Well compared to some of the allied tanks, they were a bit worse. But I suppose if you take into account what the Panther had over most allied vehicles it seems like a fair trade-off. Most tanks then had to tension the tracks very often, but as the German vehicles had a tendency to be very heavy and complicated, Panthers, Tigers, etc needed extra care. Also in the Russian winters, you'd have to clean mud out of the interlocking wheels VERY often in order to prevent it from freezing and jamming the wheels up @K2K
Ohhhh I see what you were saying ok. The KT’s gun was good, yeah, but I really don’t see a need, as the Panther was perfectly adequate both armor and gun. I guess if you just parked the Tiger 2 in a good defensive position you don’t need to worry about reliability xD but a chain is only as strong as its weakest link @ChrisPy
Panther wasn’t underpowered, just very unreliable. Before they were equipped with rev limiters, then could hit around 50kph, and for a 45 ton tank in the 40s, that was actually very good. And the KwK42 had a higher muzzle velocity than the 88 and with more penetration. I’d take a panther over tiger 100% of the time. The front plate of the panther was also effectively thicker. 80mm at around 50* angle @ChrisPy
The Tiger II was only really effective at defending, whereas the Panther was much faster, had totally sufficient armor, and more reliable. But if the question was asking realistically rather than 1 on 1, the T34 or M4 would win 100% @ChrisPy
In what way? Realistically or in a 1 on 1? Realistically, either the T-34 or M4 due to mass production. But 1 on 1, Panther 100%
Thicker effective armor than Tiger and better gun. Many people think the Tiger’s 88mm could penetrate more but that is false. On one occasion, a Panther SHOT THROUGH a dead M4 and killed one behind it. If Germany had somehow managed to produce the Panther on even half the scale of the T34, they would’ve most definitely held on longer
Having a strike made my day, makes me feel much better knowing that I upset someone over a petty internet comment that hurt nobody. Thank you very much sir for making my day :)
I’ve spent months cracking the code on how to make guided bombs that don’t have ANY change in speed and have ZERO smoke. I have a GBU-12 and GBU-28B on my page and they are super simple to make and use @Viper_Z3R0
All he explained was his overwhelming and crooked bias. Trying to tell me that the Eurofighter is “a rather bad European plane” when it’s one of the best multirole aircraft ever made... @Sovetskysoyus
Your bias is so obvious now 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 “EF2000, a rather bad European plane” IT’S ONE OF THE BEST EVER MADE WHAT ARE YOU SMOKING??? The French army is no where near the US army in the 21st century 🤣🤣🤣 surely this is satire please tell me it is @CharlesDeGaulle
Are you drunk? 😂😂😂 if Britain had still held the United States will all of her natural resources we would’ve had nuclear weapons even earlier and possibly had prevented the war almost entirely @CharlesDeGaulle
Mate I slapped together an AH-1 that was heavily based on the Gator base helicopter and it got featured xD anyway, this thing is just phenomenal...I can’t use it...but it looks like it would be phenomenal @edensk
So if Britain had fallen, America alone would’ve almost certainly lost on the Western Front and Germany would’ve turned full force to the Soviets and it’s probably 50:50 from there @Sovetskysoyus
When did I say you should like Britain? All I said is that Britain is better than France. (Are you American?) The only reason America was able to develop the Manhattan Project and fight a war was because of us. Ever heard of the British Tizzard Mission? Where Britain explained in details how to develop radar, jet engines, NUCLEAR WEAPONS, etc @Sovetskysoyus
No they didn’t want another foreign war so they wanted to stay out of it, but they had planes over the Atlantic pretty much 24/7 to keep an eye out for German subs, they just couldn’t open fire. With the French hold....🤣🤣🤣...holding the Germans...🤣...back? They didn’t do all that much effectively, yes many Frenchmen died, but they didn’t really do all that much to the 7th Panzer Bois. Yeah the British yeeted out of there, but that’s simply because the force there wasn’t really meant to “hold off the Germans” so much as “try to persuade them not to invade”, so they knew as soon as Germany entered Belgium on their way to France that they would be overrun @Sovetskysoyus
Almost only counts with horseshoes and hand grenades. If it wasn't for the rest of the Allies in WW2, especially Britain and America, you'd be speaking German @CharlesDeGaulle
💀💀💀 no way I DON’T BELIEVE YOU xD @realSavageMan
I hope this doesn't start another trend like the worm did like 2yrs ago...God that was 2yrs ago.......
+5This seems like it would look very nice if you follow the plan!
Mate!! This is so cool, well done
Ahh ok. Cool! @realSavageMan
Will the released version be equipped with the weapons IN the video or on the thumbnail? Or will the thumbnail version be a linked unlisted post?
What a beautiful video. This is what the internet was made for
+1Congratulations...
Imagine the mad lads at the meeting for that:
“Oi we need a new aircraft carrier”
“Hmm, but I want a new sub!”
“Meh, lets make both - combine them”
“Wha-?”
“I said combine them”
Lockheed lol
Bombing ru- what @idk201011323
Woah woah be careful with that profile pic, don’t wanna be attacked by the overlords
+3Well compared to some of the allied tanks, they were a bit worse. But I suppose if you take into account what the Panther had over most allied vehicles it seems like a fair trade-off. Most tanks then had to tension the tracks very often, but as the German vehicles had a tendency to be very heavy and complicated, Panthers, Tigers, etc needed extra care. Also in the Russian winters, you'd have to clean mud out of the interlocking wheels VERY often in order to prevent it from freezing and jamming the wheels up @K2K
I think I know who won the competition...you brought a nuke to a watergun fight
Yeah, but to be honest, we should be glad they failed xD @ChrisPy
Ohhhh I see what you were saying ok. The KT’s gun was good, yeah, but I really don’t see a need, as the Panther was perfectly adequate both armor and gun. I guess if you just parked the Tiger 2 in a good defensive position you don’t need to worry about reliability xD but a chain is only as strong as its weakest link @ChrisPy
Panther wasn’t underpowered, just very unreliable. Before they were equipped with rev limiters, then could hit around 50kph, and for a 45 ton tank in the 40s, that was actually very good. And the KwK42 had a higher muzzle velocity than the 88 and with more penetration. I’d take a panther over tiger 100% of the time. The front plate of the panther was also effectively thicker. 80mm at around 50* angle @ChrisPy
Sure @EternalDarkness
The Tiger II was only really effective at defending, whereas the Panther was much faster, had totally sufficient armor, and more reliable. But if the question was asking realistically rather than 1 on 1, the T34 or M4 would win 100% @ChrisPy
In what way? Realistically or in a 1 on 1? Realistically, either the T-34 or M4 due to mass production. But 1 on 1, Panther 100%
Thicker effective armor than Tiger and better gun. Many people think the Tiger’s 88mm could penetrate more but that is false. On one occasion, a Panther SHOT THROUGH a dead M4 and killed one behind it. If Germany had somehow managed to produce the Panther on even half the scale of the T34, they would’ve most definitely held on longer
I like democracy
Having a strike made my day, makes me feel much better knowing that I upset someone over a petty internet comment that hurt nobody. Thank you very much sir for making my day :)
+4“Ununited” is right 😂😂😂
+1I don’t see the problem here. Just appreciating the uncensored, fair, and equal democracy @EternalDarkness
Great @EternalDarkness
And flyable bombs would be pretty fun. Especially when bomb-tossing
This would be cool and much easier, but it somewhat detracts from the work of people like myself
I’ve spent months cracking the code on how to make guided bombs that don’t have ANY change in speed and have ZERO smoke. I have a GBU-12 and GBU-28B on my page and they are super simple to make and use @Viper_Z3R0
Well have fun being banned, it’s inevitable 😂 @Simps
+1Sweet! Take your time! ;) @Dimkal
I hate to nag, but how’s the progress?
I never argumented for the F-35, it’s worse than both the Rafale and Typhoon. Fine, lets @Sovetskysoyus
+1All he explained was his overwhelming and crooked bias. Trying to tell me that the Eurofighter is “a rather bad European plane” when it’s one of the best multirole aircraft ever made... @Sovetskysoyus
+1Your bias is so obvious now 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 “EF2000, a rather bad European plane” IT’S ONE OF THE BEST EVER MADE WHAT ARE YOU SMOKING??? The French army is no where near the US army in the 21st century 🤣🤣🤣 surely this is satire please tell me it is @CharlesDeGaulle
Are you drunk? 😂😂😂 if Britain had still held the United States will all of her natural resources we would’ve had nuclear weapons even earlier and possibly had prevented the war almost entirely @CharlesDeGaulle
Idk but the way he spelled it seemed like that @UltraLight
As in “Uss aff” or “you ess aye eff” @UltraLight
Very nice!
Mate I slapped together an AH-1 that was heavily based on the Gator base helicopter and it got featured xD anyway, this thing is just phenomenal...I can’t use it...but it looks like it would be phenomenal @edensk
Yeah this was originally about the navies wasn’t it... @Sovetskysoyus
So if Britain had fallen, America alone would’ve almost certainly lost on the Western Front and Germany would’ve turned full force to the Soviets and it’s probably 50:50 from there @Sovetskysoyus
They couldn’t have. Britain served both as an ally, and as a home base for the American bombers and such @Sovetskysoyus
When did I say you should like Britain? All I said is that Britain is better than France. (Are you American?) The only reason America was able to develop the Manhattan Project and fight a war was because of us. Ever heard of the British Tizzard Mission? Where Britain explained in details how to develop radar, jet engines, NUCLEAR WEAPONS, etc @Sovetskysoyus
We literally held a quarter of the Earth’s landmass in 1922, and that doesn’t include the water area 😂😂😂 @Sovetskysoyus
No they didn’t want another foreign war so they wanted to stay out of it, but they had planes over the Atlantic pretty much 24/7 to keep an eye out for German subs, they just couldn’t open fire. With the French hold....🤣🤣🤣...holding the Germans...🤣...back? They didn’t do all that much effectively, yes many Frenchmen died, but they didn’t really do all that much to the 7th Panzer Bois. Yeah the British yeeted out of there, but that’s simply because the force there wasn’t really meant to “hold off the Germans” so much as “try to persuade them not to invade”, so they knew as soon as Germany entered Belgium on their way to France that they would be overrun @Sovetskysoyus
Never. Britain>France @Sovetskysoyus
Vut uhh yoo dooing
+1Maybe go throughout their posts and upvote 25 different posts?? @WolfSpark
Ze Stronk Tonk @ZWLenning
Almost only counts with horseshoes and hand grenades. If it wasn't for the rest of the Allies in WW2, especially Britain and America, you'd be speaking German @CharlesDeGaulle