@Dracul0Anderson Same here, like the NASA lifting bodies, but almost all real-life concepts and prototypes have either some kind of lift or stabilizers. Even helicopters, if I understand correctly, generate lift and thrust simultaneously via rotorblade. This is literally just an engine and a gyroscope lol
This will be my first of several aircraft that I will consider part of my 100k special. Thank you guys for everything, let us continue flying onward- with or without wings!
@TheMouse Well, yes, it's both
CoM usually needs to be extremely or at least considerably close to the front of the CoL for PSM planes, but I still found it quite difficult to make PSM planes work properly with high-lift wings even when the CoM is reasonably close to the CoL. My best guess for this is because PSM occurs when the wing stalls, which is a little difficult to do when the wings generate 3 times more lift than usually, essentially making the plane almost stall resistant: the last thing you want when making a post STALL maneuvering plane!
Though you're right on the last part, SP stall physics aren't perfect, so maybe this isn't the case and I'm a noob at making PSM aircraft lol (which is also true, I genuinely have not made a 100% satisfactory PSM aircraft to this day, closest I've gotten is Vector). But at least in theory, this should be somewhat true. I'll have to do more tests eventually.
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I always use liftScale 3 for my wings, generally gives you a stable yet maneuverable craft without... that happening lol. As for PSM, I've done a few experiments, and I'm not expert, but generally speaking, I'd say PSM is a lot more stable and convincing when liftScale is at or below 1 (I keep it at 1 for simplicity).
So in short:
Most planes should use liftScale set between 2-4, with 3 being my favorite, but for PSM planes, don't exceed a liftScale of 1.
Also I might know how to spawn multiple without them turning on each other: attach a bunch of pieces to a detacher that will auto-disconnect, if there's enough pieces on the detacher, this will make the system count the aircraft as critically damaged and thus undetectable, allowing for flawless swarms. May also be helpful for denying missile locks, not a problem for a WWII-esque bomber
I have a couple ideas for ze challenge, the first one is ready and the second one I can have done soon. Note sure if they're s p o o k y enough but it's something lol
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@Dracul0Anderson Fair enough
But, those were just concepts/experiments, no? They weren't considered too highly practical?
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@Dracul0Anderson Same here, like the NASA lifting bodies, but almost all real-life concepts and prototypes have either some kind of lift or stabilizers. Even helicopters, if I understand correctly, generate lift and thrust simultaneously via rotorblade. This is literally just an engine and a gyroscope lol
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+2This will be my first of several aircraft that I will consider part of my 100k special. Thank you guys for everything, let us continue flying onward- with or without wings!
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@TheMouse Agreed, you've explained it perfectly with the abrupt movements and lower stall speeds, those are the main issues I've had to deal with
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+1@TheMouse Well, yes, it's both
CoM usually needs to be extremely or at least considerably close to the front of the CoL for PSM planes, but I still found it quite difficult to make PSM planes work properly with high-lift wings even when the CoM is reasonably close to the CoL. My best guess for this is because PSM occurs when the wing stalls, which is a little difficult to do when the wings generate 3 times more lift than usually, essentially making the plane almost stall resistant: the last thing you want when making a post STALL maneuvering plane!
Though you're right on the last part, SP stall physics aren't perfect, so maybe this isn't the case and I'm a noob at making PSM aircraft lol (which is also true, I genuinely have not made a 100% satisfactory PSM aircraft to this day, closest I've gotten is Vector). But at least in theory, this should be somewhat true. I'll have to do more tests eventually.
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+1@DrakonDynamics @Zilozite
+3I always use liftScale 3 for my wings, generally gives you a stable yet maneuverable craft without... that happening lol. As for PSM, I've done a few experiments, and I'm not expert, but generally speaking, I'd say PSM is a lot more stable and convincing when liftScale is at or below 1 (I keep it at 1 for simplicity).
So in short:
Most planes should use liftScale set between 2-4, with 3 being my favorite, but for PSM planes, don't exceed a liftScale of 1.
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Also I might know how to spawn multiple without them turning on each other: attach a bunch of pieces to a detacher that will auto-disconnect, if there's enough pieces on the detacher, this will make the system count the aircraft as critically damaged and thus undetectable, allowing for flawless swarms. May also be helpful for denying missile locks, not a problem for a WWII-esque bomber
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+1I have a couple ideas for ze challenge, the first one is ready and the second one I can have done soon. Note sure if they're s p o o k y enough but it's something lol
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Whose radios are you eating?!