@CharlesDeGaulle I'm not walvis, how am I walvis? They make planes; I make tanks. You can see my discord in several servers, and do you seriously think I'd make an entirely new T-34)76 just to make a shitpost
I like it a lot, but from the perspective of an actual military vehicle, I have a few criticisms.
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The length:width ratio feels off. An actual tank would either be less wide, or more long to fit the ratio (preferably smaller to be harder to hit). This is so it can easily cross trenches or other divots, while still being able to turn quickly. This would be able to turn easily, but have issues on offroad terrain.
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Speaking of turning, it feels like this turns unrealistically quickly, along with acceleration and top speed being too high.
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The main gun firing APFSDS makes sense, but by the time MBTs used APFSDS, APHE shells were obsolete, so I feel like APHE being included on the main cannon would make no sense and be a waste of ammunition stowage. Another issue with the secondary armament is the fact that it does shoot APFSDS. A 30mm gun is far too small to shoot APFSDS while still being useful against enemy armor, so it would likely only have HEAT-FS and HE.
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Speaking of armament, the lack of machine guns is scary for the crew. Infantry with anti-tank guns such as BMG rifles and RPGs would tear this to shreds. I feel like a commander mounted machine gun along with a coaxial machine gun would be a fitting addition. The reason I do not include the 30mm gun is because it does not have enough ammunition to sustainably fire on large amounts of infantry. If it had a capability to reload a separate box of ammunition, I would remove this paragraph.
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Another issue with the armament is the ammunition. 200 130mm shells would take up a humongous amount of space, discounting the 30mm shells. Assuming the back of the turret is for ammunition stowage, 30 130mm shells seems a lot more realistic.
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My final comment on the armament is about turret rotation, along with gun depression and elevation. The turret elevates and rotates WAY too fast, which would be a threat to infantry support, along with any vehicles or structures (along with the tank barrel itself). I feel like it should have more depression, but that is fine. However, the elevation is unrealistically and unnecessarily high. Unless this is an anti-aircraft vehicle, anything more than 25 degrees is unnecessary. Plus, with a 130mm gun breech, the turret basket would be repeatedly hit by the breech when it elevates to anything too high. Also, the 30mm gun clips through the roof.
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Finally, the engine appears to have no radiator. It would overheat and break down quite often.
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Finally, what I like about the tank:
From a cosmetic standpoint, this tank looks phenomenal, much better than what I could do. That alone warrants an upvote. I like how you modeled ERA, and I feel like the depression feels realistic, especially how it has less near the back. I like how you realistically modeled vision ports (except for the gunner, who would be blind), and included crew equipment externally. Ground pressure is good, along with ground clearance. On the turret, there appear to be blowout panels and composite armor.
Tl;Dr: Good tank cosmetically, included many features which many would overlook, but in a realistic scenario, it either would be unable to perform as well as it does in SP or it would be outclassed by 1980s MBTs.
@CharlesDeGaulle after 2 months, it was taken down automatically due to a surge of reports. This was just a few hours after you started commenting. Due to age, the SimplePlanes algorithm would not be showing it to everyone, so that means that it had to be you. If it only happened once, I would imagine it was cumulative reports over time, and I would have just though there was a bad algorithm. However, less than a day later it got taken down again. That means I had all of the reports go through again to get it automatically taken down. Either multiple people were stalking my account, or one person made alt accounts. You were the only person who went over to my other posts to continue this pointless argument, so I assume it was you.
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On to your point: "Your flag is not fun," that is purely subjective, which is what you based your argument on. You are mad at me because you didn't find a joke funny.
@Walvis this thing took a few months to make, I was kinda burnt out after that. I was trying to make a recreation of the UCAV Wyvern from war thunder but due to lack of publicly available models and orthographic views it has been difficult just trying to get a good view on it.
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also @CharlesDeGaulle my discord is TFK_001#9341, to further prove I am not an alt
@CharlesDeGaulle I never insulted France. I have never heard of Walvis before today. Stop being so angry over literally nothing. I did not make an alt account just to insult France lol
@TankerWithATankard The Bradley is an IFV, and uses its 30mm cannon as its primary armament. However, this tank has a 25mm gun which is intended for lightly armored vehicles and infantry, where next to no penetration is needed. The main gun already has APFSDS, and does not need an additional gun which is loaded with APFSDS.
@CharlesDeGaulle France's tank design was actually very subpar. Tanks such as the B1 and AEM were optimized for WW1 trench warfare. Both tanks had severe crew overload. This tank was crewed by 1 member, and was destined for failure for that reason alone, but on the B1 the commander was in charge of both the gun, commanding the tank, reloading, and more. Plus, repairs on the B1 tank were exceedingly difficult
also I tried to slow turret rotation down, but that completely messed up the stabilizer, so unless you want me to post an unlisted version so you can fix the stabilizer it will sitll be way too fast
@TemporaryBrightness yeah I knew you weren't going for realism, but I like critiquing fictional tanks from a realistic standpoint, and tbf this is better than most tanks from AAA games.
@CharlesDeGaulle I'll reply to your comments individually, but to you saying that I used personal insults and lies, list one of each please. I did neither. I referenced jokes because the original post you got triggered over was a joke.
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One thing you have failed to respond to is this statement:
I have never once insulted France, yet you say I have.
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You say you respond with facts, such as "France has the best military," and "Napoleon was the best general". These are not facts. Those are opinions. Also, you just said link without actually sending a link.
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You say I use personal insults. In the comment you cited, you called me a moron and uneducated. I have no recollection of saying France is not amazing, but if I did, it is true. No nation is special.
France is not special, America is not special, England is not special, Germany is not special, etc.
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You started being a nuisance (first personal insult I have made this entire time) as soon as I posted, but you were the only one to continue 2 months later. That is why I assumed you were the one who mass reported, because I could think of no one else who would.
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Also, you said to me "go to sleep", despite the fact that it is day for me. Learn time zones.
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You say the B1 tank is better because it has more armor. The fact that it has more armor is true, but that does not make it better.
The Panzer was a medium tank and the B1 was a heavy tank, of course it has more armor.
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"We have an incredible history" I have never denied that. That is a true statement.
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"You do not know French tanks" I have actually spent a fair amount of time studying the B1 specifically, along with many other tanks, so I do feel qualified to speak on the issue. The B1 had many issues, and was incomparable to the Panzer due to being a completely different class of tanks. Also, the Panzer was a much more long-term design, while the B1 was a static design which was modeled for WW1 type scenarios.
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"Some B1 tanks displayed a ratio of 14 destroyed Panzers" Any heavy tank deployed correctly will wipe out enemy forces. Yes, a B1 may have destroyed a Panzer company, but a duo of KV-1s destroyed 43 panzers. That is much more impressive, with 21.5 kills per tank, yet I am not stating that the KV-1 is the best tank compared to its contemporaries.
The B1 is a heavy tank. The 14 kill scenario mentioned was based on positioning, not on tank quality.
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"France has the 3rd largest nuclear arsenal in the world" This is true. I have never denied that. However, there is more to a country than just nuclear prowess. The USA and Russia have more nukes, yet I do not believe that is for the greater good of the world. Past a certain quantity of nuclear devices, quantity is unimportant, as mutually assured destruction nullifies nuclear war.
Quantity of nukes is not a good measurement of power
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"Without France, the colonized countries would only be backward countries without infrastructure... if you come from the USA, learn that your country is independent thanks to France" So? France was occupied by Nazi Germany and had to be liberated by the rest of the allies. your point is moot.
@CharlesDeGaulle you say I am rude, despite the fact that every thing I said was backed with fact and what you said were backed with personal insults. What point are you trying to make with that comment?
@CharlesDeGaulle are you seriously lurking in this thread still just to call a joke post absurd and stupid. It wouldn't have had the comments removed if it wasn't spam reported with alts 2 months after it was made.
I haven't even downloaded and I know what it is
+7@CharlesDeGaulle what the fuck are you talking about
+2@Diver ah ok, a FT script for stabilization works better too because gyro stabilizers either move the whole tank or have too much traverse
+1@Diver I just slapped a gyro on for mine lmao
+1@CharlesDeGaulle I'm not walvis, how am I walvis? They make planes; I make tanks. You can see my discord in several servers, and do you seriously think I'd make an entirely new T-34)76 just to make a shitpost
+1also would you mind if I posted what I feel like would be a more realistic variation of this tank to my profile?
+1I like it a lot, but from the perspective of an actual military vehicle, I have a few criticisms.
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The length:width ratio feels off. An actual tank would either be less wide, or more long to fit the ratio (preferably smaller to be harder to hit). This is so it can easily cross trenches or other divots, while still being able to turn quickly. This would be able to turn easily, but have issues on offroad terrain.
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Speaking of turning, it feels like this turns unrealistically quickly, along with acceleration and top speed being too high.
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The main gun firing APFSDS makes sense, but by the time MBTs used APFSDS, APHE shells were obsolete, so I feel like APHE being included on the main cannon would make no sense and be a waste of ammunition stowage. Another issue with the secondary armament is the fact that it does shoot APFSDS. A 30mm gun is far too small to shoot APFSDS while still being useful against enemy armor, so it would likely only have HEAT-FS and HE.
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Speaking of armament, the lack of machine guns is scary for the crew. Infantry with anti-tank guns such as BMG rifles and RPGs would tear this to shreds. I feel like a commander mounted machine gun along with a coaxial machine gun would be a fitting addition. The reason I do not include the 30mm gun is because it does not have enough ammunition to sustainably fire on large amounts of infantry. If it had a capability to reload a separate box of ammunition, I would remove this paragraph.
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Another issue with the armament is the ammunition. 200 130mm shells would take up a humongous amount of space, discounting the 30mm shells. Assuming the back of the turret is for ammunition stowage, 30 130mm shells seems a lot more realistic.
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My final comment on the armament is about turret rotation, along with gun depression and elevation. The turret elevates and rotates WAY too fast, which would be a threat to infantry support, along with any vehicles or structures (along with the tank barrel itself). I feel like it should have more depression, but that is fine. However, the elevation is unrealistically and unnecessarily high. Unless this is an anti-aircraft vehicle, anything more than 25 degrees is unnecessary. Plus, with a 130mm gun breech, the turret basket would be repeatedly hit by the breech when it elevates to anything too high. Also, the 30mm gun clips through the roof.
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Finally, the engine appears to have no radiator. It would overheat and break down quite often.
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Finally, what I like about the tank:
From a cosmetic standpoint, this tank looks phenomenal, much better than what I could do. That alone warrants an upvote. I like how you modeled ERA, and I feel like the depression feels realistic, especially how it has less near the back. I like how you realistically modeled vision ports (except for the gunner, who would be blind), and included crew equipment externally. Ground pressure is good, along with ground clearance. On the turret, there appear to be blowout panels and composite armor.
Tl;Dr: Good tank cosmetically, included many features which many would overlook, but in a realistic scenario, it either would be unable to perform as well as it does in SP or it would be outclassed by 1980s MBTs.
+1nice celebration video!
+1@CharlesDeGaulle after 2 months, it was taken down automatically due to a surge of reports. This was just a few hours after you started commenting. Due to age, the SimplePlanes algorithm would not be showing it to everyone, so that means that it had to be you. If it only happened once, I would imagine it was cumulative reports over time, and I would have just though there was a bad algorithm. However, less than a day later it got taken down again. That means I had all of the reports go through again to get it automatically taken down. Either multiple people were stalking my account, or one person made alt accounts. You were the only person who went over to my other posts to continue this pointless argument, so I assume it was you.
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On to your point: "Your flag is not fun," that is purely subjective, which is what you based your argument on. You are mad at me because you didn't find a joke funny.
+1@NuriButOnlyChallengesHere TBF that is pretty accurate and a pretty good scale to measure which country's military is the best
+1@Walvis this thing took a few months to make, I was kinda burnt out after that. I was trying to make a recreation of the UCAV Wyvern from war thunder but due to lack of publicly available models and orthographic views it has been difficult just trying to get a good view on it.
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also @CharlesDeGaulle my discord is TFK_001#9341, to further prove I am not an alt
+1@CharlesDeGaulle I never insulted France. I have never heard of Walvis before today. Stop being so angry over literally nothing. I did not make an alt account just to insult France lol
+1@CharlesDeGaulle he isn't insulting France. No one here is.
also, you used reddit and a top 10 list as a source. Congratulations.
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@TankerWithATankard ok my bad, sorry for misunderstanding
@TankerWithATankard yeah but the Bradley is an IFV, this is an MBT
@TankerWithATankard The Bradley is an IFV, and uses its 30mm cannon as its primary armament. However, this tank has a 25mm gun which is intended for lightly armored vehicles and infantry, where next to no penetration is needed. The main gun already has APFSDS, and does not need an additional gun which is loaded with APFSDS.
@CharlesDeGaulle what do you mean I only see defaults?
@EternalDarkness yeah but this lad was getting exceedingly mad and harrassing me on my posts though
@CharlesDeGaulle bruh I'm not an alt. Why are you so certain I'm an alt?
@CharlesDeGaulle France's tank design was actually very subpar. Tanks such as the B1 and AEM were optimized for WW1 trench warfare. Both tanks had severe crew overload. This tank was crewed by 1 member, and was destined for failure for that reason alone, but on the B1 the commander was in charge of both the gun, commanding the tank, reloading, and more. Plus, repairs on the B1 tank were exceedingly difficult
also I tried to slow turret rotation down, but that completely messed up the stabilizer, so unless you want me to post an unlisted version so you can fix the stabilizer it will sitll be way too fast
@TemporaryBrightness yeah I knew you weren't going for realism, but I like critiquing fictional tanks from a realistic standpoint, and tbf this is better than most tanks from AAA games.
@CharlesDeGaulle I'll reply to your comments individually, but to you saying that I used personal insults and lies, list one of each please. I did neither. I referenced jokes because the original post you got triggered over was a joke.
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One thing you have failed to respond to is this statement:
I have never once insulted France, yet you say I have.
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You say you respond with facts, such as "France has the best military," and "Napoleon was the best general". These are not facts. Those are opinions. Also, you just said link without actually sending a link.
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You say I use personal insults. In the comment you cited, you called me a moron and uneducated. I have no recollection of saying France is not amazing, but if I did, it is true. No nation is special.
France is not special, America is not special, England is not special, Germany is not special, etc.
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You started being a nuisance (first personal insult I have made this entire time) as soon as I posted, but you were the only one to continue 2 months later. That is why I assumed you were the one who mass reported, because I could think of no one else who would.
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Also, you said to me "go to sleep", despite the fact that it is day for me. Learn time zones.
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You say the B1 tank is better because it has more armor. The fact that it has more armor is true, but that does not make it better.
The Panzer was a medium tank and the B1 was a heavy tank, of course it has more armor.
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"We have an incredible history" I have never denied that. That is a true statement.
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"You do not know French tanks" I have actually spent a fair amount of time studying the B1 specifically, along with many other tanks, so I do feel qualified to speak on the issue. The B1 had many issues, and was incomparable to the Panzer due to being a completely different class of tanks. Also, the Panzer was a much more long-term design, while the B1 was a static design which was modeled for WW1 type scenarios.
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"Some B1 tanks displayed a ratio of 14 destroyed Panzers" Any heavy tank deployed correctly will wipe out enemy forces. Yes, a B1 may have destroyed a Panzer company, but a duo of KV-1s destroyed 43 panzers. That is much more impressive, with 21.5 kills per tank, yet I am not stating that the KV-1 is the best tank compared to its contemporaries.
The B1 is a heavy tank. The 14 kill scenario mentioned was based on positioning, not on tank quality.
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"France has the 3rd largest nuclear arsenal in the world" This is true. I have never denied that. However, there is more to a country than just nuclear prowess. The USA and Russia have more nukes, yet I do not believe that is for the greater good of the world. Past a certain quantity of nuclear devices, quantity is unimportant, as mutually assured destruction nullifies nuclear war.
Quantity of nukes is not a good measurement of power
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"Without France, the colonized countries would only be backward countries without infrastructure... if you come from the USA, learn that your country is independent thanks to France" So? France was occupied by Nazi Germany and had to be liberated by the rest of the allies. your point is moot.
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"The best country in the world does not exist"
That is literally what I was saying
@CharlesDeGaulle you say I am rude, despite the fact that every thing I said was backed with fact and what you said were backed with personal insults. What point are you trying to make with that comment?
@CharlesDeGaulle well it was just a simple joke, no need to mass report with alts and start a day long argument because you think I was insulting you
@CharlesDeGaulle are you seriously lurking in this thread still just to call a joke post absurd and stupid. It wouldn't have had the comments removed if it wasn't spam reported with alts 2 months after it was made.
link for the unaware
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@ollielebananiaCFSP TFW you make the most popular "other" post and instantly get disqualified
@russianspy I could probably make a modless version
@ZHUANZHUAN I don't comprehend; according to google translate you are saying
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