Good evening and welcome back. Can I be linked to an unlisted post of the scaled down crusader tank that you made? I don't have access to Fine-Tuner at the moment so I can't do it myself.
@HellRaiser
That still does not neglect the fact that your airforce lacks any air to air aircraft. Prop-attackers are economic and effective but their capability rarely exceeds CAS or light ECM. I am currently developing several advanced aircraft models that I am willing to share with you under our Military Pact.
@exosuit
I don't know where you are getting the first part. If you had read my text correctly, I had said that the original purpose of the feature system was to give recognition to new people, etc. However, nowadays it has strayed out of that original purpose as bland and tasteless builds are getting featured while other more complicated machines are ignored, if you had read my text correctly you would understand this. The moderators chose to feature the same type of build from the same person 3 times and therefore several users decided to evaluate this decision. The assumption that you have made that I am "double-crossing" myself is false. Yes, at one point in time the feature system allowed new users and other users to be recognized for their good builds but now only new users are granted features whether those builds have quality or not. Take in, for example, your "SPP-27A7M4". It exhibited great detail, a custom cockpit, custom gear, and an extremely thorough description. Therefore and so it was rightly featured. This is an example of the feature system doing its Job, providing recognition to good builds. However, this exhibits minimalist detail, a poor description, and little to no improvement from the last feature he had received (Keep in mind he has received 3 so far). Conclusively I can say there is a great imbalance between what can be considered feature worthy, and not feature worthy and I'm afraid some (not all) of the moderators have had trouble differentiating the two.
@Blue0Bull
Seeing how something works and then creating his own version of it.
I would say it's a bit further from stealing but that's up to you to decide.
In relation to my previous message I will abstain from participating any more discussions for tonight.
Since this discussion does not seem to be going anywhere as anyone who joins simple restates a point brought up by a previous user, I see no reason to push this discussion any further. Whoever this otayahiromo8211 is, may God guide him. And as @Blue0Bull said we should all focus on improving our own crafts so they do get featured rather than complaining why other crafts get featured. I myself have been debating this point for far too long, as it is currently 3:00 AM, so I rest my case. @ThePilotDude @DeezDucks
@Blue0Bull Yes and he was rightly banned for modifying bogdanx's harrier but that does not mean he has not produced great works of his own. His strategy is to see how specific types of builds are made and then his uses that to create his own. It's called reverse engineering. It is a real-world concept. It is how countries China, Russia, and various other countries create their military equipment.
@Blue0Bull
RussianAS was the first to comment on this issue therefore, he decided to make this post upon the creators request that we stop commenting on his post.
@DeezDucks
The argument is not about upvotes, I am absolutely fine with the number of upvotes it has. The real argument is whether it is deserving of a feature and if it is morally right for the moderators to feature user 3 consecutive times.
@Blue0Bull
I'm going to have to stop you right there as this will stem into a completely new debate entirely but I will link you to a few remarkable crafts he has made
@ChiChiWerx
It is all matter of perspective. You will not understand this because you have collected a couple of features yourself, and it was because they were feature-worthy crafts. They took time and dedication to make. But when multiple low part and low detail aircraft get featured consectutively then it will be a natural order for some of us to complain.
@ThePilotDude
True, they were not. However, us, as the player base have incorporated them into the actual mechanics of the game. Every last one of us knows in the back of their minds that upvotes are how this site works yet we resist the urge to admit it.
The factors you brought up are valid points, yet that is not always the case. A plane could have good presentation, good quality, good time of uploading (ex 6 pm, not 3 am), and good quality/part count yet it could still go recognized. The point that I am trying to prove is that although the feature system is a legitimate way to earn recognition, it is greatly flawed as planes that do not deserve the features are getting most of them, which presents great imbalances that will destabilize the community.
@ChiChiWerx
I would have let it slide if it was just one. Now that this user has been featured literally 3 times in a row, It's time to give someone else a chance. As @DrukenRaider said, this user really is not improving, for there is no variation in his designs. Then why do the mods keep featuring him? I apologize if we are being rude to him, but as the creator, he needs to be aware of this problem.
A prime example of what I was talking about. The details are phenomenal and I know that you put some real dedication into this. Yet, why does it only have 17 upvotes and 34 downloads? It's Simple. Somethings that don't deserve recognition overshadow the ones that do. But this doesn't mean you should lose morale. See, you tagged me to your tank, and this allowed me to see how awesome it is. You should try making teasers so that everyone else knows how awesome it is too. In this way, you will earn the recognition you deserve.
@Notaleopard
You flew right past the one point I was trying to prove in that long essay. I am not critiquing the aircraft itself, but the moderator's decision to feature it!
it into his own hands. He advertised, extensively. And what was he met with? Hate, violence, and slander. And before I knew it, he vanished. Whether it be willingly or unwillingly, I might never see him again. If baseless, repetitive builds like this continue to get featured, with all other creativity ignored, then this community will collapse, and the moderators will be powerless to stop it.
I am fully aware that the feature system was designed to give recognition to new players who build good machines. I will not argue that this fellow or his builds do not deserve any recognition, however, it is important to recognize that there are many other builders who pour time, sweat, and most importantly, dedication to their creations, some topping over hundreds and even thousands of parts. Do they deserve any recognition? Do they deserve any respect? Are those magnificent creations even noticed by the community? The list goes on. Now, let's return to the topic of hand. This P-47. As the description rightly says, this was an American Fighter-Bomber that saw action in the second world war. Now suppose I were a foreigner. Suppose I had little knowledge about what the P-47 actually was. Now, I know what you're going to say. "Oh, everyone knows what the P-47 was". But that's not the point I'm trying to prove. We all know what the P-47 was, but do we know it's top speed? Do we know its ceiling altitude? Oh, what caliber are the guns? How many sorties did it fly?. The bottom line is, the description lacks depth, it (greatly) lacks any information besides the main thing every one of us knows! Please! Put some detail into the description! Provide some background information, some details, some statistics! Now as for the plane, I see no reason to batter it any further. I see @RussianAS has done a brilliant job with that. I want to show you why the feature system has strayed to far out of the boundaries of its original purpose. "Hey dude look at this train dude! It's awesome I think it deserves a feature!" Moderator: "Nah man I'm gonna have to give it to this 188 part MiG". Now let me explain that in more detail. That train had a detailed cockpit and a full interior, and what does it get? A solid six upvotes! But that 188 Part MiG sure beats it, doesn't it?. A while ago there was a user called IRIAF. He was a good man, spoke poor English, but built awesome helicopters. He even taught me how to build them. One day he decided to upload his prized 700 part helicopter, that he had worked on for months! It picked up ground quickly and stood at a solid 40 upvotes. But IRIAF wasn't satisfied. He thought it deserved more, and so did I. Since the mods would not give him, the recognition it deserved, he decided to take i
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Good evening and welcome back. Can I be linked to an unlisted post of the scaled down crusader tank that you made? I don't have access to Fine-Tuner at the moment so I can't do it myself.
@HellRaiser
That still does not neglect the fact that your airforce lacks any air to air aircraft. Prop-attackers are economic and effective but their capability rarely exceeds CAS or light ECM. I am currently developing several advanced aircraft models that I am willing to share with you under our Military Pact.
@HellRaiser And I would highly recommend a transfer of airforce technology unless you are keen on fighting modern wars with World War 2 aircraft.
@HellRaiser To be quite honest the only desirable tank I see in your inventory is the T74A
@HellRaiser not for long
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@HellRaiser
I accept! I will tag you to a few of my Tank models.
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@exosuit
+3I don't know where you are getting the first part. If you had read my text correctly, I had said that the original purpose of the feature system was to give recognition to new people, etc. However, nowadays it has strayed out of that original purpose as bland and tasteless builds are getting featured while other more complicated machines are ignored, if you had read my text correctly you would understand this. The moderators chose to feature the same type of build from the same person 3 times and therefore several users decided to evaluate this decision. The assumption that you have made that I am "double-crossing" myself is false. Yes, at one point in time the feature system allowed new users and other users to be recognized for their good builds but now only new users are granted features whether those builds have quality or not. Take in, for example, your "SPP-27A7M4". It exhibited great detail, a custom cockpit, custom gear, and an extremely thorough description. Therefore and so it was rightly featured. This is an example of the feature system doing its Job, providing recognition to good builds. However, this exhibits minimalist detail, a poor description, and little to no improvement from the last feature he had received (Keep in mind he has received 3 so far). Conclusively I can say there is a great imbalance between what can be considered feature worthy, and not feature worthy and I'm afraid some (not all) of the moderators have had trouble differentiating the two.
Is it a Su-30?
I had abdicated from this discussion a while ago
+3@Blue0Bull
Seeing how something works and then creating his own version of it.
I would say it's a bit further from stealing but that's up to you to decide.
In relation to my previous message I will abstain from participating any more discussions for tonight.
Since this discussion does not seem to be going anywhere as anyone who joins simple restates a point brought up by a previous user, I see no reason to push this discussion any further. Whoever this otayahiromo8211 is, may God guide him. And as @Blue0Bull said we should all focus on improving our own crafts so they do get featured rather than complaining why other crafts get featured. I myself have been debating this point for far too long, as it is currently 3:00 AM, so I rest my case. @ThePilotDude @DeezDucks
+2@DrunkenRaider
And users who always maintain a steady stream of upvotes will do nothing to improve their builds as they don't see the need to.
@Blue0Bull Yes and he was rightly banned for modifying bogdanx's harrier but that does not mean he has not produced great works of his own. His strategy is to see how specific types of builds are made and then his uses that to create his own. It's called reverse engineering. It is a real-world concept. It is how countries China, Russia, and various other countries create their military equipment.
+1@Blue0Bull
RussianAS was the first to comment on this issue therefore, he decided to make this post upon the creators request that we stop commenting on his post.
@DeezDucks
The argument is not about upvotes, I am absolutely fine with the number of upvotes it has. The real argument is whether it is deserving of a feature and if it is morally right for the moderators to feature user 3 consecutive times.
@Blue0Bull
I'm going to have to stop you right there as this will stem into a completely new debate entirely but I will link you to a few remarkable crafts he has made
@ChiChiWerx
It is all matter of perspective. You will not understand this because you have collected a couple of features yourself, and it was because they were feature-worthy crafts. They took time and dedication to make. But when multiple low part and low detail aircraft get featured consectutively then it will be a natural order for some of us to complain.
@ThePilotDude
True, they were not. However, us, as the player base have incorporated them into the actual mechanics of the game. Every last one of us knows in the back of their minds that upvotes are how this site works yet we resist the urge to admit it.
The factors you brought up are valid points, yet that is not always the case. A plane could have good presentation, good quality, good time of uploading (ex 6 pm, not 3 am), and good quality/part count yet it could still go recognized. The point that I am trying to prove is that although the feature system is a legitimate way to earn recognition, it is greatly flawed as planes that do not deserve the features are getting most of them, which presents great imbalances that will destabilize the community.
+2@ChiChiWerx
I would have let it slide if it was just one. Now that this user has been featured literally 3 times in a row, It's time to give someone else a chance. As @DrukenRaider said, this user really is not improving, for there is no variation in his designs. Then why do the mods keep featuring him? I apologize if we are being rude to him, but as the creator, he needs to be aware of this problem.
The last part of my text is separated from the main part, the "it into his own hands one" is supposed to be connected to "he decided to take"
+2@Strikefighter04 @ChickenMcNuggets007
+6It's actually a Su-24 Fencer. (Albeit singled seated)
A prime example of what I was talking about. The details are phenomenal and I know that you put some real dedication into this. Yet, why does it only have 17 upvotes and 34 downloads? It's Simple. Somethings that don't deserve recognition overshadow the ones that do. But this doesn't mean you should lose morale. See, you tagged me to your tank, and this allowed me to see how awesome it is. You should try making teasers so that everyone else knows how awesome it is too. In this way, you will earn the recognition you deserve.
+1@Notaleopard
+1You flew right past the one point I was trying to prove in that long essay. I am not critiquing the aircraft itself, but the moderator's decision to feature it!
it into his own hands. He advertised, extensively. And what was he met with? Hate, violence, and slander. And before I knew it, he vanished. Whether it be willingly or unwillingly, I might never see him again. If baseless, repetitive builds like this continue to get featured, with all other creativity ignored, then this community will collapse, and the moderators will be powerless to stop it.
+2Dear Moderators
I am fully aware that the feature system was designed to give recognition to new players who build good machines. I will not argue that this fellow or his builds do not deserve any recognition, however, it is important to recognize that there are many other builders who pour time, sweat, and most importantly, dedication to their creations, some topping over hundreds and even thousands of parts. Do they deserve any recognition? Do they deserve any respect? Are those magnificent creations even noticed by the community? The list goes on. Now, let's return to the topic of hand. This P-47. As the description rightly says, this was an American Fighter-Bomber that saw action in the second world war. Now suppose I were a foreigner. Suppose I had little knowledge about what the P-47 actually was. Now, I know what you're going to say. "Oh, everyone knows what the P-47 was". But that's not the point I'm trying to prove. We all know what the P-47 was, but do we know it's top speed? Do we know its ceiling altitude? Oh, what caliber are the guns? How many sorties did it fly?. The bottom line is, the description lacks depth, it (greatly) lacks any information besides the main thing every one of us knows! Please! Put some detail into the description! Provide some background information, some details, some statistics! Now as for the plane, I see no reason to batter it any further. I see @RussianAS has done a brilliant job with that. I want to show you why the feature system has strayed to far out of the boundaries of its original purpose. "Hey dude look at this train dude! It's awesome I think it deserves a feature!" Moderator: "Nah man I'm gonna have to give it to this 188 part MiG". Now let me explain that in more detail. That train had a detailed cockpit and a full interior, and what does it get? A solid six upvotes! But that 188 Part MiG sure beats it, doesn't it?. A while ago there was a user called IRIAF. He was a good man, spoke poor English, but built awesome helicopters. He even taught me how to build them. One day he decided to upload his prized 700 part helicopter, that he had worked on for months! It picked up ground quickly and stood at a solid 40 upvotes. But IRIAF wasn't satisfied. He thought it deserved more, and so did I. Since the mods would not give him, the recognition it deserved, he decided to take i
+5Where's the ship weapons pack?
KEK I never knew it was even possible.
+2Underrated Sauropod
@SuperSix yes
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