@Shmexysmpilot 70 angels then, so probably, depending on atmospheric conditions, 65+ angels you'd be able to see that. I think that would be a GREAT effect. I don't know how many times I've flown up to over 100 angels, which is generally regarded as the border to orbit and wondered about that. Good info though, hopefully one day Jundroo can implement it.
@Johnnycat1357 Yes, that he did, originally a very realistic looking Colt .45, back before toy guns had to have the orange cap on the tip! I remember begging and pleading with my mother for Megatron as we spotted him in a Toys R Us in Cali back in the early '80s. I want to say that he was almost entirely cast metal because that box was heavy and the finish didn't look plastic.
Thank you all for your' support, @GravityGun913, @Johndfg, @TheOwlAce and @Stampede. I don't know how I missed most of your' upvotes but with Stampede taking a look I realized; Oh, someone had noticed this unorthodox war machine! XD
Thanks for taking a look and giving her your' seal of approval on this beaute, @VladCelTroll & @Stampede, sorry for the virtual flight manual above, but she's quirkly on water handling. lol
@TheOwlAce Wow, I thought you might be a bit younger. Just shows that I've seen the kid at heart in you. ^_~ My daughter will be turning 19 next month! XD
A lot of folks never really decide what they want to do, eventually they settle into factory, construction or retail work. The top of my class, whom I was certain would go on to bigger and better things, I ran into as a cashier at Media Play years ago. Don't get me wrong, its respectable work, but I pictured her future far differently. If you still have the opportunity for school, business management would be a good course because then you can work yourself up from the bottom of a position to management.
@TheOwlAce Nope, they really don't want us to get our eyes wet for some reason. Probably since there is no texture to the bottom surface of the water/light refraction program and two because there is just an empty space beneath the surface ripples except near land. The first part would be hard to replicate, underwater could be adapted though by just making the water sort of foggy limiting one's visibility over distance.
How strange ... my wife was just asking me literally last night if anyone had made a P-70 Nighthawk here and I said they probably wouldn't because it was an ad hoc and largely ineffective adaptation of a light bomber/attack aircraft called the A-20 Havoc in US service and Boston in British service. O.o
@Supercraft888 Yeah, I'm an old fart that basically has fun with digital legos to build airplanes, tanks and stuff. XD I never had Optimus or Megatron for that matter, but I had Starscream and ... the other decepticon that turned into a gun. I remember that by comparison he was very cheaply made, all plastic. I had a couple of others but can't remember them now for the life of me.
@Bluerobot11 I'll take a look, but as of just a little bit ago I left the RP. According to a source there, Atom bombs are now permissible. Heck no to miniguns or modded engines - but Atom Bombs are A-Okay? -sigh- Sooo unfortunately the Finnish will not be around to see that RP finish. lol
@Shmexysmpilot Ah but many are asking for space to be added~ lol I'm not sure of the exact altitude but at a certain point the blue sky begins to fade and appears to be the night sky. This was noticed in extreme high altitude flights and of course shuttle missions.
@Stampede Wow, I didn't realize you built so many WW2 planes!! :-0 You just gained a follower! Beautiful build on this girl by the way, keep up the good work!!
@Shmexysmpilot That is one thing I truly love about this game, it is one that can continue to develop and evolve thanks to our dedicated developer team. ^_^
@Sutairs LOL When I saw this I envisioned a so-called "Midwest Modified" although the engine in those goes up front. Is this more of a chassis for Formula One racers? (Or was it Grand Prix?) Sorry I haven't followed any racing since the '90s due to the emergence of my feelings regarding unnecessary carbon emissions. I don't protest or make a stink about it I just refuse to tune in to or attend races or purchase any products that promote racing; Even though I acknowledge the HUGE level of hypocracy in taking delight in seeing a WW2 warbird in flight! lol
@PLANS disableAircraftCollisions="true" - goes after Materials in the part description. Put that on your' wings and no more annoying rattle. I wonder why my planes were gradually shaking loose a layer of wing? Maybe not nudged close enough together?
@Shmexysmpilot If you look at the diagram of the undercamber wing Airfoil, tilted and reversed it looks just like that however that flat surface you mentioned might make a big difference between them. Perhaps since they declared this game to be SimpleCars too they should introduce car spoilers? ^_~ I wonder how one would make a sprint car's spoiler array?
@ErvenDynamics Well, if that's the case, I think I'll take this opportunity to bow out of the RP myself. No mini-guns, no modding engines but oh - we can have nukes! Brilliant. Thanks anyway, @MrVaultech I hope you get to finish your' story. Shame the Finnish will be not there to see it~ lol No hard feelings, just don't feel like seeing this end through WMDs.
Ah hah! Upon closer inspection you have doubled wings. Since an update a while back those can be problematic for part collisions. I JUST built my first couple twinned wing birds a few weeks ago and had to add coding to avoid losing wings! lol
@PLANS That's a sign that there are part collisions going on somewhere in the build but not enough to cause a catastrophic failure since it didn't drop parts or blow up. I'm sorry you couldn't get the landing gear to look right or get her to take off right though. I reaffirm though that you did a wonderful job reproducing this beaute's form. I'm just now learning to make custom landing gear so I'm not exactly the right source to help with that. In the future though don't hesitate to ask for help from some of the truly magnificent builders here in the forums. Now, for this girl, if you'd like I can mod the guns to accurately represent the 7.92 mm MG 17 Machine Guns in the top of the nose, mod the wing guns and get the 20 mm MG FF into the spinner if you'd like? Which variant is this to where it has two guns per wing? At first I thought she might be an E-3 or E-4 until I noticed that?
@Razr Cars aren't exactly my forte but I would say an inverted undercamber (overcamber?) would be best. With the system as it stands it automatically assumes the bottom of the structure is the bottom and therefore provides lift accordingly. I would suggest using a structural panel angled to provide drag and therefore push down on the back of the car?
@PINK Indeed, there are, but they -generally- follow the guidelines of these formats. Like I mentioned, in today's age virtually every mass produced aircraft is likely to have its own variation on an airfoil type.
@PLANS I'd say you did pretty darn good with the tools we have. I've seen far more experienced builders put out famous aircraft that didn't have this much attention paid to the shape/form of the aircraft. I think what might have happened with the landing gear is not having the coding to disable collisions between parts. Did it seem to work but you heard a strange rattling sound just before it went boom?
That's a TOUGH one... hmmm. I'll have to agree with @BaconEggs, the B-17. ^_^ The F4U Corsair, the F2G Super Corsair, the PZL P.37 'Los' and the Ikarus IK-2 all deserve an honorable mention though. XD Gah, I need to stop thinking on this as more keep coming to mind. lol
I tend to agree with you on this one. I have found a bug, quite by accident though, with the old T1000s. I'm well known for making contra-rotating designs, a habit I picked up from @TheOwlAce. However, when I first started making them I didn't know how to nudge and so I just pulled a chunk out of the middle of one of his planes and that was my "power egg" for future designs but with a different prop. Although most of my planes had engines in front of the wings the engines were all faced BACKWARDS and I'd turn out speedy designs. Once I learned how to nudge I tried making my own power eggs without the engines facing backwards - and invariably they turned out around 75 to 100 mph slower. I have a four engine (Really 8 engine, but for the story its four 2,000 HP inlined driving contra-rotating props.) At 66% throttle at 41.5k feet she can pull off 682 mph loaded with 8 tons of bombs and enough fuel to strike the capital of the US or Canada from Helsinki Finland At full throttle and level flight she can pull off 710+mph. Nevermind my dive tests that revealed the ability to hit nearly 900 mph and recover - so glad I use structural wings where appropriate! XD Note, experimental bombs on the one published here cause a lot of drag which reduces that performance. I will likely upload the revised loadout model soon.
Wow ... I've only seen these in The Mighty Jingles uploads on Youtube but this is pretty darn close to it! Bang up job, DeezDucks! Keep up the great work!!
@TheOwlAce No? I was 16 when I came to that conclusion. Four years prior I'd convinced myself I would join the AF after high school and a 2 year degree and aim for pilot; My parents threatened to disown me if I went that route. Given my family's structure and familial ties - not a good option. Sooo now I write periodically and do various odd jobs. Sad that at 38 I don't have a decent career. How old are you if you don't mind my asking?
@TheOwlAce I agree wholeheartedly. In WW2 planes would return to bases, sometimes, riddled in bullet holes. Not just the B-17 either. I remember reading a report of a strange whistling sound approaching a Marine Landing Strip. When it came into view, it was an F4U Corsair; The whistling was from all the holes in the rear fuselage...
@TheOwlAce LOL I intended to become an architect but things didn't turn out that way, its pretty simple math once you have all the factors for the equasion. lol
@ErvenDynamics Perhaps I was misinformed? By '47, without the allies hitting their nuclear research facility, the Nazis likely would have had the bomb. I did some number crunching last night, please take a look at my account at the VL Ukkonen (Finnish for Thunder; Traditionally their domestically produced aircraft are named after weather phenomena.) Strategic Bomber. Take note especially of the comments section and read the computed range vs. distance from Helsinki Finland to the last two targets included in range samples. ^_^
@TheOwlAce Moving the other two tons inside was a superior option, save the precision arms for a true tactical bomber. Here are my revised figures. Miles are listed as nautical miles.
Ukonnen (Thunder)
6,262 gal/total carried.
500.22 gal/hr @ 100% throttle - 2 hr. (1,000.44 gal for emergency power)
376.34 gal/hr @ 66% throttle
Spd @ Cruise Power: 682 mph (41.5k feet)
Range: 13.98 hours, not including emergency reserve for climbing, forming up, evasion & landings mentioned above.
Effective combat radius, excluding 2 hr reserve for 100% power, is 4,767.18 miles. (Yes, that is each way.)
From El Aaiún Spanish Morocco (Modern Day Western Sahara) to Toronto - 3,302 miles.
From " to Winnepeg - 3,960 miles
From " to Albuquerque NM - 4,655 miles.
From Manaus Brazil to Los Angeles, CA - 3,967 miles.
From " to Portland, OR - 4,415 miles.
From " to Seattle, WA - 4,451 miles.
From " to Victoria, BC - 4,518 miles.
From Helsinki, Finland to Washington DC - 3,752 miles.
From " to Ottowa, Canada - 3,397 miles.
@Flightsonic I'm glad you're happy with what you received!! Which of your' designs is this based on? I have seen much higher quality 3D printing but those generally cost an arm and a leg to order custom made.
@ErvenDynamics I'm not sure if I'm doing something wrong with this bird but I can't get her off the ground without cliff jumping and even then she lacks power to climb - is this a finished project? BTW, nukes are banned from the story line last I knew.
@Bluerobot11 Actually it's an issue with wing flex, pulling on parts attached to the wing which in turn pulls on unmodded adjustable wheels/struts to disableCollisions. XD
@Bluerobot11 Even as an enemy I can acknowledge a good aircraft! I made your' modded fuel tank a regular one and deleted the block that was supposed to eliminate the weight of all that fuel, added ballast, fueled up the wings and found her to be EXCELLENT! In the form you had it in, she couldn't handle negative Gs at all but in the revised form she was fine with it. I reached a maximum LEVEL speed of 1,264 mph. Even after the climb to 40,000 feet, where you'd find enemy bombers and their escorts you still had around 90% of your' fuel. She's a good bird with surprisingly good endurance. With more work she could probably carry even more fuel. I don't like using the unlimited fuel tanks in these types of RPs because then you can't get an idea for her true range/capabilities and in this case it actually impared her performance.
@Shmexysmpilot 70 angels then, so probably, depending on atmospheric conditions, 65+ angels you'd be able to see that. I think that would be a GREAT effect. I don't know how many times I've flown up to over 100 angels, which is generally regarded as the border to orbit and wondered about that. Good info though, hopefully one day Jundroo can implement it.
@MemeMaster8778TheLennyArmyWillRise ??
Thanks for the support, @Bluerobot11 ^_^
@Johnnycat1357 Yes, that he did, originally a very realistic looking Colt .45, back before toy guns had to have the orange cap on the tip! I remember begging and pleading with my mother for Megatron as we spotted him in a Toys R Us in Cali back in the early '80s. I want to say that he was almost entirely cast metal because that box was heavy and the finish didn't look plastic.
@SHCow Wow, you got that one right on the money! I looked at the pic provided and was like ... wow, nostalgia!!
Thank you all for your' support, @GravityGun913, @Johndfg, @TheOwlAce and @Stampede. I don't know how I missed most of your' upvotes but with Stampede taking a look I realized; Oh, someone had noticed this unorthodox war machine! XD
Thanks for taking a look and giving her your' seal of approval on this beaute, @VladCelTroll & @Stampede, sorry for the virtual flight manual above, but she's quirkly on water handling. lol
@TheOwlAce Wow, I thought you might be a bit younger. Just shows that I've seen the kid at heart in you. ^_~ My daughter will be turning 19 next month! XD
A lot of folks never really decide what they want to do, eventually they settle into factory, construction or retail work. The top of my class, whom I was certain would go on to bigger and better things, I ran into as a cashier at Media Play years ago. Don't get me wrong, its respectable work, but I pictured her future far differently. If you still have the opportunity for school, business management would be a good course because then you can work yourself up from the bottom of a position to management.
@TheOwlAce Nope, they really don't want us to get our eyes wet for some reason. Probably since there is no texture to the bottom surface of the water/light refraction program and two because there is just an empty space beneath the surface ripples except near land. The first part would be hard to replicate, underwater could be adapted though by just making the water sort of foggy limiting one's visibility over distance.
How strange ... my wife was just asking me literally last night if anyone had made a P-70 Nighthawk here and I said they probably wouldn't because it was an ad hoc and largely ineffective adaptation of a light bomber/attack aircraft called the A-20 Havoc in US service and Boston in British service. O.o
@Stampede lol Well, thank you very much! The only true warbird I have here though is the Mc.205 Veltro replica...
@Stampede The twin-tailed PZL P.37b 'Los'! ^_^
@Supercraft888 Yeah, I'm an old fart that basically has fun with digital legos to build airplanes, tanks and stuff. XD I never had Optimus or Megatron for that matter, but I had Starscream and ... the other decepticon that turned into a gun. I remember that by comparison he was very cheaply made, all plastic. I had a couple of others but can't remember them now for the life of me.
Congrats!! This one will be a BEAST to intercept. lol
@Bluerobot11 I'll take a look, but as of just a little bit ago I left the RP. According to a source there, Atom bombs are now permissible. Heck no to miniguns or modded engines - but Atom Bombs are A-Okay? -sigh- Sooo unfortunately the Finnish will not be around to see that RP finish. lol
@Shmexysmpilot Ah but many are asking for space to be added~ lol I'm not sure of the exact altitude but at a certain point the blue sky begins to fade and appears to be the night sky. This was noticed in extreme high altitude flights and of course shuttle missions.
@Stampede Wow, I didn't realize you built so many WW2 planes!! :-0 You just gained a follower! Beautiful build on this girl by the way, keep up the good work!!
@Shmexysmpilot That is one thing I truly love about this game, it is one that can continue to develop and evolve thanks to our dedicated developer team. ^_^
@Sutairs LOL When I saw this I envisioned a so-called "Midwest Modified" although the engine in those goes up front. Is this more of a chassis for Formula One racers? (Or was it Grand Prix?) Sorry I haven't followed any racing since the '90s due to the emergence of my feelings regarding unnecessary carbon emissions. I don't protest or make a stink about it I just refuse to tune in to or attend races or purchase any products that promote racing; Even though I acknowledge the HUGE level of hypocracy in taking delight in seeing a WW2 warbird in flight! lol
@PLANS disableAircraftCollisions="true" - goes after Materials in the part description. Put that on your' wings and no more annoying rattle. I wonder why my planes were gradually shaking loose a layer of wing? Maybe not nudged close enough together?
@Shmexysmpilot If you look at the diagram of the undercamber wing Airfoil, tilted and reversed it looks just like that however that flat surface you mentioned might make a big difference between them. Perhaps since they declared this game to be SimpleCars too they should introduce car spoilers? ^_~ I wonder how one would make a sprint car's spoiler array?
@Supercraft888 Oh man, what a blast from the past. I remember when this guy and the others first hit the toy stores. XD
@traindude48 I think so too. The request for lamilar airfoils was an afterthought TBH, so people can build convincing spitfires.
@Jetliner101 I try to keep my research thorough.
@Shmexysmpilot Is that how it works? Thanks for answering him with a more well informed answer than I could provide!!
@ErvenDynamics Well, if that's the case, I think I'll take this opportunity to bow out of the RP myself. No mini-guns, no modding engines but oh - we can have nukes! Brilliant. Thanks anyway, @MrVaultech I hope you get to finish your' story. Shame the Finnish will be not there to see it~ lol No hard feelings, just don't feel like seeing this end through WMDs.
Ah hah! Upon closer inspection you have doubled wings. Since an update a while back those can be problematic for part collisions. I JUST built my first couple twinned wing birds a few weeks ago and had to add coding to avoid losing wings! lol
@PLANS That's a sign that there are part collisions going on somewhere in the build but not enough to cause a catastrophic failure since it didn't drop parts or blow up. I'm sorry you couldn't get the landing gear to look right or get her to take off right though. I reaffirm though that you did a wonderful job reproducing this beaute's form. I'm just now learning to make custom landing gear so I'm not exactly the right source to help with that. In the future though don't hesitate to ask for help from some of the truly magnificent builders here in the forums. Now, for this girl, if you'd like I can mod the guns to accurately represent the 7.92 mm MG 17 Machine Guns in the top of the nose, mod the wing guns and get the 20 mm MG FF into the spinner if you'd like? Which variant is this to where it has two guns per wing? At first I thought she might be an E-3 or E-4 until I noticed that?
@Razr Cars aren't exactly my forte but I would say an inverted undercamber (overcamber?) would be best. With the system as it stands it automatically assumes the bottom of the structure is the bottom and therefore provides lift accordingly. I would suggest using a structural panel angled to provide drag and therefore push down on the back of the car?
@PINK Indeed, there are, but they -generally- follow the guidelines of these formats. Like I mentioned, in today's age virtually every mass produced aircraft is likely to have its own variation on an airfoil type.
@PLANS I'd say you did pretty darn good with the tools we have. I've seen far more experienced builders put out famous aircraft that didn't have this much attention paid to the shape/form of the aircraft. I think what might have happened with the landing gear is not having the coding to disable collisions between parts. Did it seem to work but you heard a strange rattling sound just before it went boom?
Awesome, now, when are you adding the roll cage? XD
That's a TOUGH one... hmmm. I'll have to agree with @BaconEggs, the B-17. ^_^ The F4U Corsair, the F2G Super Corsair, the PZL P.37 'Los' and the Ikarus IK-2 all deserve an honorable mention though. XD Gah, I need to stop thinking on this as more keep coming to mind. lol
Anyway though, yes, the engines are quite underpowered when used as one should and the fuel drain on the T2000s and T3000s is FAR exaggerated.
I tend to agree with you on this one. I have found a bug, quite by accident though, with the old T1000s. I'm well known for making contra-rotating designs, a habit I picked up from @TheOwlAce. However, when I first started making them I didn't know how to nudge and so I just pulled a chunk out of the middle of one of his planes and that was my "power egg" for future designs but with a different prop. Although most of my planes had engines in front of the wings the engines were all faced BACKWARDS and I'd turn out speedy designs. Once I learned how to nudge I tried making my own power eggs without the engines facing backwards - and invariably they turned out around 75 to 100 mph slower. I have a four engine (Really 8 engine, but for the story its four 2,000 HP inlined driving contra-rotating props.) At 66% throttle at 41.5k feet she can pull off 682 mph loaded with 8 tons of bombs and enough fuel to strike the capital of the US or Canada from Helsinki Finland At full throttle and level flight she can pull off 710+mph. Nevermind my dive tests that revealed the ability to hit nearly 900 mph and recover - so glad I use structural wings where appropriate! XD Note, experimental bombs on the one published here cause a lot of drag which reduces that performance. I will likely upload the revised loadout model soon.
Wow ... I've only seen these in The Mighty Jingles uploads on Youtube but this is pretty darn close to it! Bang up job, DeezDucks! Keep up the great work!!
@TheOwlAce No? I was 16 when I came to that conclusion. Four years prior I'd convinced myself I would join the AF after high school and a 2 year degree and aim for pilot; My parents threatened to disown me if I went that route. Given my family's structure and familial ties - not a good option. Sooo now I write periodically and do various odd jobs. Sad that at 38 I don't have a decent career. How old are you if you don't mind my asking?
@Flightsonic Oooh okay, I'll go take a look for comparison's sake! ^_^
I'd also like to see a feature where propeller blades bend or break rather than blowing up the whole engine. THAT bugs the heck out of me.
@TheOwlAce I agree wholeheartedly. In WW2 planes would return to bases, sometimes, riddled in bullet holes. Not just the B-17 either. I remember reading a report of a strange whistling sound approaching a Marine Landing Strip. When it came into view, it was an F4U Corsair; The whistling was from all the holes in the rear fuselage...
@TheOwlAce LOL I intended to become an architect but things didn't turn out that way, its pretty simple math once you have all the factors for the equasion. lol
@MrVaultech Would you like to weigh in on the conversation with @ErvenDynamics and the use of the atom bomb in this RP?
@ErvenDynamics Perhaps I was misinformed? By '47, without the allies hitting their nuclear research facility, the Nazis likely would have had the bomb. I did some number crunching last night, please take a look at my account at the VL Ukkonen (Finnish for Thunder; Traditionally their domestically produced aircraft are named after weather phenomena.) Strategic Bomber. Take note especially of the comments section and read the computed range vs. distance from Helsinki Finland to the last two targets included in range samples. ^_^
@TheOwlAce Moving the other two tons inside was a superior option, save the precision arms for a true tactical bomber. Here are my revised figures. Miles are listed as nautical miles.
Ukonnen (Thunder)
6,262 gal/total carried.
500.22 gal/hr @ 100% throttle - 2 hr. (1,000.44 gal for emergency power)
376.34 gal/hr @ 66% throttle
Spd @ Cruise Power: 682 mph (41.5k feet)
Range: 13.98 hours, not including emergency reserve for climbing, forming up, evasion & landings mentioned above.
Effective combat radius, excluding 2 hr reserve for 100% power, is 4,767.18 miles. (Yes, that is each way.)
From El Aaiún Spanish Morocco (Modern Day Western Sahara) to Toronto - 3,302 miles.
From " to Winnepeg - 3,960 miles
From " to Albuquerque NM - 4,655 miles.
From Manaus Brazil to Los Angeles, CA - 3,967 miles.
From " to Portland, OR - 4,415 miles.
From " to Seattle, WA - 4,451 miles.
From " to Victoria, BC - 4,518 miles.
From Helsinki, Finland to Washington DC - 3,752 miles.
From " to Ottowa, Canada - 3,397 miles.
@SimpleFlow Sweet, can't wait to see her! She partly inspired the Ukkonen Strategic Bomber I released. XD
@Flightsonic I'm glad you're happy with what you received!! Which of your' designs is this based on? I have seen much higher quality 3D printing but those generally cost an arm and a leg to order custom made.
Not bad, appearance wise though an intake falls off on the runway and she pulls hard right as you accelerate - not sure of the reason though.
@ErvenDynamics I'm not sure if I'm doing something wrong with this bird but I can't get her off the ground without cliff jumping and even then she lacks power to climb - is this a finished project? BTW, nukes are banned from the story line last I knew.
@Bluerobot11 Actually it's an issue with wing flex, pulling on parts attached to the wing which in turn pulls on unmodded adjustable wheels/struts to disableCollisions. XD
@Bluerobot11 Even as an enemy I can acknowledge a good aircraft! I made your' modded fuel tank a regular one and deleted the block that was supposed to eliminate the weight of all that fuel, added ballast, fueled up the wings and found her to be EXCELLENT! In the form you had it in, she couldn't handle negative Gs at all but in the revised form she was fine with it. I reached a maximum LEVEL speed of 1,264 mph. Even after the climb to 40,000 feet, where you'd find enemy bombers and their escorts you still had around 90% of your' fuel. She's a good bird with surprisingly good endurance. With more work she could probably carry even more fuel. I don't like using the unlimited fuel tanks in these types of RPs because then you can't get an idea for her true range/capabilities and in this case it actually impared her performance.