't know that it's my favorite, but there are definitely moods or times were I'm into it. Our band started from the two of us meeting three times a week to workout, and medal can be pretty good workout music.
I'd love to share that with you, however, you'll have to be patient. I think my friend is definitely ready. I'm just not yet. We are still playing existing music and have not really started creating our own stuff yet (it'll come though). We've been most practicing with the German band Rammstein, so it's more medal/industrial medal. @Rodrigo110 As of my independent music, I could send you the one project I've "finished" but it's really not great. It's more of a beginner project. It's singing free and essentially just electrical (not that I dislike that genre or plan on never doing it again, but I want to explore different genres). I didn't even use a real instrument on it. If I share it though, I'm not going to share it out here, I'll probably do it on an unlisted post. It's currently a private SoundCloud file so only the link can access it and I'm kind of ashamed of it to put it here. If I ever actually make it public, I'll definitely have to change the name to something more original.
@Rodrigo110 Possibly. No plans set in stone yet, but very possibly.
I listened to you on Spotify. That's amazing. You sound great. I'm getting into music production (currently just using LMMS studios, although I'm planning on exploring FL studios). My friend and I also started a small 2 person ”band”. I say band in quotes because although he's played guitar for over 9 years, I'm not even 4 months into drumming (you can figure out my role based on that). I might also double as keyboardist.
@Rodrigo110 That's amazing. I'm still in Missouri, but looking at moving back to Europe in a year. What's the name of the album?
Yes, that can indeed be challenging. I've actually started building planes around the cockpit for that. @MrGreen
Indeed it does... How have you been? I've been extremely inactive recently. @Rodrigo110
Nice. Well done. Looks awesome. @Nerfaddict
@Nerfaddict Interesting. I did not know that. I'll try that out eventually.
I should have trade-marked Maelstrom. (JK, I know this has nothing to do with my stuff)
Good job on the build. Looks really nice.
Wait, this might be a stupid question but how did you get 5 screenshots?
Looks awesome. @Nerfaddict
I am a mod maker. Have they made it on unity already?
Thank you for removing the curse... @KnightOfRen
@SuperMeteor Well said.
+1This is a purely fictional island that is located in the Atlantic Ocean (I of course made that up). @DenizLion
+1@Someterribleuser I like the creativity of the idea, but I definitely don't think that should be a thing. 1. You should not rush new players 2. You should not incite them to grind for points 3. You should not put deadlines in games like this 4. There would still be many bronze + inactive users
@ParziParziTheVal Cool. I've seen Ready Player One (wish I could say I read it... might read it if I find the time).
@ParziParziTheVal Ah. Now I get why this is personal for you.
@Horsepower No harm done. Pointing out flaws is just as important as pointing the good things. Thank you for the support and the recognition. I get your point about the point system, and I must recognize that it's really not a priority, just something worth thinking about. Really I'm not directly trying to incite change here, but just get people thinking.
I used concrete details. ;-) @EternalDarkness
@Horsepower I get that. I was not trying to approach this as a know it all. Sorry if I made that impression. I'm also aware that these are known problems, I just feel like they are not really being addressed enough, but that's my opinion. I also do agree that my ideal here is a unrealistic utopia of SimplePlanes, but trying to get closer to it is better than nothing.
For the point system, I would not necessarily call it a problem, nor was I aware if a recent rise in drama in its regard. I just felt like this was a sort of thing going on, that really happens beyond SimplePlanes and on a lot of website now, and that it sort of ruins parts of the games at time.
I agree that the problem does not completely lie in the toxic people, but I would not say that they are exempt from causing a problem. Those who easily get offended are essentially throwing fuel into the fire, thus that in some ways makes them part of the problem, but the random toxicity is what starts the fire. I would say that the problem is equally between the toxic people and those responding to them. Again, this is my opinion. And yes, those who respond to toxicity are indeed usually bad at listening. Will definitely not contest that.
I was not trying to make a big deal out of this stuff (and as I re-read it, I realize I kind of did...), I just felt like looking into these problems as a way to start looking for solutions, even if these are not priority problems.
@WarHawk95 Pour être honnête, c'est pareil pour moi. Je ne suis pas obsédé avec les points, mais je les ignore pas non plus.
@exosuit That could be true I suppose. But when I initially started playing a few years ago, it was not this bad. @exosuit
@WarHawk95 Cool. Qu'en penses-tu?
@WarHawk95 Pas de souci.
I know I'm late here, but this is quite underrated TBH.
@Horsepower I am trying to 1. Point out flaws that despite being obvious, don't always seem to be addressed (sorry if I am wrong), 2. Offer a few suggestions/solutions on a few of these problems, 3. Hear what people think about these.
If I were trying to just rack up points, I would be a hypocrite as this is one of the three topics I addressed, plus I would not turn to forum posts that give 2 points per upvote (last time I checked). I also do not get how this is supposedly "making myself look smart."
Edit: Also, out of simple curiosity, I checked out your stuff. You make cool stuff... but it seems that 80% of your posts are also forum posts with little true gain, especially the most recent ones... I would say that your comment is somewhat hypocritical...
+2I was unaware to what extend until Blue0Bull told me earlier in the comments. @Numbers
@SuperMeteor That's a valid point. I do agree now that complete removal should not be a thing at all after all.
+1@exosuit I agree, I would just say that this has become much more noticeable and has worsened, even if the problem has always existed.
@WarHawk95 Je viens de voir ton commentaire sur la toxicite des commentaire d'SP sur le post de l'autre qui se fout de la geule de ce qui quitte SP. Ceci te parleras surement.
@ParziParziTheVal No Problem.
@ParziParziTheVal Gotcha. Sorry for the misunderstanding. That's indeed a good idea. I don't think that this would be quite in the priority list of Jundroo's development, but if they ever need suggestions, this idea could be worth mentioning.
Thank you. It is indeed hard to find a fix for the upvote system. It has its psychological benefits as well as its harm. Maybe having more point colors with smaller gaps will remove the idea of stretching towards gold or platinum, thus partially fixing the issues... or it could worsen it might causing people to pay more attention to their points... hard to tell.
A large portion of users have indeed left SP, but I don't really think that their accounts should be removed. For example, I took a very long brake from SP, and I'm back, which might be the case for some people. I do see though why you would think this. Having a user list only containing active users could have its benefits. I just don't feel like inactive accounts are much of a hinderance, apart from flooding the user list, which the active user list would fix. But that's my opinion. I don't know if maintaining accounts has much of a financial burden in terms of servers for Jundroo, I would not expect it to. I just don't feel like it's a cool idea to delete accounts without informing users ahead of time. They could have a system that has a notification and a set amount of time to come back to prevent removal, similar to Google's inactivity system. Still an interesting idea. @ParziParziTheVal
@Nerfaddict I'm really sorry to hear that. I've got a bit of experience with that myself. I've moved between states and countries more time than I can count, each time having to start over, and I've had a share of that kind of friend. I know that this is easier said than done, and I don't know enough about your situation to be able to make much of it, but in my experience, 1 or 2 good friends is worth 10 times more then 20 bad "jock boy" friends. The issue of course can be to find that good friend. I wish you luck in that, and I'm here as a friend, even if we don't really know each other, and thus I can't be like a true real life friend,
@BuiltBionixInd10 I get that. Kinda same here TBH...
@Nerfaddict I'm not really blaming it on them, but they might still have an idea of what it's all about, even if it's not on their end.
If this is still unresolved, have you tried contacting a dev yet? Not only can they maybe help you, but they could also learn about a new bug or technical mess up.
@Nerfaddict I'm sorry to hear that you were sent down this path. I myself also tend to search for solitude and find that it is not great, but unlike you it seems, I've never gotten to the extreme. It's completely normal for people to accidently burry themselves down the rabbit hole, it's part of being human. The important thing is to be able to climb back out once you realize it. This often involves having someone else or others give you a hand back up. I find it funny that they dare mock you for not playing Fortnite (not haha funny), cause essentially what they are saying is, "you're playing a game that actually requires some critical thinking, has a lot of originality, and is actually quite educative and shows intelligence and creativity, and unlike us, you are not a sheep that has followed the herd into this game where all you do is aim a gun at another player and shoot, and that really is just a repetitive game without any real gain or critical thinking." I would not say that this curse of yours is irreversible at all. You just need to find a new group of people who will be real friends and won't judge you and leave you behind for no reason. Of course, this is to a limited extend on a website like SP, but you are not indefinitely alone. If you ever need SP help, or simply someone to talk to, count me in. I've also lost a lot of SP friends over the time, and I at least partially understand what you are going through with this.
Interesting. I was not aware of that. I'm sure that the automation of this mod-log would make it easier and more reliable however. But I am not a moderator, so I wouldn't know. It's nice that you consult other mods before acting. @Blue0Bull
Nice to see you too. @Rodrigo110
I'm afraid that if it's irl, an SP post can't do anything for you. In reality, mods have unlimited power on this Earth. @Belugasub
Yup. Hopefully I'll find time now... it's been 11 days again. @PvPSky
+1