@CALVIN232
https://www.simpleplanes.com/a/QjlL81/Mehgjik-1-18-Storzhkin
I suppose it is quite possible to make a smaller plane. Mostly in terms of length though.
@Viperfox
As I said, most likely half the planes will crash before the finish. Fast and reliable planes are generally a minority. Don't worry too much about it.
Well, I finally uploaded my plane, after seeing a dozen of faster versions of my plane failing to complete the course in a shorter amount of time. I hope that a reliable 2:11 is enough to win this tournament.
@theflyinghillbilly
When calculating an average you should divide by the amount of numbers you are calculating the average of. So you should divide by three in this case.
@Tully2001
Actually, I have a plane that does 2:11 on average. And I have seen a 2:12 plane posted by someone else. And I think it is possible to make a faster plane than mine.
I let your plane fly 3 runs through the course. I got 2:30, 2:28 and 2:29 as times. Resulting in an average of 2:29. Dare I ask how you calculate averages? @theflyinghillbilly
@Alienbeef0421
Seems like your plane is about 2mph faster than mine. Also, my plane seems incapable of making a straight looping. D: But I suppose I do have the advantage that after dozens of tests on both starts, my plane hasn't crashed a single time.
@MAHADI
This is a prop class tournament, not a mod class tournament. As you can read on the top of the page. You can get a more detailed answer by clicking on the blue 'Tournament Guide here' at the bottom of the tournament details.
@Alienbeef0421
Top speed isn't the only factor deciding how fast your plane completes the course. How much speed a plane loses in corners and whether it actually gets through the course alive are also quite relevant factors.
@f1racing6
With the AI flying, and conforming to the rules of this tournament, I think that either 2:10 or 2:09 is the best possible time. The best time achieved so far is 2:11. I'm going to be quite impressed if anyone manages to make a plane that reliably completes the course in 2:10.
@marcox43
I let it fly 5 times from the left start. It crashed in the ground twice and the other three times it completed the race in 2:12. I also let it fly 2 times against my plane, resulting in two collisions in the air. No engine explosions on either start during my tests.
Oh don't worry, my plane takes 2:12 to complete the race at the moment. 2:11 is the time I was aiming for, but apparently I'll need to get it down to 2:10, somehow...
@KiNo
Please don't. I'm happily convincing myself that my plane is perfect and that my victory is certain. I might never survive the trauma of losing by a whole second or more. D:
I got 2:13 on a slightly modified version of what was originally supposed to be my entry for the Indy air race, so I suppose that 2:14 wouldn't be too much slower than the time the winner will have.
@Johndfg Unfortunately, my plane is currently more likely to crash or miss 1 or 2 checkpoints than to complete the race in 31 seconds, also I might need to revert to an older version due to random engine explosions. I think I'll wait a little longer before uploading anything until I have a slightly more reliable version.
I'll subtly mention that my plane has managed to complete the course in 31 seconds. And forget to mention that my plane occasionally randomly crashes etc.
@CALVIN232
https://www.simpleplanes.com/a/QjlL81/Mehgjik-1-18-Storzhkin
I suppose it is quite possible to make a smaller plane. Mostly in terms of length though.
@Viperfox
As I said, most likely half the planes will crash before the finish. Fast and reliable planes are generally a minority. Don't worry too much about it.
@Viperfox
My plane doesn't need to be stable. It just needs to reach the finish with a good time and do so reliably.
@Viperfox
One out of many reasons why I made a small plane, less chances of colliding with something.
@Viperfox
Oh don't worry, at least half of the planes will crash before they reach the finish.
@Typhlosion130
Well, but my old bad planes tended to be consistent in how bad they were.
It somewhat surprises me that I am seemingly part of a small minority whose planes always complete the course in almost the same amount of time.
@SuperSanic
Using mass scale is never allowed outside mod class tournaments.
@OverlordAeronautics2
Structural wings modded so they can have control surfaces are always allowed.
@EarthwormJim
Alienbeef0421 his plane has only 25 drag.
@destroyerP
https://www.simpleplanes.com/a/6yJ2X5/Parts-for-destroyer
Well, I finally uploaded my plane, after seeing a dozen of faster versions of my plane failing to complete the course in a shorter amount of time. I hope that a reliable 2:11 is enough to win this tournament.
@Zardos
So, does your plane complete the course in 2:11 or 2:10?
@theflyinghillbilly
When calculating an average you should divide by the amount of numbers you are calculating the average of. So you should divide by three in this case.
@Tully2001
Actually, I have a plane that does 2:11 on average. And I have seen a 2:12 plane posted by someone else. And I think it is possible to make a faster plane than mine.
@Tully2001
His plane is not nearly fast enough to get 2:10 as a time.
I let your plane fly 3 runs through the course. I got 2:30, 2:28 and 2:29 as times. Resulting in an average of 2:29. Dare I ask how you calculate averages? @theflyinghillbilly
@theflyinghillbilly
You must have miscalculated, 2:00 is impossible without jet engines.
You shouldn't use -1 if you want to down scale. Using 0.5 instead should half the size of stuff.
@Alienbeef0421
My control surfaces are most certainly 'somewhat' big. But, my plane doesn't need to be able to make proper loops, probably.
@Alienbeef0421
No flatspin, just a bit of roll. Probably a side effect of never testing how my plane performs in human hands.
@Alienbeef0421
Seems like your plane is about 2mph faster than mine. Also, my plane seems incapable of making a straight looping. D: But I suppose I do have the advantage that after dozens of tests on both starts, my plane hasn't crashed a single time.
@MAHADI
This is a prop class tournament, not a mod class tournament. As you can read on the top of the page. You can get a more detailed answer by clicking on the blue 'Tournament Guide here' at the bottom of the tournament details.
@Alienbeef0421
Top speed isn't the only factor deciding how fast your plane completes the course. How much speed a plane loses in corners and whether it actually gets through the course alive are also quite relevant factors.
@f1racing6
With the AI flying, and conforming to the rules of this tournament, I think that either 2:10 or 2:09 is the best possible time. The best time achieved so far is 2:11. I'm going to be quite impressed if anyone manages to make a plane that reliably completes the course in 2:10.
@marcox43
I let it fly 5 times from the left start. It crashed in the ground twice and the other three times it completed the race in 2:12. I also let it fly 2 times against my plane, resulting in two collisions in the air. No engine explosions on either start during my tests.
Oh don't worry, my plane takes 2:12 to complete the race at the moment. 2:11 is the time I was aiming for, but apparently I'll need to get it down to 2:10, somehow...
@pilot186
You have 2 options, unscale those engines or remove them. Otherwise your plane won't be able to participate in the tournament.
@pilot186
Down scaling the size of parts can reduce the drag of an airplane and thus can help a plane win a tournament.
@pilot186
The rules are rather clear on using the part scale attribute, it isn't allowed.
@KiNo
Please don't. I'm happily convincing myself that my plane is perfect and that my victory is certain. I might never survive the trauma of losing by a whole second or more. D:
@RealQcan
Nudging is always allowed.
@RealQcan
Scaling is not allowed in this tournament.
@KiNo as long as it isn't 2:11. :P
@KiNo So, in what time does your 30 minutes plane complete the course?
I got 2:13 on a slightly modified version of what was originally supposed to be my entry for the Indy air race, so I suppose that 2:14 wouldn't be too much slower than the time the winner will have.
I have finally recovered from my Seppuku, I will not fail you all again. This time I'll defeat the evil penta(?) champion KiNo, or I will die trying.
@UnknownNate I actually tried that, not only did I lose a lot of vertical stability, it also barely reduced the downward drift...
@Johndfg Unfortunately, my plane is currently more likely to crash or miss 1 or 2 checkpoints than to complete the race in 31 seconds, also I might need to revert to an older version due to random engine explosions. I think I'll wait a little longer before uploading anything until I have a slightly more reliable version.
@AndrewGarrison Is it allowed to disable collisions on your engines?
I'll subtly mention that my plane has managed to complete the course in 31 seconds. And forget to mention that my plane occasionally randomly crashes etc.
Roses are red,
My plane was green,
Your plane exploded once,
But your superior aerodynamics won in the end.
Sorry I can't rhyme, good luck in the rest of the tournament.