@nwa too bad. I was about to convert it to my standard layout of VTOL down=flaps, VTOL up = VTOL nozzles, and make tht nozzles turn backwards 20° for braking. Guess I will have to post my own plane now.
There has been a post about this on propeller effectiveness and apparently the most effective way to increase propeller performance is to increase the diameter, then to increase the number of blades, then on a distant third place, to increase the thickness. So yes, propeller thickness does help with performance but not so much that you should consider making your plane look ugly by giving it an impossibly thick prop. Just play with the thickness to make your prop look believable and esthetic and don't worry too much about performance
That being said, there is a whole science on making props extremely short and extremely thin to simulate the screws on ships. But then again this is purely esthetic also since props don't work under water.
Ps, it flies better when you delete the fuel in the wings and instead add one fuel tank under the engine. One 20 gal.tank is enough. Just to.get the center of gravity down
Nice design. Love the use of two 'intakes' in the engine exhaust. However what's the deal with the brake on the ailerons? You should put the brake on the flaps instead and change the direction so that on braking the inner flaps move down and the outer flaps move up.
Ps, I noticed that the right wheel is set a bit further after than the left. If you are a purist, feel free to give both wheels an equal z-value directly upon downloading.
I love it... As a design. Unfortunately it is almost twice as big as the original (Wikipedia says the wingspan of a real life Ki-61 is 39 ft) and a tad slow for a WWII fighter as well.
@SimplyElegant: took the liberty to improve a little on the flying characteristics. Uploaded the plane as 'private'because I don't want to ride on your laurels. So take a look and do with it what you want.
@TheBoeingPerson It's a side effect of the 'map' function in the view menu (the tip left button after clicking the eye on the main menu). Originally it was designed to show blueprints behind your plane to help building scale models. However you can also post screenshots of your plane in flight and use that as a background when taking your images while uploading.
I saw you changed the 'brakeTorque' on the wheels from 50 to 5. Does that really help keeping the plane from rolling over when braking? Or did you use some other design trick like placing the wheels way forward of tht center of gravity?
I would wish a camera on the driver's seat and steering set to 'roll' (right hand joystick) rather than 'Yaw' (left hand) but I stand in awe at the look of this thing, with barely 100 pieces.
Really? I had a test flight with that plane he sent me. There were so many beginners errors in it that I cannot believe it was anything but a clumsy attempt at grabbing some likes. In retrospect, now I know for sure he just reposted something without even bothering to make a final test flight.
Put a speed limiter on it so it won't go faster than 30mph, but then make the front wheels bump. This thing has 'cruising lowrider' written all over it. I can't even drive this one without whistling that song
Also, when you mirror a wing, your flaps will go up on one wing and down on the other because SP took them for ailerons. You really have to test them on the runway and invert the direction by hand where you in order to get both flaps down when you want them.
Psst, to be counted in a challenge, you have to build your plane around the cockpit given in that challenge. This is how 'successor' works in SP. So delete your cockpit and save the rest of the plane as a 'subassembly'. Then download the cockpit HERE and attach it to your plane.
And while we're at it. If I can have one request: make a fixed landing gear that looks like it is borrowed from a Matchbox car. Pretty much just a resizable wheel on a flattened fuselage block. The plane will look much more Toylike that way.
You might want to try your hands on this toy plane challenge . This plane already looks like a toy so if you make something like this and just paint it in toy colors rather than camouflage, it will not be the least interesting of all submissions.
Besides, Santa Claus is counting on you....
Also, posting in challenges is the best way to get noticed as all other participants and interested builders keep checking out the other entries for inspiration.
I'm playing on a mobile phone. So I really can't switch until SimplaPlanes2 is available for Android. Even if I had a good gaming PC at home, I wouldn't know if I would want to actively withdraw to a computer room or game corner just to make my planes. If I wanted that, I could just as well go build a balsawood model airplane in my garage.
The P.stands for Project. According to Lippish's own biography, this was a design study for a dour-engined bomber or transporter he and his team made for the 'Department L' at Messerschmitt.... Mostly to keep themselves busy while the development of the Me.163 was entering a slow phase.
@SimplyElegant
'labels' are on the bottom of the 'cockpit Interior' tab. Originally only designed to put 'labels' on the different switches and lights, someone quickly figured out that you could also use it to print serial numbers on tail planes and wings and then someone figured out that if you put 3 'dots' of different size on top of each other, you basically get a 3-color cockade. (Hope I'm spelling that right.) So long story short: you can use labels to put texts or serial numbers on wings and fudge the special symbols such as +, ° , and . To make insignias.
For practical applications, feel free to look at any of my airplanes and copy what you want. The Corgy has a n actual RAF roundel you can borrow
You can still join tht challenge. You won't get any points, but your plane will show up as a successor and be listed with all the other 25-part planes.
The short version to get the plane into the competition is to just detach the cockpit, then save the plane -without cockpit- as a subassembly. Then download the cockpit from the challenge, and add the plane you just saved to that one. Simpleplanes looks at the cockpit to determine'successors' and by building your plane on your previous one, you made it a successor to that.
Nice little retro plane with the look and feel.of an old plastic toy. Flies quite well too, although pay attention landing, the prope are really close to the ground. If your props keep exploding after the third try, use overload editor to make your landing gear bigger
@nwa too bad. I was about to convert it to my standard layout of VTOL down=flaps, VTOL up = VTOL nozzles, and make tht nozzles turn backwards 20° for braking. Guess I will have to post my own plane now.
+1There has been a post about this on propeller effectiveness and apparently the most effective way to increase propeller performance is to increase the diameter, then to increase the number of blades, then on a distant third place, to increase the thickness. So yes, propeller thickness does help with performance but not so much that you should consider making your plane look ugly by giving it an impossibly thick prop. Just play with the thickness to make your prop look believable and esthetic and don't worry too much about performance
That being said, there is a whole science on making props extremely short and extremely thin to simulate the screws on ships. But then again this is purely esthetic also since props don't work under water.
Ps, it flies better when you delete the fuel in the wings and instead add one fuel tank under the engine. One 20 gal.tank is enough. Just to.get the center of gravity down
Ever thought of using a gyroscope, not for steering, but just for stabilizing?
Nice design. Love the use of two 'intakes' in the engine exhaust. However what's the deal with the brake on the ailerons? You should put the brake on the flaps instead and change the direction so that on braking the inner flaps move down and the outer flaps move up.
Ps, I noticed that the right wheel is set a bit further after than the left. If you are a purist, feel free to give both wheels an equal z-value directly upon downloading.
@Hooha12 ok. So your build DOES deserve my upvote
I love it... As a design. Unfortunately it is almost twice as big as the original (Wikipedia says the wingspan of a real life Ki-61 is 39 ft) and a tad slow for a WWII fighter as well.
Don't know why you are using fixed pitch, but it looks great.
@SimplyElegant ok. Got it deleted. I swear I thought I posted it as private
@SimplyElegant: took the liberty to improve a little on the flying characteristics. Uploaded the plane as 'private'because I don't want to ride on your laurels. So take a look and do with it what you want.
https://www.simpleplanes.com/a/q9EiWx/SimplyElegant-Island-Hopper-Reworked
@Hooha12 interesting choice.
So this aircraft has basically two sets of wings and stabilos on top of each other? One blue and one gray?
@IRISHAEROSPACEGROUP yea, I told you I would make a cockpit and cargo space.
@IRISHAEROSPACEGROUP hold off in upvoting the plane yet..a version with VR cockpit and cargo doors is coming up in a couple of days
Aww... Sh't. My half-finshed project won by virtue of its paint job....
(Honestly, I can't find no other reason)
@TheBoeingPerson It's a side effect of the 'map' function in the view menu (the tip left button after clicking the eye on the main menu). Originally it was designed to show blueprints behind your plane to help building scale models. However you can also post screenshots of your plane in flight and use that as a background when taking your images while uploading.
This video explains it all in detail
I saw you changed the 'brakeTorque' on the wheels from 50 to 5. Does that really help keeping the plane from rolling over when braking? Or did you use some other design trick like placing the wheels way forward of tht center of gravity?
+2Doors that fall off included?
+1I would wish a camera on the driver's seat and steering set to 'roll' (right hand joystick) rather than 'Yaw' (left hand) but I stand in awe at the look of this thing, with barely 100 pieces.
Looks more like a Playmobil plane to me, but has a nice Playability.
Any plans to build one in SP?
+2@QuesoAirlines yes, I recall those: "The flying car, next year in your garage?"... They were showing articles like that at least since 1950.
+1Really? I had a test flight with that plane he sent me. There were so many beginners errors in it that I cannot believe it was anything but a clumsy attempt at grabbing some likes. In retrospect, now I know for sure he just reposted something without even bothering to make a final test flight.
+2Put a speed limiter on it so it won't go faster than 30mph, but then make the front wheels bump. This thing has 'cruising lowrider' written all over it. I can't even drive this one without whistling that song
Also, when you mirror a wing, your flaps will go up on one wing and down on the other because SP took them for ailerons. You really have to test them on the runway and invert the direction by hand where you in order to get both flaps down when you want them.
Psst, to be counted in a challenge, you have to build your plane around the cockpit given in that challenge. This is how 'successor' works in SP. So delete your cockpit and save the rest of the plane as a 'subassembly'. Then download the cockpit HERE and attach it to your plane.
And while we're at it. If I can have one request: make a fixed landing gear that looks like it is borrowed from a Matchbox car. Pretty much just a resizable wheel on a flattened fuselage block. The plane will look much more Toylike that way.
Càn you rotate everything 90 degrees? If you do, it can be used as a hangar and tower for Wright North Runway
You might want to try your hands on this toy plane challenge . This plane already looks like a toy so if you make something like this and just paint it in toy colors rather than camouflage, it will not be the least interesting of all submissions.
Besides, Santa Claus is counting on you....
Also, posting in challenges is the best way to get noticed as all other participants and interested builders keep checking out the other entries for inspiration.
Congratulations. You've come quite a way in one month. Curious on what you will build a year from now.
+2For having no name, it is actually pretty lifelike to the real life [name redacted]. Congratulations.
Great. I'll start by imagining how to put palettes of freight into a fuselage, then build an aircraft around that.
Is the challenge still open? I noticed you changed it half way, so did you update the time as well?
I'm playing on a mobile phone. So I really can't switch until SimplaPlanes2 is available for Android. Even if I had a good gaming PC at home, I wouldn't know if I would want to actively withdraw to a computer room or game corner just to make my planes. If I wanted that, I could just as well go build a balsawood model airplane in my garage.
+3The P.stands for Project. According to Lippish's own biography, this was a design study for a dour-engined bomber or transporter he and his team made for the 'Department L' at Messerschmitt.... Mostly to keep themselves busy while the development of the Me.163 was entering a slow phase.
+1@Seeras thanks
Form over function definitely, but I love it.
+1This just needs a 1950's paint scheme in sky blue and light green. I can see it popping up on Aeroflot posters from that area.
+1@seeras This plane is a contender for the Santa Claus needs Toy Planes challenge. Can you please make it a successor to this
@SimplyElegant
'labels' are on the bottom of the 'cockpit Interior' tab. Originally only designed to put 'labels' on the different switches and lights, someone quickly figured out that you could also use it to print serial numbers on tail planes and wings and then someone figured out that if you put 3 'dots' of different size on top of each other, you basically get a 3-color cockade. (Hope I'm spelling that right.) So long story short: you can use labels to put texts or serial numbers on wings and fudge the special symbols such as +, ° , and . To make insignias.
For practical applications, feel free to look at any of my airplanes and copy what you want. The Corgy has a n actual RAF roundel you can borrow
Made just a little refit with a bigger tail plane and a longer landing gear. Hope you like it. Click HERE to see it.
@ChaseRacliot yea, the name is a bit misleading, but it is a toy plane, even if I would have wished for some battle of Britain decals
+1Love the diecast feel of it. Definitely got that right.
Ps, I got into trouble with physics too when I experimented with 'model' gliders. Especially the engine part
Would have made the floats bigger, but otherwise a pretty solid build. Congratulations for making Silver
You can still join tht challenge. You won't get any points, but your plane will show up as a successor and be listed with all the other 25-part planes.
Just as good a toy as the other one.
No problem. I can request an admin to add it.
The short version to get the plane into the competition is to just detach the cockpit, then save the plane -without cockpit- as a subassembly. Then download the cockpit from the challenge, and add the plane you just saved to that one. Simpleplanes looks at the cockpit to determine'successors' and by building your plane on your previous one, you made it a successor to that.
Looks like the French Sud-Est 4500 Vautour, only a lot chubbier
+2This one actually looks as if it could have been made out of pressed tin. Congratulations
+1Nice little retro plane with the look and feel.of an old plastic toy. Flies quite well too, although pay attention landing, the prope are really close to the ground. If your props keep exploding after the third try, use overload editor to make your landing gear bigger