@marcox43 no he didn't. one guy entered a vehilce with no clip on via console commands. he said that was ok. and with the topic up he'll use the results of this tournament to decide if it will be on for all designs in future tournaments.
@MrSev Part of it is that the AI tries to make a path from ring to ring that would "avoid" the other plane. which adds a slight element of randomness to it. because that path is not always the same.
@MrSev Luck and RNG has a lot to do with that. remember this is still the same AI that flies air craft.
You just have to build a vehicle capable of handling impacts of the terrain as great as you can with how ever fast your vehicle is.
it is a very demanding build requirement we have here.
@MrSev random chance. however. that does show that a design is unreliable. either it doens't handle good enough. it doens't have enough down force. or the suspension isn't good at handling impacts.
@MrSev No the AI just doesn't do 100% precise runs one after another. there is a margin of change right from the very beginning on how it handles. which changes through out the whole run. depending on the vehicle it can be very minor. or it can be drastic. it all depends on how the vehicle handles impacts and how it handles.
@MechWARRIOR57 depending on how many parts is used to make it. I'm either putting it on wings or just on the body. if it can't be 2 parts (because Im 5 parts from my limit and I"d like on on each side at htat point) then it can be qutie large.
@EliteSteel Your design is over complicated. you built a frame work body which takes up a ton of parts. and you built a unique rear suspension that has a pivot on it. plus the paneling you're using to make the frame work look nice.
@marcox43 except you don't win if you crash out like that... you instantly count as crash. I know this from the dare devil tournament.
would you say its reliable enough to Potentally win the tournament? (graned brucethemoose crashes out :P)
I too am now entering a tank. Finishes both sides 1:08 reliably. with an insane suspension that can handle pretty much any thing thrown at it. best part is. it does this time with only 2 350ph engiens ;)
@marcox43 Actually I just uploaded a new one that I no longer considr a prototype. 1:08(axrox) reliable both sides. still makes ring 6 turn. thank you so much for the inspiration for this. (side note. this is 100% built from scratch except the rear wing. and the front wing is the rear but heavily modified)
@marcox43 Well with the new wings I got off this... the limits I'm pushing are becoming insane. I just had to create a 4 (and 5 becuase I wanted too) part re-enforced suspension part.
@marcox43 which I understand that said all vehicles in this tournament need down force. i'm juast asking if you mind if I use a modified version of the wing on this thing. and a driect rip of the wing on your last tank :P
@marcox43 Honestly at this point. I want to just let you have this design. I want to kinda keep my own design. I am using parts of the rear wings on this and your previous tank on my next vehicle however if you don't mind but I am really looking forwards to seeing this tank potentally win this tournament
@marcox43 no he didn't. one guy entered a vehilce with no clip on via console commands. he said that was ok. and with the topic up he'll use the results of this tournament to decide if it will be on for all designs in future tournaments.
@MrSev no. haven't you seen the previous tournaments? that being said, it is being taken into consideration after the results of this tournament.
@Baldovino only a few people here have those kinds of times tho :P
@marcox43 none. I'm just going off what you said your self.
@Geekpride AI isn't good enough for dog fighting really.
The major difference between your's and mine. is that yours can explode on a hard enough jump. I have yet to see mine explode from a flat landing.
@Meltingvenus1999 well no. (but you don't need a firing gun for a tank :P)
@Meltingvenus1999 for what?
@Meltingvenus1999 or you can build a tank :)
@IvoNedelchev I hardly understand what you even just said....
@Meltingvenus1999 so basically you're reliant on the left lane it can't do good in the right?
@MrSev I'll give it a run later when I can but it looks neat...(?)
I will say that air intake is unneeded and causing drag however.
@Meltingvenus1999 is that a reliable time?
@MrSev it doesn't work all that well and affects air more than ground but its still there.
@MrSev Part of it is that the AI tries to make a path from ring to ring that would "avoid" the other plane. which adds a slight element of randomness to it. because that path is not always the same.
@MrSev Luck and RNG has a lot to do with that. remember this is still the same AI that flies air craft.
You just have to build a vehicle capable of handling impacts of the terrain as great as you can with how ever fast your vehicle is.
it is a very demanding build requirement we have here.
@MrSev random chance. however. that does show that a design is unreliable. either it doens't handle good enough. it doens't have enough down force. or the suspension isn't good at handling impacts.
@MrSev No the AI just doesn't do 100% precise runs one after another. there is a margin of change right from the very beginning on how it handles. which changes through out the whole run. depending on the vehicle it can be very minor. or it can be drastic. it all depends on how the vehicle handles impacts and how it handles.
@MrSev no. its just no run is going to be 100% the same. and some vehicles handle jumps and impacts much more randomly than others.
@MrSev that's still pretty good. I mean. there are at least 100 some people not talking here so you know :P
@MrSev The current best known time is 52 seconds. my time is 1:05
@MrSev a lot of times now are starting to hit the 1:15 mark.
@brucethemoose yea
@MechWARRIOR57 depending on how many parts is used to make it. I'm either putting it on wings or just on the body. if it can't be 2 parts (because Im 5 parts from my limit and I"d like on on each side at htat point) then it can be qutie large.
@MechWARRIOR57 yea looks. Just a cosmetic thing I want to put on a vehicle of mine.
@EliteSteel give me a fwe minutes here.
@EliteSteel Your design is over complicated. you built a frame work body which takes up a ton of parts. and you built a unique rear suspension that has a pivot on it. plus the paneling you're using to make the frame work look nice.
So Now I'm pushing 1:05 solid time. and can't get any lower. The potential seems to be there. it just isn't.
@EliteSteel Take the entire vehicle. take it off the cock pit. save it in a sub assembly. put on new vehicle.
@LiamW k
@LiamW what would you need me to do?
@marcox43 except you don't win if you crash out like that... you instantly count as crash. I know this from the dare devil tournament.
would you say its reliable enough to Potentally win the tournament? (graned brucethemoose crashes out :P)
@fishheads88 I could help you fix that if you show me what you're trying to enter.
@fishheads88 of course. its in the normal race. it would have to be.
@LiamW I could help you with that if ya want :)
@LiamW Some times. good builds come out of no where XD
@marcox43 how rare are we talking? I know you said 30% but how many tests did you do?
@marcox43 it explodes on the jump to the finish?
I too am now entering a tank. Finishes both sides 1:08 reliably. with an insane suspension that can handle pretty much any thing thrown at it. best part is. it does this time with only 2 350ph engiens ;)
@marcox43 This is the "final" version btw. bit more top speed. some optimizations. removed turret. :D
@marcox43 Actually I just uploaded a new one that I no longer considr a prototype. 1:08(axrox) reliable both sides. still makes ring 6 turn. thank you so much for the inspiration for this. (side note. this is 100% built from scratch except the rear wing. and the front wing is the rear but heavily modified)
@marcox43 Well I have my new tournament entry. but yours certianly looks better.
@EliteSteel show me your vehicle maybe I can help.
@marcox43 ok yea I think you may have just won this with your tank :P
@marcox43 Well with the new wings I got off this... the limits I'm pushing are becoming insane. I just had to create a 4 (and 5 becuase I wanted too) part re-enforced suspension part.
@marcox43 which I understand that said all vehicles in this tournament need down force. i'm juast asking if you mind if I use a modified version of the wing on this thing. and a driect rip of the wing on your last tank :P
@marcox43 Honestly at this point. I want to just let you have this design. I want to kinda keep my own design. I am using parts of the rear wings on this and your previous tank on my next vehicle however if you don't mind but I am really looking forwards to seeing this tank potentally win this tournament
I tried making my own tank but after 5 proto types. none of them were even remotly stable so I'm ginvg up on that.
Ok... I am in lteral shock at how good this thing performs.... like holy crap...
now you have me thinking... going to build some prototypes. see what I can do. ;)