@Helios2pro Hmm... Well, a flying wing aircraft could be fun, but I'd prefer not to try to model a real aircraft. Too easy to get caught up in making the model and not enough in making it fly, in my opinion...
Yeah, a fictional model inspired by a real aircraft is fine, though!
Wow, this is incredible! I can't think of a more amazing engine starting sequence than in the original Flight of the Phoenix. Only seven chances to start the engine, and after firing each time, the impulse mags clack as they desperately try to get their last lifeline to start... The engine stuttering as the pilot, an actual B-24 pilot during the war, struggles to get just the right fuel/air mixture... I watch that scene over again and again!
Even the remnants from the C-82? Awesome! Yeah, flying out of Bandit Airport feels pretty awesome!
@FrankieB I love uncontrolled airports myself, but a towered airport will give great experience! And, I remember visiting some controllers once in the tower (not for doing anything bad!) and they were all great guys. While one of them was telling me "We're not here to point out mistakes, just to promote safety" some guy on the radio called in the totally wrong place, and the controller said to me "See? He's nowhere NEAR downwind, but we know what he meant!" Anyway, have fun! It's an exciting hobby and maybe even a career!
@ThunderstormAerospaceIndustries @MikuKat Thanks for the ideas! However, I'm looking at something broader than specific airplanes. I'm looking for ideas that are more like "an aircraft that flies by doing this," etc.
@Helios2pro I'm not really sure because I have nothing to compare it to. The concept is so different that I think there would have to be more similar planes to be able to rate it.
@AmerigoB Still working on your idea! It's just hard to make an actual flying wing. I don't want to cheaply hide a bunch of control surfaces inside of stuff, so it makes things kind of hard!
@Areonautics3 Hmm... I could swear I made one before, but if I did, I must have deleted it or something. Yeah, I can try making a heavy bomber sometime!
@OtterOfToast I just experimented with actual wings attached to rotators again and used more rotators to control pitch, so I think I might be able to make a helicopter setup. I don't know if I can manage an Osprey sort of vehicle; using an engine instead of the wings on rotators is definitely a lot smoother (the wing method shakes like crazy!), but the propellers can only be so large. It looks like the largest they go is only 150 inches. I could use jets, but it would still look so weird to have something so huge have such comparatively small engines! The most viable option I can think of right now would be almost like an airliner, but with rotators attached to the wing roots. I'll keep experimenting, though. Definitely a good challenge!
@Sunnyskies Sure, that shouldn't be too difficult.
@Clawsome So, curved as in using several small wing sections to make a gradual curve instead of just one sweep? That shouldn't be too bad. In fact, I've got kind of a weird, futuristic star fighter-esque picture in my head.
@Helios2pro The plane is kind of hard to fly without yaw control, but having a bunch of vertical stabilizers definitely helps the design. My variable pitch design is almost completely unstable on its vertical axis since it has no vertical stabilizer of any sort (just trying it for fun!).
@Helios2pro I will once I refine it some more. Currently, it still has some issues. For slow speed, I would need to cut the power, and neither the thrust vectoring or variable pitch yaw control work well at lower RPM's.
@Helios2pro Yeah, I'm experimenting with that now. I actually got a system that kind of works by having two prop engines with manual propeller pitch control set to yaw. The propellers have a set pitch that is enough to get the plane off the ground, and yawing varies the pitch just enough to change it, but the engines have a problem overspeeding and turning the governor on won't let me throttle them properly. It's fun trying to find solutions, though!
Unfortunately, I don't think that the in-game physics allow it, but swept wings are supposed to help with vertical axis stability. If not, you can mount the engine on a hinge rotor and set the hinge control to "yaw" to basically have thrust vectoring control yaw.
I'm kind of surprised to see someone take it so seriously. I just wanted to make something to carry my specialty torpedos and I wanted to use propeller engines, and using the push-me-pull-you setup let me put multiple engines on the plane without taking up space on the wings.
Looks like the post is a little old. Not sure if you've solved it yet, but just in case...
What are your helicopter designs doing when flying?
@Helios2pro No problem.
@Helios2pro Hmm... Well, a flying wing aircraft could be fun, but I'd prefer not to try to model a real aircraft. Too easy to get caught up in making the model and not enough in making it fly, in my opinion...
Yeah, a fictional model inspired by a real aircraft is fine, though!
@Helios2pro Well, do you have anything in mind?
@Helios2pro Cool, sounds like a lot of fun!
@Helios2pro Hey, man, nothing much. I've been busy all summer... How have you been?
@TemDesBur Thanks a ton for both!
@AmerigoB Thanks!
@ElGatoVolador Yeah, I know that now! :)
I used the seat from the Gentle Flyer, so I guess the system thinks that it's a variation. Fascinating...
@AmerigoB There, I think I finally made something worth flying!
https://www.simpleplanes.com/a/l4I0F6/Flying-Wing-Concept
Wow, this is incredible! I can't think of a more amazing engine starting sequence than in the original Flight of the Phoenix. Only seven chances to start the engine, and after firing each time, the impulse mags clack as they desperately try to get their last lifeline to start... The engine stuttering as the pilot, an actual B-24 pilot during the war, struggles to get just the right fuel/air mixture... I watch that scene over again and again!
Even the remnants from the C-82? Awesome! Yeah, flying out of Bandit Airport feels pretty awesome!
Definitely a joy to fly! Low stall speed, very agile... And it looks like a Maule!
@FrankieB That is an excellent choice!
@RedBeard66 I LOVE slow flying planes. I will definitely check it out as soon as I can!
@FrankieB I love uncontrolled airports myself, but a towered airport will give great experience! And, I remember visiting some controllers once in the tower (not for doing anything bad!) and they were all great guys. While one of them was telling me "We're not here to point out mistakes, just to promote safety" some guy on the radio called in the totally wrong place, and the controller said to me "See? He's nowhere NEAR downwind, but we know what he meant!" Anyway, have fun! It's an exciting hobby and maybe even a career!
@FrankieB That's fantastic! Do you know if you will be flying out of a towered airport?
@MikuKat I like it!
@ThunderstormAerospaceIndustries @MikuKat Thanks for the ideas! However, I'm looking at something broader than specific airplanes. I'm looking for ideas that are more like "an aircraft that flies by doing this," etc.
@Helios2pro Got it, and no problem!
@Sunnyskies Thank you!
@Sunnyskies Thanks!
@Sunnyskies Here is the craft you suggested! It was more difficult than I thought. Good suggestion!
https://www.simpleplanes.com/a/7A2yrK/Inverto
@destiny1122 Hehe, awesome!
@destiny1122 I couldn't agree with you more!
Definitely an interesting design. I like how you used fuselages to give the wing some shape!
Definitely an odd flying experience. Lots of adverse yaw!
@Helios2pro I'm not really sure because I have nothing to compare it to. The concept is so different that I think there would have to be more similar planes to be able to rate it.
@AmerigoB Still working on your idea! It's just hard to make an actual flying wing. I don't want to cheaply hide a bunch of control surfaces inside of stuff, so it makes things kind of hard!
@Areonautics3 Hmm... I could swear I made one before, but if I did, I must have deleted it or something. Yeah, I can try making a heavy bomber sometime!
@OtterOfToast I just experimented with actual wings attached to rotators again and used more rotators to control pitch, so I think I might be able to make a helicopter setup. I don't know if I can manage an Osprey sort of vehicle; using an engine instead of the wings on rotators is definitely a lot smoother (the wing method shakes like crazy!), but the propellers can only be so large. It looks like the largest they go is only 150 inches. I could use jets, but it would still look so weird to have something so huge have such comparatively small engines! The most viable option I can think of right now would be almost like an airliner, but with rotators attached to the wing roots. I'll keep experimenting, though. Definitely a good challenge!
@Sunnyskies Sure, that shouldn't be too difficult.
@Clawsome So, curved as in using several small wing sections to make a gradual curve instead of just one sweep? That shouldn't be too bad. In fact, I've got kind of a weird, futuristic star fighter-esque picture in my head.
@Helios2pro The plane is kind of hard to fly without yaw control, but having a bunch of vertical stabilizers definitely helps the design. My variable pitch design is almost completely unstable on its vertical axis since it has no vertical stabilizer of any sort (just trying it for fun!).
@Helios2pro I will once I refine it some more. Currently, it still has some issues. For slow speed, I would need to cut the power, and neither the thrust vectoring or variable pitch yaw control work well at lower RPM's.
@MikuKat Go for it.
@Helios2pro Yeah, I'm experimenting with that now. I actually got a system that kind of works by having two prop engines with manual propeller pitch control set to yaw. The propellers have a set pitch that is enough to get the plane off the ground, and yawing varies the pitch just enough to change it, but the engines have a problem overspeeding and turning the governor on won't let me throttle them properly. It's fun trying to find solutions, though!
I had thrust vectoring work for pitch, at least.
@AmerigoB Hmm... That is definitely a good idea. I love low stall speed planes. Let me see what I can do when I get the chance..
Unfortunately, I don't think that the in-game physics allow it, but swept wings are supposed to help with vertical axis stability. If not, you can mount the engine on a hinge rotor and set the hinge control to "yaw" to basically have thrust vectoring control yaw.
@Areonautics3 @MasterMindIndustries Hehe, just messing with you guys, but I did want to make sure.
@Areonautics3 Aw, man, alright.
@Areonautics3 Would you mind if I feature this in a video?
Glad to see someone having fun with the plane!
I'm kind of surprised to see someone take it so seriously. I just wanted to make something to carry my specialty torpedos and I wanted to use propeller engines, and using the push-me-pull-you setup let me put multiple engines on the plane without taking up space on the wings.
I'll check it out when I have the chance!
@TemDesBur Hey, man, thanks!
@TemDesBur Whoa, thanks a ton, man!
@SkrillEclipse It does very well for its purpose.