@Pilotgoose a good thumbnail, combined with a good challenge idea, will attract many participants.
When I had the same amount of points as you did, I posted my Never Built Challenge and it got overwhelming support, despite being my first one.
The trick for making challenges is: Letting people have freedom in building. When making a challenge, try making it as broad as possible, so that people have more choices in building. And the challenge should preferably have options to build either military or civilian planes, although military challenges usually get more attention.
Additionally, a mistake you made is making people build it for your company. Don’t do that; people want to build planes for themselves, so they don’t want to feel like they’re obligated to you.
I guess you just have to do a little self-reflection and think about what you really like. More often than not, even the smallest things can be helpful.
For me, I’m a rather narcissistic person and believe me, there have been a lot of times when I’ve been really down. One thing I learn is that eventually, you just get over it, and find happiness from what you have.
Now, even though my parents have essentially banned me from playing SimplePlanes for the next 2 months so that I have time to study (although I still have the weekend nights), I don’t really feel upset or depressed. Why? Because I gain happiness from the little things.
Drawing (mostly planes and trains), talking to my friends, watching movies with my family at night, and even looking forward to sleeping in on the weekends; all those are small things. But sometimes, they’re enough to keep me up and running.
(also yes it took me 20 minutes to write this)
@Kangy love how you didn’t advertise your own plane lol.
Also this is happening because “best” is very subjective, since everyone thinks their plane is the best.
@Neruneten21 I’d say that this is the best VR plane, but ultimately it’s up to your preference.
Just scroll through the VR tag and favourite all the planes you like. The ones on the highest of all time page are the most detailed ones; otherwise they wouldn’t have gotten 300+ upvotes.
No words can describe how great this plane is. From the pictures, the interior looks decent, and the livery has been done extremely well for a fictional livery. Hope you get at least 40 upvotes for this!
Word of advice: next time, just post a cockpit block. Doing so forces participants to actually be creative and not copy off your original cake.
Also, I won’t be able to join the challenge, due to a lack of time and motivation; hope you’ll understand.
I mean, many of FLC’s top people got arrested for committing fraud, market manipulation and appropriation of properties.
Also, FLC still has a stake in Bamboo Airways; it’s just that it’s no longer the dominant stakeholder.
@The26thMeowng why is it that your comment reminds me of those War Thunder players who leak classified documents because the plane/tank “isn’t realistic enough”
@Super737 the mods are owned by third parties and copyright belongs to them, hence I don’t think it’s legally possible to implement them into the base game.
The reason Overload and Fine Tuner are in the base game is because WNP78 actually got hired as a dev.
An analogy: Making a replica is like building a Lego set using the instructions, while making a fictional plane is like starting from scratch with a pile of spare bricks and your imagination.
@Sm10684 alright, I don’t have the capacity to argue anymore, and I’m starting to see insight in your point.
But one last thing: if you really wanted the SP devs to respond to this, why couldn’t you have just tagged all of them from the start? If Andrew doesn’t respond, even WNP78 is still quite active! And like you said, even a reply from the devs would shut everyone here up!
@Sm10684 I don’t think the devs are the kind of people who post without announcing a new feature, because they are not giving up on their passion, and want to work on it too. The last thing they want is to say that they are giving up, which is basically what delaying means.
@Sm10684 alright; your point is that Jundroo isn’t paying attention to its games. But the question is: can it?
Jundroo is not Microsoft, Rockstar or EA. It is an indie game company, with a team of less than 10 people, all of which have to not only fix thousands of bugs and research new features, but have to handle their families. They have lives, you know.
Big game companies delay features because they’re stingy, while indie companies simply don’t have the capacity to. Jundroo falls in the second category, not the first.
@Sm10684 yes, maybe the User Voice here feels neglected, but so is Juno’s. You can look at their roadmap and see that 90% of the suggestions there are labelled as “shelved”. Even the Juno users complain about this exact thing.
My point? Delays aren’t exclusive to SimplePlanes. Game dev is not easy and from my experience with creating, both here and outside SimplePlanes, there are always some annoying things that prevent what you want from being completed, because real life is immensely complicated. At least appreciate what the SP devs have managed to will into existence; it definitely wasn’t a smooth road. I addressed this before, and I’ll do it again.
@Sm10684 you may be a car builder, but remember that this at heart is an airplane game, even though car parts exist, and hence this game is treated as such. Otherwise, it wouldn’t have kept its name.
@Sm10684 you constantly say that the SP devs have abandoned the game.
So what? Does it hinder your ability to play the game in any way? Does it prevent you from creating masterpieces? If it were just about SP being neglected, you wouldn’t complain so much.
You want the devs to pay more attention to SP. What happens when they do that? A new update.
Hence, isn’t this your ultimate goal? Besides, you yourself have just admitted that you like the idea of a new update.
That one person who downloaded it:
Also, click on the left/right arrow at the top of the fuselage editor and you can change the width and height of the fuselage, and use fuselage cutting.
“we don’t have anything to share at the moment” = we’re not currently working on it.
Go read my original comment that explains why this is not the case.
Also, like Strucker said, even if there was a new update, would it make you want to play it more? I doubt so. Just give yourself a few months after the next update, and you’ll be whining for the next one.
And before you complain about what you don’t have, be grateful for what you do. Just 2 years ago, there was no glass fuselages, fuselage cutting, joysticks, seats, realistic cockpit windows, gauges, levers, switches and text labels. Heck, 2 updates before that, there weren’t even helicopter rotors, and Overload was still a mod! All this features, that you get to enjoy now, are what users of the past lacked, so be grateful for what you have.
And this brings me to my last point: you have forgotten what SimplePlanes really is: a building game. True builders do not play SimplePlanes to get hyped up on new features every year, but because they enjoy building! Look, remember how I mentioned all those parts not existing just a couple of years ago? How, then, have so many users managed to keep on building all these years, without quitting? It is because they enjoy building. Only those who really enjoy building will be able to put in their maximum effort into making their creations, despite all the challenges that surround them. Even now, this spirit of overcoming SimplePlanes’s constraints lives on. Just look at the hundreds, even thousands, of vanilla tank tracks that have been made. All the while, people complain on every single one of Andrew’s posts for Jundroo to add tank tracks into the base game. You can see the obvious difference between the two parties: the ones who complain endlessly, and the ones who actually do something, because they play SimplePlanes to build!
So, I don’t know why you should get all whiny about Jundroo not posting updates. It may not be the point of this forum post, but I can see from your narcissistic comments saying “oh, the devs have abandoned us”, “oh, SimplePlanes is dead”, that the party that you’re on is obvious; the one who complains without doing anything. Remember all those people who waited 4 whole years for fuselage cutting, yet continued to produce masterpieces nevertheless.
No, rest assured that development is not dead. I know we've been quiet on SP for a while, but we just don't have anything to share at the moment. Game dev is a slow process with many dead ends.
If that doesn’t mean “we’re working on it”, I don’t know what does.
@Pilotgoose a good thumbnail, combined with a good challenge idea, will attract many participants.
When I had the same amount of points as you did, I posted my Never Built Challenge and it got overwhelming support, despite being my first one.
The trick for making challenges is: Letting people have freedom in building. When making a challenge, try making it as broad as possible, so that people have more choices in building. And the challenge should preferably have options to build either military or civilian planes, although military challenges usually get more attention.
Additionally, a mistake you made is making people build it for your company. Don’t do that; people want to build planes for themselves, so they don’t want to feel like they’re obligated to you.
I guess you just have to do a little self-reflection and think about what you really like. More often than not, even the smallest things can be helpful.
+6For me, I’m a rather narcissistic person and believe me, there have been a lot of times when I’ve been really down. One thing I learn is that eventually, you just get over it, and find happiness from what you have.
Now, even though my parents have essentially banned me from playing SimplePlanes for the next 2 months so that I have time to study (although I still have the weekend nights), I don’t really feel upset or depressed. Why? Because I gain happiness from the little things.
Drawing (mostly planes and trains), talking to my friends, watching movies with my family at night, and even looking forward to sleeping in on the weekends; all those are small things. But sometimes, they’re enough to keep me up and running.
(also yes it took me 20 minutes to write this)
@HoshimachiSuiseiMyBeloved sameeee
+1Took you long enough
+1When loading the aircraft in-game, move the VTOL (left) slider up
+1Only 8000 parts?
+1@TinyMaus being in contact with the late DeezDucks, I have gathered some information about the new game. The name of the new Jundroo game is-
@Kangy ALL HAIL @ADNERW
+2@CobrasFumantes use this tutorial.
+3Also, use Overload to set the door’s
disableAircraftCollisionstofalse. That should solve it.@Skyler101 ah yes
@V I don’t think it has
@Kangy love how you didn’t advertise your own plane lol.
+1Also this is happening because “best” is very subjective, since everyone thinks their plane is the best.
@Neruneten21 I’d say that this is the best VR plane, but ultimately it’s up to your preference.
+2Just scroll through the VR tag and favourite all the planes you like. The ones on the highest of all time page are the most detailed ones; otherwise they wouldn’t have gotten 300+ upvotes.
No words can describe how great this plane is. From the pictures, the interior looks decent, and the livery has been done extremely well for a fictional livery. Hope you get at least 40 upvotes for this!
+2Word of advice: next time, just post a cockpit block. Doing so forces participants to actually be creative and not copy off your original cake.
Also, I won’t be able to join the challenge, due to a lack of time and motivation; hope you’ll understand.
@TinyMaus anything controversial is bound to have people ranting in the comments.
+3Also the update thing’s kinda been resolved already
Oh yeah, I think my classmate’s grandfather oversaw the development of this
I mean, many of FLC’s top people got arrested for committing fraud, market manipulation and appropriation of properties.
Also, FLC still has a stake in Bamboo Airways; it’s just that it’s no longer the dominant stakeholder.
@The26thMeowng why is it that your comment reminds me of those War Thunder players who leak classified documents because the plane/tank “isn’t realistic enough”
+2We already have hyper realistic planes here, despite the game being marketed as “simple” lol
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@Super737 the mods are owned by third parties and copyright belongs to them, hence I don’t think it’s legally possible to implement them into the base game.
+7The reason Overload and Fine Tuner are in the base game is because WNP78 actually got hired as a dev.
@TheUnkownGamer fyi, vanilla tank tracks do exist, such as this one
+1@Karzigg it’s out of Jundroo’s control; blame Google and Apple for not having mod support.
+3@FinnAatrox doesn’t ThrottleResponse already exist as an XML variable
+2@jamesPLANESii juno new oranges 💀💀💀
+9@Sm10684 he has done it
I KNEW ITTTTTTTTTTT
Next up: nights over Maywar
An analogy: Making a replica is like building a Lego set using the instructions, while making a fictional plane is like starting from scratch with a pile of spare bricks and your imagination.
Easily the most well-made XB-70 here
+2What’s next? Evenings in Snowstone?
+1Reload the tab?
If it still doesn’t work it’s probably your wonky internet again
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I need this
+1@AlivePan bruhhhhhhhh
But it is your streaming year so
@Sm10684 aight.
Also I don’t see anywhere in the rules that says you can’t tag devs. In fact, there have been some posts that have gotten official responses from devs.
@Sm10684 alright, I don’t have the capacity to argue anymore, and I’m starting to see insight in your point.
But one last thing: if you really wanted the SP devs to respond to this, why couldn’t you have just tagged all of them from the start? If Andrew doesn’t respond, even WNP78 is still quite active! And like you said, even a reply from the devs would shut everyone here up!
@Sm10684 I don’t think the devs are the kind of people who post without announcing a new feature, because they are not giving up on their passion, and want to work on it too. The last thing they want is to say that they are giving up, which is basically what delaying means.
@Sm10684 alright; your point is that Jundroo isn’t paying attention to its games. But the question is: can it?
Jundroo is not Microsoft, Rockstar or EA. It is an indie game company, with a team of less than 10 people, all of which have to not only fix thousands of bugs and research new features, but have to handle their families. They have lives, you know.
Big game companies delay features because they’re stingy, while indie companies simply don’t have the capacity to. Jundroo falls in the second category, not the first.
@Sm10684
yeah, then why don’t I see people complaining that they can’t build their planes?
@Sm10684 yes, maybe the User Voice here feels neglected, but so is Juno’s. You can look at their roadmap and see that 90% of the suggestions there are labelled as “shelved”. Even the Juno users complain about this exact thing.
My point? Delays aren’t exclusive to SimplePlanes. Game dev is not easy and from my experience with creating, both here and outside SimplePlanes, there are always some annoying things that prevent what you want from being completed, because real life is immensely complicated. At least appreciate what the SP devs have managed to will into existence; it definitely wasn’t a smooth road. I addressed this before, and I’ll do it again.
@Sm10684 you may be a car builder, but remember that this at heart is an airplane game, even though car parts exist, and hence this game is treated as such. Otherwise, it wouldn’t have kept its name.
+1@Sm10684 you constantly say that the SP devs have abandoned the game.
So what? Does it hinder your ability to play the game in any way? Does it prevent you from creating masterpieces? If it were just about SP being neglected, you wouldn’t complain so much.
You want the devs to pay more attention to SP. What happens when they do that? A new update.
Hence, isn’t this your ultimate goal? Besides, you yourself have just admitted that you like the idea of a new update.
That one person who downloaded it:
+1Also, click on the left/right arrow at the top of the fuselage editor and you can change the width and height of the fuselage, and use fuselage cutting.
I see this and the first thing I think of is KLM
+1@CoachPickles86 you want the company to go bankrupt?
Congratulations, you have surpassed me.
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+1@Sm10684
Go read my original comment that explains why this is not the case.
Also, like Strucker said, even if there was a new update, would it make you want to play it more? I doubt so. Just give yourself a few months after the next update, and you’ll be whining for the next one.
And before you complain about what you don’t have, be grateful for what you do. Just 2 years ago, there was no glass fuselages, fuselage cutting, joysticks, seats, realistic cockpit windows, gauges, levers, switches and text labels. Heck, 2 updates before that, there weren’t even helicopter rotors, and Overload was still a mod! All this features, that you get to enjoy now, are what users of the past lacked, so be grateful for what you have.
And this brings me to my last point: you have forgotten what SimplePlanes really is: a building game. True builders do not play SimplePlanes to get hyped up on new features every year, but because they enjoy building! Look, remember how I mentioned all those parts not existing just a couple of years ago? How, then, have so many users managed to keep on building all these years, without quitting? It is because they enjoy building. Only those who really enjoy building will be able to put in their maximum effort into making their creations, despite all the challenges that surround them. Even now, this spirit of overcoming SimplePlanes’s constraints lives on. Just look at the hundreds, even thousands, of vanilla tank tracks that have been made. All the while, people complain on every single one of Andrew’s posts for Jundroo to add tank tracks into the base game. You can see the obvious difference between the two parties: the ones who complain endlessly, and the ones who actually do something, because they play SimplePlanes to build!
So, I don’t know why you should get all whiny about Jundroo not posting updates. It may not be the point of this forum post, but I can see from your narcissistic comments saying “oh, the devs have abandoned us”, “oh, SimplePlanes is dead”, that the party that you’re on is obvious; the one who complains without doing anything. Remember all those people who waited 4 whole years for fuselage cutting, yet continued to produce masterpieces nevertheless.
@TheCommentaryGuy and what’s happening now is the exact opposite of that lol
@Sm10684
If that doesn’t mean “we’re working on it”, I don’t know what does.
it's a PV-
nvm, they beat me to it
+1