@randomusername Heh, this isn't the one that has the problem.
I have another one, same size, but twice as tall in the rear
Imagine this one with the same sort of structure on top as it has on the bottom.
This one is actually the base for an ISD as in Star Wars, but it's not quite right.
I made it twice as tall where it needed it and reskinned the whole lot, I just need to sort the wings out and it'll be good.
Then I can get to work on that C&C tower area the darn things have and that's going to throw everything out of whack again. lol
@randomusername https://www.simpleplanes.com/a/CSj8UX/Emperors-Hammer-Project-in-progress
That.
I have had to rework it a fair bit, it needed to be twice as high in the rear as this one.
I'm much further along and I don't know why I'm bothering with getting it to fly right now as I still have the whole superstructure on top to add yet, but it's looking good.
@randomusername Very very interesting. I have a 'plane' that is being troublesome and that could help.
Is the plane still fully controllable otherwise, as in can you make it pitch downward via controls?
If it works, you get a cookie and a mention in the description ;)
Mind, if it's bogus and you are messing with us, you will get a mention too :P
Le Sigh.
Having to rebuild it a bit.
It's not tall enough in the rear, it needs to be twice as tall.
I guess you could this the 'Interceptor' ISD.
Now there is an idea......
Ye gods, I may have just made something that will do that.
That box will fit in the load area of the Trooper quite easily and a drop door or something could be fitted with a bit of work.
Anyone know how to make engines turn off again after being activated, aside from turning off all engines after deactivating them?
Also, just in case people were wondering, I do stuff like this when I hit a stumbling block on my big projects, it sometimes gives me ideas on how to get past them.
@robloxweponco Thankyou.
I am working on a bigger version, not full scale though.
The original "Caspian Sea Monster" was a big plane/boat, call it what you will.
As various people have noted, no awards for this challenge, but that's not an issue.
I probably spent less than an hour on making this, a good part of it choosing which engines to put on it and trimming it so it behaves itself with no hands on the controls.
Does a couple of odd things this plane.
Cut the power right back while it is climbing and it will do what it did while the power was on, but in reverse.
It will drop the nose until it picks up speed, then raise it again, rinse and repeat until it get to ground/sea level.
Not a spectacular flier, probably thanks to the strange wing, but I don't think it is possible to stall this by accident, I reckon you might have to force it into a real stall.
Also, that flat black color on the wings helps hide how ugly the wing surface is. :P
@huaishushu2333333 This is sort of based on a 747, size wise at any rate.
The wing structure is similar, but the main wing is at the top of the fuselage instead of the bottom.
The book this is from is slowly giving up more details as I read it, so the next version may be different in some aspects.
Right now that version has actual working engines mounted where they are supposed to be. Fine tuning it is going to be a bugger. lol
This is based on an advanced aircraft, the name of which totally escapes me right at this time.
I'm fairly sure the only similarities between this aircraft and that one is that they both have forward swept wings, the rest is totally out of my head.
All missiles are mounted on the outer wing because of the canard in front, I'm pretty sure the missiles would hit it otherwise.
The engines are everyone's favorite BFE150 (who doesn't love afterburners?) made extra thin, and with halved power.
I am wondering if I should have mounted the big BFE300 Turbo Fans instead, it seems to lack the power to climb at high (30K+ ft) altitude.
I sort of planned for a single engine, but mounting it right at the end made the aircraft very unstable for some reason and in the end the plane looks cooler with the loooong air intakes.
I had the PC fly vs a F-15 and it was able to go head to head and win more often than not, although you shouldn't take my word for it.
It turned out far better than I hoped it would.
EDIT: I realized that the F-15 I had the PC fly against ( @Sulaiman123 ) may not be the best, but it is certainly the most recent one I could find, so, I also downloaded an F-15 made by @KCferrari and it did pretty well against that also.
Is there a F-15 Eagle here that is considered to be the 'Best' version?
I have also tested it against a Su-27 and while it didn't do too badly if it survived the first pass, it was mostly outclassed. That's a real next gen fighter for you.
Can you land on it and stop?
Just asking because the other aircraft I have you can land on, but as soon as you drop below the speed of the ship, you start sliding off the deck.
Pretty much something I threw together while my younger bro was at my place, just to show him how it worked.
Never thought it would fly as good as it does.
One of those 'happy accidents' I seem to be having of late.
@GreatGuy Not a problem. I've had a pretty good day today. At work I saw two big guys pushing a shopping trolley full of rainbow colored stuffed animals. I thought it was pretty funny. So did they.
@GreatGuy
I tried my idea, it didn't work. It seems that the wing will pass right through the structural 'brace' defeating the purpose of the brace.
I have 'fixed' your aircraft, but then I remembered finding a 'structural wing with control surface' that was uploaded quite some time ago.
Here is the link --> https://www.simpleplanes.com/a/g3uDIy/structural-wing-with-control-surface-modded
That should solve all of your large wing problems.
Download that, save it as an 'assembly' (to do that make sure the cockpit is not near it and drag it to the top left corner) and any time you need to put big wings on something, use that.
I'll upload your fixed aircraft if you want, but all I have really done is put new wings on it, installed landing gear and moved the engines a bit.
Basically nothing pretty much.
I'll be uploading a version of this that will need the 'Rocket Engines' mod to work.
I may need to completely remake it on a larger scale because of how much fuel the rocket engines use.
When?
No idea, but it will happen.
Will be uploading the solo version of the 'Pencils' Rocket, minus the Kitan carry gear and a jet version as well. Soon (tm) for a certain amount of Soon.
This aircraft has a few secrets. Well, only one really.
It is not a fighter or anything else really, it just gets up in the air and flies..... somehow.
Yup, this need TWO mods to use.
The Rocket Engines mod, because rocket engines and the Outer Space mod, because space VTOL engine doesn't need air, so RCS ports work in space.
The six rockets on the outside are the 'main' engines, while the center one is the 'space' engine. For some reason all 7 engines firing in space make Kitan want to turn nose up really fast, which is not good for space flight.
Kitan is fully capable of flight in atmosphere and the best way to recover her is to water land, then use the 'space' engine to get as close to land as possible.
Forgot to mention, Pencils is the one with the cockpit. Kitan is still flyable, but the cameras don't help a lot.
EDIT: Get the Space mod for this too, it is what it is all about after all. As an added bonus with the nice view from space, you get all of the normal engines over again, but they don't need air to work!
Planning on making a 'airless' jet version of this.
It flies all right as it is, but you need to pay attention to what you are doing with it.
If you try to bring the lift motors to full horizontal, it is going down, there is not enough actual lift surface to keep it in the air and what there is, is at the back.
If you keep the lift motors at around 45 degrees, it will maintain altitude and it can then be controlled by the big tail plane.
It's not too bad once you get the hang of it.
@ForeverPie How about making the 'Old Dog' from "Flight of the Old Dog" by Dale Brown?
I'm getting this by the way, looks better than the last one I d/l'd.
edit: dammit, didn't read that it needs a mod. Getting that too.
@DrPotluck Yep, that's a lot of guns all right.
I was just thinking of doing something like that, but you beat me to it :P
I might go ahead and do it anyway, we can have a competition and see how many guns we can strap to a plane before it stops flying. Kidding.
I am going to start throwing guns on a plane though, just for giggles.
This was an effort to make a plane that looked a lot more like the craft it was based on, the Marauder Fighter from the Discovery Mod for the old space trading game "Freelancer".
The only thing it has in common is a similar shape, but that's about it.
It does fly nicely though.
EDIT: News Flash. Le sigh. I should have tested it in dogfight mode vs another aircraft before posting. Turns out it is a "shoot and scoot" fighter. The F15C literally flies rings around it.
I'm going to try and 'fix' that though.
2nd EDIT: Find and remove the Gyro, it is near the CoM. That improves things a bit. If it can survive the first pass vs the F15, it now stands a chance of killing it.
Forgot to mention, the shocks on the landing gear have been maxed out, that is why it can 'land' at over 100 mph.
The guns are there for reasons. :P
Interesting fact: Except for the two winglets on the blades, there are no other actual flight surfaces on this 'aircraft'.
You need to be up pretty high for this to work properly.
A good height to start from is over 30k, it gives you time to make mistakes and recover.
It will take some time to go very high as it has a single motor.
There have been zero mods used in this.
If everyone or anyone wants to see more of my strange experiments along this line, let me know and I'll post them.
I have one that more less works, that is, it will get down again without losing too many parts on landing, without using the engine.
The surprising part is that it only has two small horizontal stabilizers on the end of two long structural panels, not structural wings, just panels.
Maybe this should be a challenge, the winner gets free web cookies. lol
EDIT: Instead of adding another post to my comment count, I'm doing this.
Mess with this in any way you want, if you can get it -or- a/your version of it down in one piece, post it!
I'm also working on a version of this that has guns, LOTS and LOTS of guns, kind of like a 'sky porcupine'.
Like it says on the box, this is an experiment. It looks at 'auto rotation' something helicopter pilots are trained to do if the engine fails, except with this you don't have access to the sort of pitch control a helicopter has.
Have fun, made for a bit of a laugh.
My second go at making a rocket, my first go at making a rocket that could be real.
I also had a go at adding some detail, the black/dark gray leading edge on the wings/tail/nose and the cargo bay doors. Thought about putting 'tile markings' on the wings and tail, but that would have been way too fiddly and time consuming.
As noted in the description, this jet is from the deck of the CVN-71.
I got it by accident while I was clearing the deck of the CVN-71 to make it load faster on my PC and decided to make it fly, if I could.
Things done;
overhauled engines
straightened wings
flattened out a few bumps
replaced static landing gear with fully operational gear.
Repaired wing cannons
Added Interceptor missiles.
Apart from those things, this aircraft is as I found it.
I hold no claim on this aircraft.
Now a tag for @gunkanmarch.
Did I miss acknowledgements for anyone? If so, who?
@gunkanmarch Of course, I mentioned that in the first post I made in this thread, which was one of the reasons I posted in the first place.
I'll upload sometime in the next few days, work and xmas stuff happening and that.
I'll tag you so you know when it happens and you can let me know if I miss mentioning anyone who needs to mentioned.
@Minecraftpoweer Nope, had no idea that it wasn't doable until I tried. I learned something along the way too.
I can now make mods, albeit simple ones.
@Minecraftpoweer Discovered by trial and error that you can not mix and match properties from one part with another.
Simply put, you can not add the tracking part from a missile to a rotator/hinge and have it show up as a mod, they plain old do not like each other.
Once the week end hits, I'm going to try and make rotator/hinge in one part, something that will point up and down AND go around in a circle.
@gunkanmarch Just asking if it was ok to upload the aircraft, as I did not make it and do not want people to think I stole it and uploaded without permission.
For a laugh put two of them vs in dogfight.
@CCXRCC Nice work. :)
@randomusername Heh, this isn't the one that has the problem.
I have another one, same size, but twice as tall in the rear
Imagine this one with the same sort of structure on top as it has on the bottom.
This one is actually the base for an ISD as in Star Wars, but it's not quite right.
I made it twice as tall where it needed it and reskinned the whole lot, I just need to sort the wings out and it'll be good.
Then I can get to work on that C&C tower area the darn things have and that's going to throw everything out of whack again. lol
@randomusername https://www.simpleplanes.com/a/CSj8UX/Emperors-Hammer-Project-in-progress
That.
I have had to rework it a fair bit, it needed to be twice as high in the rear as this one.
I'm much further along and I don't know why I'm bothering with getting it to fly right now as I still have the whole superstructure on top to add yet, but it's looking good.
@randomusername Very very interesting. I have a 'plane' that is being troublesome and that could help.
Is the plane still fully controllable otherwise, as in can you make it pitch downward via controls?
If it works, you get a cookie and a mention in the description ;)
Mind, if it's bogus and you are messing with us, you will get a mention too :P
Le Sigh.
Having to rebuild it a bit.
It's not tall enough in the rear, it needs to be twice as tall.
I guess you could this the 'Interceptor' ISD.
Now there is an idea......
@AlexHomKa Thankyou. I try. heh.
Ye gods, I may have just made something that will do that.
That box will fit in the load area of the Trooper quite easily and a drop door or something could be fitted with a bit of work.
Anyone know how to make engines turn off again after being activated, aside from turning off all engines after deactivating them?
Also, just in case people were wondering, I do stuff like this when I hit a stumbling block on my big projects, it sometimes gives me ideas on how to get past them.
@tuadi12123 The TIE Fighter flies about as well as expected it to in SP, that is all.
As for the rest, well, Gooogle knows all. ;)
So many different Star Wars craft to make.
Gunboat would be favorite, or maybe the MIS (Missile Boat), that'd be a laugh packing it out with all the missiles it can carry in game.
Sounds like I just found my next project. :P
But which version to make, the ones from the game TIE Fighter or the ones from X-Wing Alliance? XWA are nicer to look at. :)
EDIT: Umm yeah. Downloaded because Star Wars. Emperor's Hammer. TIE Corps FTW. Theta Squadron pwns all. ;)
Who wants a full size one? :P
Making the hull for that sucker will take a while. 0.o
@robloxweponco Thankyou.
I am working on a bigger version, not full scale though.
The original "Caspian Sea Monster" was a big plane/boat, call it what you will.
As various people have noted, no awards for this challenge, but that's not an issue.
I probably spent less than an hour on making this, a good part of it choosing which engines to put on it and trimming it so it behaves itself with no hands on the controls.
Does a couple of odd things this plane.
Cut the power right back while it is climbing and it will do what it did while the power was on, but in reverse.
It will drop the nose until it picks up speed, then raise it again, rinse and repeat until it get to ground/sea level.
Not a spectacular flier, probably thanks to the strange wing, but I don't think it is possible to stall this by accident, I reckon you might have to force it into a real stall.
Also, that flat black color on the wings helps hide how ugly the wing surface is. :P
@huaishushu2333333 This is sort of based on a 747, size wise at any rate.
The wing structure is similar, but the main wing is at the top of the fuselage instead of the bottom.
The book this is from is slowly giving up more details as I read it, so the next version may be different in some aspects.
Right now that version has actual working engines mounted where they are supposed to be. Fine tuning it is going to be a bugger. lol
@huaishushu2333333 ? Really? !!
@Vidal99977 *grabs this in the name of research for an ongoing project.
I also like the look of this.
The nose looks very nice, I may learn a few things to use on the 'Monarche Project'.
Been having issues getting the pointy end to look right. heh
@alex544 A clever idea I haven't seen done before.
This is based on an advanced aircraft, the name of which totally escapes me right at this time.
I'm fairly sure the only similarities between this aircraft and that one is that they both have forward swept wings, the rest is totally out of my head.
All missiles are mounted on the outer wing because of the canard in front, I'm pretty sure the missiles would hit it otherwise.
The engines are everyone's favorite BFE150 (who doesn't love afterburners?) made extra thin, and with halved power.
I am wondering if I should have mounted the big BFE300 Turbo Fans instead, it seems to lack the power to climb at high (30K+ ft) altitude.
I sort of planned for a single engine, but mounting it right at the end made the aircraft very unstable for some reason and in the end the plane looks cooler with the loooong air intakes.
I had the PC fly vs a F-15 and it was able to go head to head and win more often than not, although you shouldn't take my word for it.
It turned out far better than I hoped it would.
EDIT: I realized that the F-15 I had the PC fly against ( @Sulaiman123 ) may not be the best, but it is certainly the most recent one I could find, so, I also downloaded an F-15 made by @KCferrari and it did pretty well against that also.
Is there a F-15 Eagle here that is considered to be the 'Best' version?
I have also tested it against a Su-27 and while it didn't do too badly if it survived the first pass, it was mostly outclassed. That's a real next gen fighter for you.
Can you land on it and stop?
Just asking because the other aircraft I have you can land on, but as soon as you drop below the speed of the ship, you start sliding off the deck.
Pretty much something I threw together while my younger bro was at my place, just to show him how it worked.
Never thought it would fly as good as it does.
One of those 'happy accidents' I seem to be having of late.
@GreatGuy Not a problem. I've had a pretty good day today. At work I saw two big guys pushing a shopping trolley full of rainbow colored stuffed animals. I thought it was pretty funny. So did they.
This is an experiment I did, so the plane flies and that is pretty much it. I don't spend a lot of time making my experimental planes look nice. ;)
On another note, who wants a Shuttle with Rocket Engines?
@GreatGuy
I tried my idea, it didn't work. It seems that the wing will pass right through the structural 'brace' defeating the purpose of the brace.
I have 'fixed' your aircraft, but then I remembered finding a 'structural wing with control surface' that was uploaded quite some time ago.
Here is the link --> https://www.simpleplanes.com/a/g3uDIy/structural-wing-with-control-surface-modded
That should solve all of your large wing problems.
Download that, save it as an 'assembly' (to do that make sure the cockpit is not near it and drag it to the top left corner) and any time you need to put big wings on something, use that.
I'll upload your fixed aircraft if you want, but all I have really done is put new wings on it, installed landing gear and moved the engines a bit.
Basically nothing pretty much.
I'll be uploading a version of this that will need the 'Rocket Engines' mod to work.
I may need to completely remake it on a larger scale because of how much fuel the rocket engines use.
When?
No idea, but it will happen.
Will be uploading the solo version of the 'Pencils' Rocket, minus the Kitan carry gear and a jet version as well. Soon (tm) for a certain amount of Soon.
This aircraft has a few secrets. Well, only one really.
It is not a fighter or anything else really, it just gets up in the air and flies..... somehow.
Yup, this need TWO mods to use.
The Rocket Engines mod, because rocket engines and the Outer Space mod, because space VTOL engine doesn't need air, so RCS ports work in space.
The six rockets on the outside are the 'main' engines, while the center one is the 'space' engine. For some reason all 7 engines firing in space make Kitan want to turn nose up really fast, which is not good for space flight.
Kitan is fully capable of flight in atmosphere and the best way to recover her is to water land, then use the 'space' engine to get as close to land as possible.
Turrets are easy, getting them to work and have the plane stay upright and out of trouble, not so much.
Forgot to mention, Pencils is the one with the cockpit. Kitan is still flyable, but the cameras don't help a lot.
EDIT: Get the Space mod for this too, it is what it is all about after all. As an added bonus with the nice view from space, you get all of the normal engines over again, but they don't need air to work!
Planning on making a 'airless' jet version of this.
It flies all right as it is, but you need to pay attention to what you are doing with it.
If you try to bring the lift motors to full horizontal, it is going down, there is not enough actual lift surface to keep it in the air and what there is, is at the back.
If you keep the lift motors at around 45 degrees, it will maintain altitude and it can then be controlled by the big tail plane.
It's not too bad once you get the hang of it.
Has one or two issues, but flies ok and looks nice.
@ForeverPie How about making the 'Old Dog' from "Flight of the Old Dog" by Dale Brown?
I'm getting this by the way, looks better than the last one I d/l'd.
edit: dammit, didn't read that it needs a mod. Getting that too.
Been to 'space'.
It's rather nice. I guess the next step is the MOON. ;)
Must try my Shuttle.
@DrPotluck Yep, that's a lot of guns all right.
I was just thinking of doing something like that, but you beat me to it :P
I might go ahead and do it anyway, we can have a competition and see how many guns we can strap to a plane before it stops flying. Kidding.
I am going to start throwing guns on a plane though, just for giggles.
Just got the 'Space' mod, now I'm going to got to 'actual' space!
This was an effort to make a plane that looked a lot more like the craft it was based on, the Marauder Fighter from the Discovery Mod for the old space trading game "Freelancer".
The only thing it has in common is a similar shape, but that's about it.
It does fly nicely though.
EDIT: News Flash. Le sigh. I should have tested it in dogfight mode vs another aircraft before posting. Turns out it is a "shoot and scoot" fighter. The F15C literally flies rings around it.
I'm going to try and 'fix' that though.
2nd EDIT: Find and remove the Gyro, it is near the CoM. That improves things a bit. If it can survive the first pass vs the F15, it now stands a chance of killing it.
Forgot to mention, the shocks on the landing gear have been maxed out, that is why it can 'land' at over 100 mph.
The guns are there for reasons. :P
Interesting fact: Except for the two winglets on the blades, there are no other actual flight surfaces on this 'aircraft'.
You need to be up pretty high for this to work properly.
A good height to start from is over 30k, it gives you time to make mistakes and recover.
It will take some time to go very high as it has a single motor.
There have been zero mods used in this.
They should look up the game Freelancer (Discovery Mod) and build some ships from that.
If everyone or anyone wants to see more of my strange experiments along this line, let me know and I'll post them.
I have one that more less works, that is, it will get down again without losing too many parts on landing, without using the engine.
The surprising part is that it only has two small horizontal stabilizers on the end of two long structural panels, not structural wings, just panels.
Maybe this should be a challenge, the winner gets free web cookies. lol
EDIT: Instead of adding another post to my comment count, I'm doing this.
Mess with this in any way you want, if you can get it -or- a/your version of it down in one piece, post it!
I'm also working on a version of this that has guns, LOTS and LOTS of guns, kind of like a 'sky porcupine'.
Like it says on the box, this is an experiment. It looks at 'auto rotation' something helicopter pilots are trained to do if the engine fails, except with this you don't have access to the sort of pitch control a helicopter has.
Have fun, made for a bit of a laugh.
Work on the turret is on hold, until I can figure out a way to make what I want to do happen.
My second go at making a rocket, my first go at making a rocket that could be real.
I also had a go at adding some detail, the black/dark gray leading edge on the wings/tail/nose and the cargo bay doors. Thought about putting 'tile markings' on the wings and tail, but that would have been way too fiddly and time consuming.
As noted in the description, this jet is from the deck of the CVN-71.
I got it by accident while I was clearing the deck of the CVN-71 to make it load faster on my PC and decided to make it fly, if I could.
Things done;
overhauled engines
straightened wings
flattened out a few bumps
replaced static landing gear with fully operational gear.
Repaired wing cannons
Added Interceptor missiles.
Apart from those things, this aircraft is as I found it.
I hold no claim on this aircraft.
Now a tag for @gunkanmarch.
Did I miss acknowledgements for anyone? If so, who?
@gunkanmarch Of course, I mentioned that in the first post I made in this thread, which was one of the reasons I posted in the first place.
I'll upload sometime in the next few days, work and xmas stuff happening and that.
I'll tag you so you know when it happens and you can let me know if I miss mentioning anyone who needs to mentioned.
@Minecraftpoweer Nope, had no idea that it wasn't doable until I tried. I learned something along the way too.
I can now make mods, albeit simple ones.
@Minecraftpoweer Discovered by trial and error that you can not mix and match properties from one part with another.
Simply put, you can not add the tracking part from a missile to a rotator/hinge and have it show up as a mod, they plain old do not like each other.
Once the week end hits, I'm going to try and make rotator/hinge in one part, something that will point up and down AND go around in a circle.
@gunkanmarch Just asking if it was ok to upload the aircraft, as I did not make it and do not want people to think I stole it and uploaded without permission.