I have released a fixed version for this now. It took me so long to get it flying the first time I can only assume I was subconsciously compensating for the right roll and didn't notice it. Sorry @simpro, I left the VTOL on, It needs it for power and balance. @doppleherz any feedback on the rating?
Thanks for the comment. I have tried to work on getting the flight more level but can't without serious altering the design. It's agility is about equal to the real plane, I could easily fix this but chose not too.
Not a bad job. A couple of improvement suggestions from me:
1. Slope the wings down a bit. (If you have trouble there is an easy way to do it)
2. Fix the thruster nozzle on the right side that is facing inwards.
3. Align the CoM and CoL closer together. Maybe put the nozzle further apart too.
Lastly, make an account so we can see your other work. :)
Thanks for the feedback Brian, I have rated your plane too. I will change the title for this plane now to include the A. If I post the plane without the wing parts on the end, I'll be sure to tweak the tail design.
It flies well, and I can tell you're keen on accuracy. I think you should experiment with more block type, some rounded blocks would make this planes fuselage look nicer. And I agree with Thomas, the paint job is important, it's like the icing on the cake. Keep up the good work.
Great challenge, very tricky. I suggest to anyone downloading to use a little power to start with on the runway to give the tube chance to start moving before using 100% or you'll bang into it.
Looks great CK, and fun to fly. It's really hard for me to mod due to overlaps, but think it could do with the CoT and CoM aligning more because it's a little tail heavy in VTOL, but nose heavy in flight. Great job.
To be fair, I did a search on this plane to make sure there wasn't that many posted already and there isn't, only a couple of variants that aren't closely resembling the real plane. I was recreating the look as accurate as possible. I take your word on the engines, but they certainly look good, and it still cruises up to 1000. I couldn't find you mig-35 mod please post the link!
I reckon you could even make that front end crisper with some wing parts, you have the skills for it. Looks great though, my favourite part is the underside once the gears are in.
ElijtheGeat: It's because there is a lack of vertical stability at the back of the plane, without the vertical stabs the plane is free to spin on it's vertical axis. Change the angle of the existing wings at the back to become steeper and add a third in the middle. Once you have that sorted, then you can focus of moving the weight forward to fix the lift and instabilities. Also, deassign your pylons used for wing supports. :)
This is my favourite ship from Star Wars and I haven't thought to make it myself yet. It looks good, but shame it doesn't fly yet. I think it definitely needs to be flying eventually in the stand up position though. This certainly will be a task for any plane builder to get working.
Nice work, we've done fighter jets, then WW1 and WW2 planes, now the everyday small prop planes. I would like to request a Cessna twin turbo prop plane please.
I use VTOL missiles, and the advantage is they are light weight, super fast, and if made right so the nozzle point oppose when adjusted become slower missiles or bombs. The disadvantage is you lose overall power when the have been used from your VTOL engine.
Ah, I see now. I'll have to have a mess around. I just ripped apart one of your planes and discover how to start the wings further out from the centre of a block too so hopefully will be utilising that one soon.
Perfect design, I commend you for not making the mistake of ruining the aesthetics of the plane by adding in thrusters for the redundant VTOL engine, and more intakes, although I had already done this to see what difference it makes, and it doesn't. A well deserved 5 stars.
Great looking plane, quite well balanced. Could do with less roll and more pitch. I'd change the yaw controls on the bottom for addition pitch, and that should resolve the roll sensitivity too. Also, I'm not sure if you meant it, but detacher 1 releases the wings which leaves you no roll control at all.
As always, a fantastic plane from you. I'm interested to know, have you tried shortening the tails to bring the CoM and CoL closer together or is it already at the limit of it's acrobatic ability without spinning out?
Thanks Admanta, appreciated all the same. I didn't think about using RCN so may revisit, and the colour scheme sucks, but the successors have sorted that for me.
Great machine, 5 star for design. I'm sorry though, I broke it going down a hill at 22mph. All you need to do now is squeeze up the distance between the wheels so they slightly over lap, put a pram section on the top and you have a Silvercross...you know you want to make this!
Nice design. Needs more fuel, isn't quite the hairpin turning plane as stated, but good for a first plane. I usually test all planes in low graphics first and the Middle wings break off, but I liked the fact it still had pitch and roll control on the smaller wings so could still fly.
It looks good, but it's really heavy and to counter the distance between CoM and CoL you've given the primary wings a semi-symmetric airfoil. As a result when pitching on low graphics, both wings snap right off.
Hi eyv, thanks for the review. I noticed after I posted the mark 2 that I had the com too close to the col, taking away the fuel from the furthest wing parts to the back of the plane should irradiate most of the issue. I also know that due to the design, it does lose a lot of movability at high elevation, I assume this is something to do with the cot being too close to the centre. The struts are a design that thomasjaf's discovered. The wings are much less likely to fall off under pressure. The design has been proven on a 4000mph plane and they were intact after a hard maneuver.
Well done, beautiful looking plane. As has already been noted, could do with more power. Hidden turbojets would make a huge improvement without affecting the design.
@WeeBabySeamus Wow, now that's a review, thank you very much, I'm honoured. Next up, the Tomcat's successor!
I have released a fixed version for this now. It took me so long to get it flying the first time I can only assume I was subconsciously compensating for the right roll and didn't notice it. Sorry @simpro, I left the VTOL on, It needs it for power and balance. @doppleherz any feedback on the rating?
Great job with this one, have been thinking about making it myself before. No need now.
Beautifully designed.
Perfect
Thanks for the comment. I have tried to work on getting the flight more level but can't without serious altering the design. It's agility is about equal to the real plane, I could easily fix this but chose not too.
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I couldn't fly it, but it a work of art so for that I give you 5 stars.
Great paint job, perfect name. Flies alright too, I quite like the flexible wings. It can be prone to breaking especially using the nozzles.
Not a bad job. A couple of improvement suggestions from me: 1. Slope the wings down a bit. (If you have trouble there is an easy way to do it) 2. Fix the thruster nozzle on the right side that is facing inwards. 3. Align the CoM and CoL closer together. Maybe put the nozzle further apart too. Lastly, make an account so we can see your other work. :)
Thanks for the feedback Brian, I have rated your plane too. I will change the title for this plane now to include the A. If I post the plane without the wing parts on the end, I'll be sure to tweak the tail design.
It flies well, and I can tell you're keen on accuracy. I think you should experiment with more block type, some rounded blocks would make this planes fuselage look nicer. And I agree with Thomas, the paint job is important, it's like the icing on the cake. Keep up the good work.
Great challenge, very tricky. I suggest to anyone downloading to use a little power to start with on the runway to give the tube chance to start moving before using 100% or you'll bang into it.
I like the take off ramp. I have to give you full marks though for just flying this thing for 68 minutes to find out hour long the fuel lasts. ;)
I like it. :)
Elegant and sexy. A beautiful plane to fly. I love the view from the cockpit.
Looks great CK, and fun to fly. It's really hard for me to mod due to overlaps, but think it could do with the CoT and CoM aligning more because it's a little tail heavy in VTOL, but nose heavy in flight. Great job.
To be fair, I did a search on this plane to make sure there wasn't that many posted already and there isn't, only a couple of variants that aren't closely resembling the real plane. I was recreating the look as accurate as possible. I take your word on the engines, but they certainly look good, and it still cruises up to 1000. I couldn't find you mig-35 mod please post the link!
Thanks Joshua. I might revisit this one, it was one of my first so I've learned a lot of new techniques since then.
I reckon you could even make that front end crisper with some wing parts, you have the skills for it. Looks great though, my favourite part is the underside once the gears are in.
ElijtheGeat: It's because there is a lack of vertical stability at the back of the plane, without the vertical stabs the plane is free to spin on it's vertical axis. Change the angle of the existing wings at the back to become steeper and add a third in the middle. Once you have that sorted, then you can focus of moving the weight forward to fix the lift and instabilities. Also, deassign your pylons used for wing supports. :)
Good work, thanks for sharing. Hopefully we won't get an update that makes overlapped planes stop working. Same goes for all the XML edited ones.
This is my favourite ship from Star Wars and I haven't thought to make it myself yet. It looks good, but shame it doesn't fly yet. I think it definitely needs to be flying eventually in the stand up position though. This certainly will be a task for any plane builder to get working.
Nice work, we've done fighter jets, then WW1 and WW2 planes, now the everyday small prop planes. I would like to request a Cessna twin turbo prop plane please.
I use VTOL missiles, and the advantage is they are light weight, super fast, and if made right so the nozzle point oppose when adjusted become slower missiles or bombs. The disadvantage is you lose overall power when the have been used from your VTOL engine.
Thanks Joshua, the key was in the yaw controls on the wings to stop the plane rolling.
Ah, I see now. I'll have to have a mess around. I just ripped apart one of your planes and discover how to start the wings further out from the centre of a block too so hopefully will be utilising that one soon.
Thanks CmdrAlex. I've added a single seat version of the NGF-3C with 50% more fuel.
Brilliant work thomin, I'm still scratching my head over how everyone is overlapping blocks recently though.
Handles great, looks like a man in a wingsuit. Holds up well on medium graphics, could do with and some yaw in too.
Perfect design, I commend you for not making the mistake of ruining the aesthetics of the plane by adding in thrusters for the redundant VTOL engine, and more intakes, although I had already done this to see what difference it makes, and it doesn't. A well deserved 5 stars.
Great work, 5 star for look and that it actually flies.
Great looking plane, quite well balanced. Could do with less roll and more pitch. I'd change the yaw controls on the bottom for addition pitch, and that should resolve the roll sensitivity too. Also, I'm not sure if you meant it, but detacher 1 releases the wings which leaves you no roll control at all.
As always, a fantastic plane from you. I'm interested to know, have you tried shortening the tails to bring the CoM and CoL closer together or is it already at the limit of it's acrobatic ability without spinning out?
Thanks Admanta, appreciated all the same. I didn't think about using RCN so may revisit, and the colour scheme sucks, but the successors have sorted that for me.
Adding intakes in front of your engine will significantly reduce drag and speed the plane up, you could get another 100mph out of this.
Great machine, 5 star for design. I'm sorry though, I broke it going down a hill at 22mph. All you need to do now is squeeze up the distance between the wheels so they slightly over lap, put a pram section on the top and you have a Silvercross...you know you want to make this!
Nice design. Needs more fuel, isn't quite the hairpin turning plane as stated, but good for a first plane. I usually test all planes in low graphics first and the Middle wings break off, but I liked the fact it still had pitch and roll control on the smaller wings so could still fly.
This is my design, please credit me in your write up.
Fantastic design, great idea to remove all control surfaces.
It looks good, but it's really heavy and to counter the distance between CoM and CoL you've given the primary wings a semi-symmetric airfoil. As a result when pitching on low graphics, both wings snap right off.
Not bad, but fix the right vertical stabiliser, it turns the wrong way when using the yaw.
Great ship, landed it on the first run intact on the large carrier, albeit it was upside down at the end.
Hi eyv, thanks for the review. I noticed after I posted the mark 2 that I had the com too close to the col, taking away the fuel from the furthest wing parts to the back of the plane should irradiate most of the issue. I also know that due to the design, it does lose a lot of movability at high elevation, I assume this is something to do with the cot being too close to the centre. The struts are a design that thomasjaf's discovered. The wings are much less likely to fall off under pressure. The design has been proven on a 4000mph plane and they were intact after a hard maneuver.
Nice plane. Remove the last landing gear to improve takeoff.
Nice bit of research Thomas, I'll be sure to mention you if I use the design.
Well done, beautiful looking plane. As has already been noted, could do with more power. Hidden turbojets would make a huge improvement without affecting the design.
Great plane, five stars for getting the look the same and for it flying well. For future improvement, it could do with a bit more pitch control.