I would just like to say. this is the best suspension I've ever seen built. it can survive such heavy hits. the jump zone in the driving arean area. it can just go through no problem. very good work. (also you should probably add what action gropus do since it seems you need to activate group 1 to turn the engiens on)
@IAmTau and any props going tha fast in the tournament also probably had jets on them. propellers top out at 750mph and 760 if you pefectly tune the engine and drag mechanics. that's it.
@bspboy what prop configuration? because really the config I have on the 58-G is the fastest kind you can get. and its faster tahn your mantis which you have uploaded.
@bspboy actaully the highest you can go with a dive. is starting at 30k feet. 90 degree dive you can get up to just over 800mph. however on a flat you can only go at most 760mph from what I can tell. @IAmTau
Drag is a bit high. and you could use a second engine. in order to achive this. first remove the redundant cockpit only use hte one that actaully is the main peice. and nudge it inside your front engien segment (it has less drag if its not on the outside). second. you will want to fit the smallest propeller engine right behind your front set of wings. to add more thrust.
lastly and most importantly. You want to modify the settings on your engines. they should be 6 propellers. scrimitar style. 125in diamiter. fixed propeller pitch at +80%. (-80% for reverse facing engines) with max HP. for best performance.
Scrimitar style propeller blades. have them fixed at +80% and have the middle set reverse rotation at 125in diameter. remove the whole fuel tank part of the rear section. make it shorter. however if you want those wings back there like that. use the nudging tool. its less weight and drag this way. cockpit isn't fully inside the main body. that's more drag. and that's all i can tell you for tips.
@bspboy the one I"m entering is nearly identical to this one. except it accellerates faster and is about 2mph faster average. you know cutting tiny corners. as for yours let me go see it first.
@Gestour I'm using the smallest cock pit there is. and its inside the fuel tanks there. also I've actaully tested smaller designs. with 3-5 engines as a test bed.... they do not do as good as this one.
@Gestour I took every thing you said into account (and mixed what I was currently experimenting with, with it) and I still can only hit 153mph when in a decline.
@Gestour A: the only way you can get past 750mph is with XML or old engines. (or diving) and B: I'm not saying problems in turns I'm saying holding speed in turns. when the plane maneuvers does it stay at its top end speed is what I'm getting at.
@Shmexysmpilot wait modded fuel isn't allowed in modded class? I know infinity but I was reffering to modded. (also side note. after messing with my modded engien some more... i realized that its actaullly too strong. it gest you past 4000mph and you start bugging out if you manuverat low altitude at simply 3000mph... so lol)
@Alienbeef0421 @Tully2001butyes the only way that is possible is if you're using the old propeller engines which are banned in this tournament. current propeller engiens max out at about 750mph
@Shmexysmpilot well when you're talking about infinite fuel. people make counter balance weights for those things that some how makes it almost weightless.
@Shmexysmpilot yea I know lol. but we would get to see giant air liners flying from island to island in a race. or of coures it could just be modded and you have infinite fuel and such. if they do make this a race and make it a modded tournament... I would win... no joke I have one of hte most over powered modded engiens ever.
@DisferGoatzFAILURE well no when I say style I don't meach each engine I mean the propeller shape. you know. war bird. scimitar etc. that said. I have had mixed results as well because fully thin doesn't always make it faster.
@Liquidfox well the tweaking doesn't matter so much at the moment. if your'e only able to get over 2 minutes reliable in a single engine. you need major help not tweaking help.
I would just like to say. this is the best suspension I've ever seen built. it can survive such heavy hits. the jump zone in the driving arean area. it can just go through no problem. very good work. (also you should probably add what action gropus do since it seems you need to activate group 1 to turn the engiens on)
@bspboy yes I have and I have not seen you put up a new version.
@pilotred233 and compeditive times are under 2 minutes at that
@IAmTau and any props going tha fast in the tournament also probably had jets on them. propellers top out at 750mph and 760 if you pefectly tune the engine and drag mechanics. that's it.
@IAmTau because that's a jet. A JET
@bspboy what prop configuration? because really the config I have on the 58-G is the fastest kind you can get. and its faster tahn your mantis which you have uploaded.
@bspboy actaully the highest you can go with a dive. is starting at 30k feet. 90 degree dive you can get up to just over 800mph. however on a flat you can only go at most 760mph from what I can tell. @IAmTau
@DogeMaster14 you type @ and my name like you're replying to a comment except on a comment on that plane.
@DogeMaster14 what plane are you entering? upload it unlisted and tag me. I may be able to help you.
Drag is a bit high. and you could use a second engine. in order to achive this. first remove the redundant cockpit only use hte one that actaully is the main peice. and nudge it inside your front engien segment (it has less drag if its not on the outside). second. you will want to fit the smallest propeller engine right behind your front set of wings. to add more thrust.
lastly and most importantly. You want to modify the settings on your engines. they should be 6 propellers. scrimitar style. 125in diamiter. fixed propeller pitch at +80%. (-80% for reverse facing engines) with max HP. for best performance.
@Valkyrie tag me on your plane. maybe I can help.
@Liquidfox Mind tagging me so I can see? :3
I"ve managed to shave my time down to a reliable 1:46.
Scrimitar style propeller blades. have them fixed at +80% and have the middle set reverse rotation at 125in diameter. remove the whole fuel tank part of the rear section. make it shorter. however if you want those wings back there like that. use the nudging tool. its less weight and drag this way. cockpit isn't fully inside the main body. that's more drag. and that's all i can tell you for tips.
@bspboy the one I"m entering is nearly identical to this one. except it accellerates faster and is about 2mph faster average. you know cutting tiny corners. as for yours let me go see it first.
@bspboy its not the upload version (not the one I'm entering that's the E) but it gets about 148ish.
@AirplaneBro 1:58 is pretty good. but keep trying to chop more time off.
@Gestour I'm using the smallest cock pit there is. and its inside the fuel tanks there. also I've actaully tested smaller designs. with 3-5 engines as a test bed.... they do not do as good as this one.
@Gestour I took every thing you said into account (and mixed what I was currently experimenting with, with it) and I still can only hit 153mph when in a decline.
@Gestour you only tagged me on 2
@Gestour any results from tinkering yet?
@adamcurpier well of course you have too. you have to upload it so that you can enter it.
@Gestour "or better yet how could I improve my entry? (P-58 NeedlerV1.1B)"
secondly that doesn't help me much :U
@Gestour or better yet how could I improve my entry? (P-58 NeedlerV1.1B)
@Gestour well what is yours?
@Gestour like I said with out XML modding you cant. in order to attach the engines and have the space and such. it simply is too much.
@Gestour A: the only way you can get past 750mph is with XML or old engines. (or diving) and B: I'm not saying problems in turns I'm saying holding speed in turns. when the plane maneuvers does it stay at its top end speed is what I'm getting at.
@Gestour running 750 is good. running 747 but having more reliability and better speed through your turns is better.
@MrSharp its called the race option under build and fly. you know where you build your planes in the first place.
@Shmexysmpilot well then either way that engine is too strong for any real racing uses :P
@Shmexysmpilot so that's how it works? high wing load means better high speed?
@Shmexysmpilot wait modded fuel isn't allowed in modded class? I know infinity but I was reffering to modded. (also side note. after messing with my modded engien some more... i realized that its actaullly too strong. it gest you past 4000mph and you start bugging out if you manuverat low altitude at simply 3000mph... so lol)
I must admit. when first looking at this I underestimated it. I"m suprised you fit 3 of those large engines in there. but. overall a great design.
@M7 wait... how on earth did you get a propeller plane to finish bandit run in 49 seconds? I'm pretty sure that's impossible.
@Alienbeef0421 @Tully2001butyes the only way that is possible is if you're using the old propeller engines which are banned in this tournament. current propeller engiens max out at about 750mph
@Shmexysmpilot well when you're talking about infinite fuel. people make counter balance weights for those things that some how makes it almost weightless.
@M7 why? whats wrong with your entry?
@Shmexysmpilot yea I know lol. but we would get to see giant air liners flying from island to island in a race. or of coures it could just be modded and you have infinite fuel and such. if they do make this a race and make it a modded tournament... I would win... no joke I have one of hte most over powered modded engiens ever.
@KingDeadshot who me or him?
if this is a tournament entry its pretty good. but the drag is a bit high for the HP to weight ratio.
so what exactly is this and why did you upload it? its just a stock plane with like 2 parts added to it.
@Kevinairlines what do you mean?
@DisferGoatzFAILURE well no when I say style I don't meach each engine I mean the propeller shape. you know. war bird. scimitar etc. that said. I have had mixed results as well because fully thin doesn't always make it faster.
Something like this @Liquidfox
@ThePlaninatior you won't be controlling it any how. this is all AI control.
@MechWARRIOR57 you shouldn't be missing any really. ever ring you miss is a 15 second penalty. if you're missing rings you got some serous problems.
@Liquidfox well the tweaking doesn't matter so much at the moment. if your'e only able to get over 2 minutes reliable in a single engine. you need major help not tweaking help.
@Liquidfox can you specifically link me to it?
@Liquidfox what plane are you entering?
@iiRazor how are you even getting 1:40 runs?