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@BoganBoganTheMan Unfortunately/fortunately (depending on how you look at it) it's not. Pretty sure that song is about the horrible things Nazis did in WW2.
@Mmdben the fuel system doesnt need to account for change of angle. And even if it does, it would would be nowhere near the scale of that of a tilt wing. Although, tilt synchronization would be needed, it's not a difficult thing to achieve and wouldn't require the redesign of an entire system to implement, like the fuel system in a tilt wing.
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I agree nothing is simple when your dive into the details. But there's one thing following that logic and another appearing on someone's post and telling them you think they're wrong.
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To be clear, I don't personally have any issues here, there's nothing wrong with a healthy debate. But, I will respond accordingly if someone tries to start a debate on my post.
@Mmdben I think the argument for tilt wing design being more complex is justified.
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Tilt wing is more complex because:
- fuel system needs to account for change in wing angle.
- has to be designed so prop wash over the wings is included to prevent stalling
- you're tilting the whole wing. The mechanism needs to be able to compensate for the extra weight as well as how the wing interacts with the fuselage when tilting.
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By contrast, you don't really need to do any of that with tilt rotor.
@Mmdben
1. I stated This is arguably, in theory, the easiest way of achieving VTOL through thrust vectoring. But If I wanted to be petty about it, either a standard helicopter or an avrocar would be the easiest way of, in theory, achieving VTOL. But again, I was talking about thrust vectoring and didn't feel the need to include them as their thrust vectoring capability is negligible at best. I nearly included the avrocar because of it's control system, but decided against it as it wouldn't add much to the article and in principle its very similar to 3D thrust vectoring.
2. I think I had that in my original article. But I dumbed it down severely after you published yours so I could fit in all the other stuff without the article becoming too tedious to read. I'll be honest, this article isn't my greatest work. It was originally on par with my previous stuff, but now it's a bit of a Frankenstein's monster. Not my best work.
3. Fixed it.
4. I was talking about thrust vectoring, with less emphasis on VTOL which is why I included it.
5. No. The original Word document was overwritten by this one.
@Randomdoggo I glossed over them briefly in types of jet engine. I feel like the concept of them was too similar to that of a turboprop though, so I didn't go into a lot of detail. The only major difference is the inclusion of a swash plate and the components that compliment it and those aren't turbo shaft specific as they're used on reciprocating engine powered helicopters too.
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@randomusername Uranium in reality would make for a terrible choice for a fuel. If something catastrophic happens to one of the systems, you can potentially cause a an environmental catastrophe as the uranium will still be active even after a crash.
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Thorium on the other hand requires an external element in order for fission to occur, making it a lot more suitable and safer to slap into an aircraft. You could eaily implement an ejection system to eject the thorium in the event of a crash, meaning the thorium would no longer be radioactive.
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It is a concept I'd like to see be explored by the aviation world, but given the negative (and quite frankly unfair) stigma surrounding nuclear power, it's unlikely those that aren't knowledgeable about nuclear power would want to get on a thorium powered airliner.
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As ever, it's the consumer market which is holding back the innovation the civilian aerospace industry so desperately needs.
@Viper3000ad It's because a lot of people normally consider these things boring to learn about. If I try to talk about these topics with people they look a bit visibly bored and then I just feel simultaneously awkward and disappointed in them.
@BACconcordepilot technically, that is driven by a piston engine and thus not really a jet engine in the true sense. I was going to include motorjets in the piston power stuff for part 4. As you say, it's closer to a ducted fan than it is a jet.
@Jim1the1Squid how does that make it any better? You still openly accused a moderator of doing something on your profile. By definition, it's stirring up drama and against the rules.
@Jim1the1Squid while I appreciate you're frustrated, I'm not sure taking it out on a moderator is a a great way to diffuse it.
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You can make a news story on anything so long as it follows the rules. Spread good news that isn't politically charged or something.
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Unfortunately, I'm just a moderator, not a Brainstormer.
@Noname918181 I'm just kidding. It's pretty difficult making things like this interesting to the casual observer. I do try and make an effort to make reading it somewhat less tedious.
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@Jim1the1Squid " I'm not 100% sure there's a definitive way to becoming a mod. sometimes you have to apply to be one, other times the devs will just independently ask you."
@Jim1the1Squid honestly, I'm not 100% sure there's a definitive way to becoming a mod. Sometimes you have to apply to be one, other times the devs will just independently ask you.
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These days I think they look for users that have took around for a very long time and have been consistently active throughout that time.
@SledDriver also there's at least 4 (from a brief search, courtesy of Tully) other active users on the site that use it as an easy way of spacing paragraphs. Even other moderators. But I guess they're also me too.
@SledDriver yes it is. However, one could assume that you're implying the opposite. So to address any doubts you may have:
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For a start when I debate people, I debate. I don't lose sight of the objective and I don't deviate from the line that leads to it unless the opposition throws a curve ball that needs to be addressed.
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And I certainly don't resort to direct insults. To an observer, your credibility is lost the moment you resort to insults, regardless of how good your point is because it shows your morals have weak points. And if your morals are questionable then it's possible that the intentions of your argument are too.
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For this very reason, I don't debate to change the mind of the person I'm debating. I debate to change the mind of an observer that's on the wall, spectating the argument. That way I'm morally in the clear, providing I also put forward a good argument.
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Besides, Andrew would likely revoke my status as a moderator if I was to engage in such behaviour on the site. And I'd likely lose some respect from the moderators.
@SledDriver @spaceyoter it would seem that there's beef between you two. While I'm not one for personally discouraging debating on the site, it does get a bit much when both parties resort to insulting each other.
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Whether it's insinuating one takes "reading comprehension classes" or calling people a "lazy sloth", it objectively comes under the category for being unfriendly to one another and perhaps borderline bullying. This obviously isn't tolerated on the site.
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Normally I'd issue a strike for such behaviour, but since this seems to have regressed from a normal (and presumably well intentioned) debate, it's a matter of interpretation on who the culprit is in this scenario. So I'll let you both off the hook on this occasion. However, please bear in mind, myself or the other mods may not be so lenient in the future.
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Also @SledDriver if you're going to remove comments on your posts, I highly advise you to delete your responses to your comments in future as it leaves little to interpretation and some might say it even defeats the point of deleting them, especially when you're making direct quotes to them. As a result, you may find it negatively impacts how other players see you. Whether you personally care about that or not is up to you, but it makes our jobs as moderators easier when potential for hate towards other players is kept to a minimum.
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@Viper3000ad Avgas is used in piston engine aircraft, although that's likely to change in the future due to environmental concerns. Jet A1 is most commonly used for commercial jet powered aircraft, although Jet B is used in cold climates due to lower freezing point. I think JP8 fuel is used for military aircraft,.
@Dinoairplanes I haven't got plans for a new one anytime soon. Lacking the motivation to get one finished. I made a few ones to test out some unity tools, but I never got them to a state where I could release them.
@TheLatentImage I flew yours just before, before I made the final tweaks on this. And it is a fun aircraft to fly. The VTOL works great on it and its a smooth flight. About to take it out for another spin.
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@AndrewGarrison thank you! Could I get a steam key for SimplePlanes?
@BoganBoganTheMan Unfortunately/fortunately (depending on how you look at it) it's not. Pretty sure that song is about the horrible things Nazis did in WW2.
@Zanedavid yeah, I know. Don't worry, when spawned in game the legs adjust to what's pictured at the bottom of the description.
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@Mmdben the fuel system doesnt need to account for change of angle. And even if it does, it would would be nowhere near the scale of that of a tilt wing. Although, tilt synchronization would be needed, it's not a difficult thing to achieve and wouldn't require the redesign of an entire system to implement, like the fuel system in a tilt wing.
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I agree nothing is simple when your dive into the details. But there's one thing following that logic and another appearing on someone's post and telling them you think they're wrong.
.
To be clear, I don't personally have any issues here, there's nothing wrong with a healthy debate. But, I will respond accordingly if someone tries to start a debate on my post.
@Mmdben I think the argument for tilt wing design being more complex is justified.
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Tilt wing is more complex because:
- fuel system needs to account for change in wing angle.
- has to be designed so prop wash over the wings is included to prevent stalling
- you're tilting the whole wing. The mechanism needs to be able to compensate for the extra weight as well as how the wing interacts with the fuselage when tilting.
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By contrast, you don't really need to do any of that with tilt rotor.
@Mmdben
1. I stated This is arguably, in theory, the easiest way of achieving VTOL through thrust vectoring. But If I wanted to be petty about it, either a standard helicopter or an avrocar would be the easiest way of, in theory, achieving VTOL. But again, I was talking about thrust vectoring and didn't feel the need to include them as their thrust vectoring capability is negligible at best. I nearly included the avrocar because of it's control system, but decided against it as it wouldn't add much to the article and in principle its very similar to 3D thrust vectoring.
2. I think I had that in my original article. But I dumbed it down severely after you published yours so I could fit in all the other stuff without the article becoming too tedious to read. I'll be honest, this article isn't my greatest work. It was originally on par with my previous stuff, but now it's a bit of a Frankenstein's monster. Not my best work.
3. Fixed it.
4. I was talking about thrust vectoring, with less emphasis on VTOL which is why I included it.
5. No. The original Word document was overwritten by this one.
@Randomdoggo I glossed over them briefly in types of jet engine. I feel like the concept of them was too similar to that of a turboprop though, so I didn't go into a lot of detail. The only major difference is the inclusion of a swash plate and the components that compliment it and those aren't turbo shaft specific as they're used on reciprocating engine powered helicopters too.
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I heavily suggest you change the symbol. Regardless of your intentions, the symbol is still almost identical to that of the SS.
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No idea. Ask Hellfire.
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I think I fixed it for you
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@randomusername Uranium in reality would make for a terrible choice for a fuel. If something catastrophic happens to one of the systems, you can potentially cause a an environmental catastrophe as the uranium will still be active even after a crash.
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Thorium on the other hand requires an external element in order for fission to occur, making it a lot more suitable and safer to slap into an aircraft. You could eaily implement an ejection system to eject the thorium in the event of a crash, meaning the thorium would no longer be radioactive.
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It is a concept I'd like to see be explored by the aviation world, but given the negative (and quite frankly unfair) stigma surrounding nuclear power, it's unlikely those that aren't knowledgeable about nuclear power would want to get on a thorium powered airliner.
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As ever, it's the consumer market which is holding back the innovation the civilian aerospace industry so desperately needs.
@Viper3000ad It's because a lot of people normally consider these things boring to learn about. If I try to talk about these topics with people they look a bit visibly bored and then I just feel simultaneously awkward and disappointed in them.
@BACconcordepilot technically, that is driven by a piston engine and thus not really a jet engine in the true sense. I was going to include motorjets in the piston power stuff for part 4. As you say, it's closer to a ducted fan than it is a jet.
@Jim1the1Squid how does that make it any better? You still openly accused a moderator of doing something on your profile. By definition, it's stirring up drama and against the rules.
@Jim1the1Squid I'm not sure that counts as "I never said that a moderator removed it"
@Jim1the1Squid while I appreciate you're frustrated, I'm not sure taking it out on a moderator is a a great way to diffuse it.
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You can make a news story on anything so long as it follows the rules. Spread good news that isn't politically charged or something.
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Unfortunately, I'm just a moderator, not a Brainstormer.
@Noname918181 I'm just kidding. It's pretty difficult making things like this interesting to the casual observer. I do try and make an effort to make reading it somewhat less tedious.
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@Jim1the1Squid " I'm not 100% sure there's a definitive way to becoming a mod. sometimes you have to apply to be one, other times the devs will just independently ask you."
@Jim1the1Squid honestly, I'm not 100% sure there's a definitive way to becoming a mod. Sometimes you have to apply to be one, other times the devs will just independently ask you.
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These days I think they look for users that have took around for a very long time and have been consistently active throughout that time.
@MTakach nope.
@SledDriver also there's at least 4 (from a brief search, courtesy of Tully) other active users on the site that use it as an easy way of spacing paragraphs. Even other moderators. But I guess they're also me too.
@SledDriver yes it is. However, one could assume that you're implying the opposite. So to address any doubts you may have:
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For a start when I debate people, I debate. I don't lose sight of the objective and I don't deviate from the line that leads to it unless the opposition throws a curve ball that needs to be addressed.
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And I certainly don't resort to direct insults. To an observer, your credibility is lost the moment you resort to insults, regardless of how good your point is because it shows your morals have weak points. And if your morals are questionable then it's possible that the intentions of your argument are too.
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For this very reason, I don't debate to change the mind of the person I'm debating. I debate to change the mind of an observer that's on the wall, spectating the argument. That way I'm morally in the clear, providing I also put forward a good argument.
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Besides, Andrew would likely revoke my status as a moderator if I was to engage in such behaviour on the site. And I'd likely lose some respect from the moderators.
@SledDriver @spaceyoter it would seem that there's beef between you two. While I'm not one for personally discouraging debating on the site, it does get a bit much when both parties resort to insulting each other.
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Whether it's insinuating one takes "reading comprehension classes" or calling people a "lazy sloth", it objectively comes under the category for being unfriendly to one another and perhaps borderline bullying. This obviously isn't tolerated on the site.
.
Normally I'd issue a strike for such behaviour, but since this seems to have regressed from a normal (and presumably well intentioned) debate, it's a matter of interpretation on who the culprit is in this scenario. So I'll let you both off the hook on this occasion. However, please bear in mind, myself or the other mods may not be so lenient in the future.
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Also @SledDriver if you're going to remove comments on your posts, I highly advise you to delete your responses to your comments in future as it leaves little to interpretation and some might say it even defeats the point of deleting them, especially when you're making direct quotes to them. As a result, you may find it negatively impacts how other players see you. Whether you personally care about that or not is up to you, but it makes our jobs as moderators easier when potential for hate towards other players is kept to a minimum.
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@CptJacobson thank you!
@Jim1the1Squid there's nothing to see here
fixed it for you
@Viper3000ad Avgas is used in piston engine aircraft, although that's likely to change in the future due to environmental concerns. Jet A1 is most commonly used for commercial jet powered aircraft, although Jet B is used in cold climates due to lower freezing point. I think JP8 fuel is used for military aircraft,.
@Strucker Don't worry I'm secretly scared of the fish too
@WNP78 thanks, man!
@Nerfaddict I have plans to cover jet engines all in one post. Also ioinc wind and ion engines provide very little thrust for an typical aircraft.
@harits nope. The blueprint I used for the SU-57 is completely different to this one
@Dinoairplanes I haven't got plans for a new one anytime soon. Lacking the motivation to get one finished. I made a few ones to test out some unity tools, but I never got them to a state where I could release them.
@CRJ900Pilot It still shows that message for me lol. I just hit F9 to make all the overlays disappear in the gifs.
@Shippy456 Thank you. I'm an aerospace engineer, so I like to keep my designs familiar and base them on stuff you find in the industry.
@TheLatentImage I'll be sure to let Alfred know how good the VTOL is next time I see him
@HawkerAviation thank you, this was based off the SU-57, F-22, YF-23 and SU-37, so you're not wrong in making that comparison.
@TheLatentImage I flew yours just before, before I made the final tweaks on this. And it is a fun aircraft to fly. The VTOL works great on it and its a smooth flight. About to take it out for another spin.