@Patrick20206 well not really. its like air races. you need to build in a way that suits the AI. because the AI will not try to fit you. I"ve built a few cars my self that can do all the races except air strip drag so far. you simply just need to not have degrees of turn on a wheel so high. and compensate for this.
Rear tire negines. 275HP. 2 front engines. 125HP. all springs all settings 100%. traction settings. manual. rear wheels : 100% forwards 150% side ways. front: 50% forwards. 100% sideways. and just have both front wheels set to the same engine. thats what I tested and was good. you'd have too much power again. (and don't removei t you want more weight as it is) it may seem a bit slow but in an actuall off road senerio its pretty fast.
@LuKorp didn't know that but its not like mobile has all the race tracks in the first place. there arep lenty on the destert island including one car race already.
@bspboy Ok a few major things. 1: it has a bit to much engine power for how light weight it is. 2 the supension is too stiff it bounces way it high on bumps
@emptybox well no honestly in player control. its perfect for racing. (just a bit of instability issues here and there involving tire grip). I just did my tests with personal (and AI) control on the new beta racing tracks because what beter way to test it than with the new tracks? they're not that hard on a vehicle honestly for the most part. just a few parts of them are.
@emptybox I drove it on the actual new steam beta race tracks. one being dirty run and the other snow crawl. changing the wheels to off road (or tractor which are cooler looking off road wheels and that's it) it handles the track pretty good. except the tracks will cause nearly any vehicle to go air borne in awkward angles. causing rolling and other such things. your vehicle is good but can't counter this. that's not to say its detrimental. there is auto flipping systems in place that flips you after you are stuck on your roof or side for a few seconds. its just you'll tend to bust the top part holding the suspension and the next bump you hit will destroy the whole thing. and even if it doesn't' you do the rest of the race pulling to the left slow.
as for on road. well. again. AI control is bad. the AI loves to over steer. so you'll have to learn for that later. but just for normal driving. even just tapping left and right will cause it to lose control is my point.
@emptybox well in terms of AI control. it has too much steering room. but thats a simple change of traction and steering. other wise its fine except ONE issue. it is good in jump zone. but thats because the jumps there are flat and even. you won't roll and flip. in the off road races you're going to be getting air time. (not extreme air time like jump zone) And it will cause you to roll and flip. it has nothing to counter htat. so in the future if you make a race version for hte AI to contorl you'll want to add something for that. on road it also seems to have a bit of a stability issue. which I"d suggest more tire grip. otherwise its pretty great. teh suspension handles impacts great. its fast. looks great. good job.
@emptybox i'm guessing by the word "should" You built this on mobile and you do not have the new tracks. in which case I'll throw them on the tracks for ya and see how it does.
@KingDeadshot the AI doesn't distinguish a car and a plane. in the car races it simply uses roll comand and roll only. the AI has been capable of turning on roll only for a long time (because some planes don't roll they just turn). cars are no different.
Awsome. but. the rear landing gear is a bit short. and don't entirly support the center of mass (it likes to top back onto its tail if given a little bump when you spawn in)
How about more bombs? they'd be easy to add. we have a 250 pound and a 500. why not 100, 1000 options? how about a 5000kg russian bomb. because I want to see a true PE-8 :D
@Hellohi people are complaining about how nudging parts is allowed in tournaments because basic game play features are apparently bad if only some mobile users can't use them yet.
@TheChosenZebra its a racing tournament. not a beauty contest. you will have to put up with who wins no matter what because its the performance of the plane that determines the winner.
@Alienbeef0421 trust me on this. the AI doens't do good with the pitch plus this helps your accelleration. jsut set the pitch to fixed 80%. going to 90 or 100 doesn't even help your speed any how.
@jamesPLANESii you're still complaining about nudging? get over that. the devs are going to need to add some control for mobiles version that cant use it. just get over it. its a basic game play feature.
@jamesPLANESii I've already told you. just go to my page. look at my planes. the P-58 on my featured section is a perfect example of one that doesn't use nudging.
The one part your'e missing is optimizing the propellers. you need to set each engine to 125 in diameter 1.7 thickness. fixed pitch at 80% excetp the one on the rear. which you set the thickness to 1.7 keep the diamiter the same and set it to -80%
@marcox43 well the next tournament could be any thing. really. considering the last one was bandit run prop despite already doing a bandit run tournament before hand. I hope its one of the new tracks in unlimited.
@jamesPLANESii you didn't win. you're just crying. stop crying about basic gameplay features and a mod that didn't even make his plane any better because rotating wings doens't give you an advantage.
@jamesPLANESii is that all this is about? the wings not being connected? because nudging is a basic GAMEplay feature? stop your crying about it my god. you of all people have no right to argue because you don't have a single pure functioning plane. I doubt you're putting any real effort int any entry you put in. so learn to deal with it becuase its not going away.
@pilotred233 and his mod didn't offer ANY advantage. the only changes he made that gave an advantage used basic game play functions which include nudging and the camera trick that lets you put engiens on the inside. his "mod" didn't affect the planes performance at all. so really. stop complaining. you can build a plane just as good as his with out nudging. or minimal. look at Tully2001's entry for example. if it wasn't for the AI crashing it he'd have won.
@jamesPLANESii THEN GET GOOD. its a basic nudge tool that they're using. no mods. nothing. just game play features. that you don't even need to build planes that function this good.
Instead of complaining that nudging is giving unfair advantages and then acting like they're special mods which they're NOT. go ask the devs to update mobile to allow nudging. because some mobile users can use nudging. and others can't.
@EliteSteel and guess what. by taking that away. that's going to be pissing off those who paid to play their gmae on PC being punished for a basic game feature.
@Patrick20206 well not really. its like air races. you need to build in a way that suits the AI. because the AI will not try to fit you. I"ve built a few cars my self that can do all the races except air strip drag so far. you simply just need to not have degrees of turn on a wheel so high. and compensate for this.
Rear tire negines. 275HP. 2 front engines. 125HP. all springs all settings 100%. traction settings. manual. rear wheels : 100% forwards 150% side ways. front: 50% forwards. 100% sideways. and just have both front wheels set to the same engine. thats what I tested and was good. you'd have too much power again. (and don't removei t you want more weight as it is) it may seem a bit slow but in an actuall off road senerio its pretty fast.
@LuKorp didn't know that but its not like mobile has all the race tracks in the first place. there arep lenty on the destert island including one car race already.
@bspboy Ok a few major things. 1: it has a bit to much engine power for how light weight it is. 2 the supension is too stiff it bounces way it high on bumps
@bspboy give me a few minutes to test it. I"m modifying one of my designs for a new track.
@bspboy oh lol.
@Tully2001 so back to the topic. your thoughts?
@Tully2001 ah thanks.
@Tully2001 try what?
@emptybox well no honestly in player control. its perfect for racing. (just a bit of instability issues here and there involving tire grip). I just did my tests with personal (and AI) control on the new beta racing tracks because what beter way to test it than with the new tracks? they're not that hard on a vehicle honestly for the most part. just a few parts of them are.
Have you tried it on the new race tracks in the beta?
@emptybox I drove it on the actual new steam beta race tracks. one being dirty run and the other snow crawl. changing the wheels to off road (or tractor which are cooler looking off road wheels and that's it) it handles the track pretty good. except the tracks will cause nearly any vehicle to go air borne in awkward angles. causing rolling and other such things. your vehicle is good but can't counter this. that's not to say its detrimental. there is auto flipping systems in place that flips you after you are stuck on your roof or side for a few seconds. its just you'll tend to bust the top part holding the suspension and the next bump you hit will destroy the whole thing. and even if it doesn't' you do the rest of the race pulling to the left slow.
as for on road. well. again. AI control is bad. the AI loves to over steer. so you'll have to learn for that later. but just for normal driving. even just tapping left and right will cause it to lose control is my point.
@ACMECo1940 I know.... I put it there :/
@emptybox well in terms of AI control. it has too much steering room. but thats a simple change of traction and steering. other wise its fine except ONE issue. it is good in jump zone. but thats because the jumps there are flat and even. you won't roll and flip. in the off road races you're going to be getting air time. (not extreme air time like jump zone) And it will cause you to roll and flip. it has nothing to counter htat. so in the future if you make a race version for hte AI to contorl you'll want to add something for that. on road it also seems to have a bit of a stability issue. which I"d suggest more tire grip. otherwise its pretty great. teh suspension handles impacts great. its fast. looks great. good job.
@emptybox i'm guessing by the word "should" You built this on mobile and you do not have the new tracks. in which case I'll throw them on the tracks for ya and see how it does.
If its off road why does it have street tires? also how does it do on the new race tracks?
@KingDeadshot the AI doesn't distinguish a car and a plane. in the car races it simply uses roll comand and roll only. the AI has been capable of turning on roll only for a long time (because some planes don't roll they just turn). cars are no different.
@Sunnyskies allright then. fair point.
Awsome. but. the rear landing gear is a bit short. and don't entirly support the center of mass (it likes to top back onto its tail if given a little bump when you spawn in)
@WNP78 again. lots of work. just for a modded part. I want these as default options in game.
@WNP78 it won't explode larger and that will take a lot of work for simply just a modded bomb.
@PhilipTarpley what advantage to the tractor wheels give over off road or street?
What advantage do the tractor wheels give over offroad or street?
@WNP78 I could scale a bomb up. but it won't weigh 5000kg and it wont explode like a PE-8 5000kg bomb.
How about more bombs? they'd be easy to add. we have a 250 pound and a 500. why not 100, 1000 options? how about a 5000kg russian bomb. because I want to see a true PE-8 :D
fastest engine ever? ok sure but its not even usable for any thing other than... breaking the game.
@robloxweponco I don't know. I got it off some hold modded plane I found. but most planes I've made that use this engine go past 4000mph
@Hellohi people are complaining about how nudging parts is allowed in tournaments because basic game play features are apparently bad if only some mobile users can't use them yet.
@TheChosenZebra its a racing tournament. not a beauty contest. you will have to put up with who wins no matter what because its the performance of the plane that determines the winner.
hints for the next tournament? @AndrewGarrison ?
@AirplaneBro the replay is uploaded on youtube.
@Alienbeef0421 trust me on this. the AI doens't do good with the pitch plus this helps your accelleration. jsut set the pitch to fixed 80%. going to 90 or 100 doesn't even help your speed any how.
@mrniceguy and your point is?
@jamesPLANESii then stop complaining that a plane using it won and complain to the devs that they need to let all versions have a way to use it.
@Generalkeath then ask the devs enldlessly to let mobile nudge. because its a basic game play mechanic PC and some mobile users can use.
@jamesPLANESii you're still complaining about nudging? get over that. the devs are going to need to add some control for mobiles version that cant use it. just get over it. its a basic game play feature.
@jamesPLANESii I've already told you. just go to my page. look at my planes. the P-58 on my featured section is a perfect example of one that doesn't use nudging.
The one part your'e missing is optimizing the propellers. you need to set each engine to 125 in diameter 1.7 thickness. fixed pitch at 80% excetp the one on the rear. which you set the thickness to 1.7 keep the diamiter the same and set it to -80%
@marcox43 well the next tournament could be any thing. really. considering the last one was bandit run prop despite already doing a bandit run tournament before hand. I hope its one of the new tracks in unlimited.
@Tully2001 exactly good point.
@Alienbeef0421 tell you what?
@jamesPLANESii you didn't win. you're just crying. stop crying about basic gameplay features and a mod that didn't even make his plane any better because rotating wings doens't give you an advantage.
@jamesPLANESii is that all this is about? the wings not being connected? because nudging is a basic GAMEplay feature? stop your crying about it my god. you of all people have no right to argue because you don't have a single pure functioning plane. I doubt you're putting any real effort int any entry you put in. so learn to deal with it becuase its not going away.
@pilotred233 and his mod didn't offer ANY advantage. the only changes he made that gave an advantage used basic game play functions which include nudging and the camera trick that lets you put engiens on the inside. his "mod" didn't affect the planes performance at all. so really. stop complaining. you can build a plane just as good as his with out nudging. or minimal. look at Tully2001's entry for example. if it wasn't for the AI crashing it he'd have won.
@jamesPLANESii also why are you of all people complaining? I don't see a single functional plane on your account
@jamesPLANESii THEN GET GOOD. its a basic nudge tool that they're using. no mods. nothing. just game play features. that you don't even need to build planes that function this good.
Instead of complaining that nudging is giving unfair advantages and then acting like they're special mods which they're NOT. go ask the devs to update mobile to allow nudging. because some mobile users can use nudging. and others can't.
@PlanesOfOld yea well guess waht. its not real life. its a game. and people are taking advantage of basic gameplay features. oh well.
@pilotred233 it is not modded. it uses nudging and camera tricks. WHICH ARE BASIC GAME PLAY FEATURES.
People have been using nudging and camera tricks for engiens for EVERY TOURNAMENT THUS FAR? WHY IS IT A PROBLEM NOW PEOPLE????
@EliteSteel and guess what. by taking that away. that's going to be pissing off those who paid to play their gmae on PC being punished for a basic game feature.