@spefyjerbf As far as how to "explode" the diagram, a simple spherical translation from the center of mass outwards would suffice, then you could zoom in on the lines to/from the pieces in question.
@spefyjerbf You should be able to zoom in and out in 3D. This would be used to identify problems and make precise placements, not to get an overview of all 300 parts at once.
You want that detacher connected to the fuselage not the rotator? Well in schematic view you could specifically target that connection and edit it, or at the very least identify if it is or is not attached correctly.
@MrMecha There is typically no good single source for this information but there are things you can use to interpolate between reality and the game engine. Some things I do:
Google/reference books to find things such as stall speeds and AOA, airframe G-load tolerances, minimum radius turn, top speeds at sea level and at altitude, pitch and roll rates, etc.
Then I edit engine performance to match the speeds and climb rate as well as I can, edit wing size/shape to replicate the stalling characteristics, liftoff speed, and lift profile as well as I can, and edit control surfaces to match the pitch/roll rate and turn radius.
In terms of performance scaling we don't really have the tools to do it perfectly in SimplePlanes since we have no information in the UI/HUD showing things like AOA, G, etc. but we can approximate it closely enough for a low-fidelity sim engine like this.
I also did an example of some math to calculate the G felt in a turn/loop in the comments section of a YouTube video I posted. This is how I scaled one aspect of the performance of a fictional jet that I made.
@MrMecha thanks. It's important to me that all users are able to enjoy my builds. I think it's possible to get a respectable amount of detail while still being less than 300 parts for normal-size airplanes!
Tag me in an unlisted link and let me know which color (position 0-14 in the color selection) you want made super glossy. When I get home from work this afternoon I'll edit it for you.
@ShockRF Sorry to hear that! If you want a more video game-like flight experience you can make the elevator larger which will let the trim work better!
@jamesPLANESii Computers can handle network style diagrams with ease. Look at space sims like Elite Dangerous, the galactic map has trillions of systems all connected in a spiderweb. SP can surely handle 10,000 :)
Edit: Plus, from what I've seen, the average creation is <300 parts. Sure there are masterpieces out there in the thousands, but for general purpose we're not talking more than a few hundred.
@SpiritusRaptor well, I was going to build this next but I'll just go ahead and find a new project to work on :P This thing is perfect.
Question: Do you use gyros to stabilize your planes? I'm interested in learning how to use them and how they are implemented in this game. I'm perfectly familiar with the physics of them in real life, just not sure how to do them in SP.
@Stingray I'm not sure I understand... all that the Activation group does for a missile is make it fire without lock on... is this strictly something that's important to do when using it as AI in a dogfight?
@TTHHSSSS saw your thrust vectoring jet, thought you might like flying this one too. This one's purely fictional, but built for the kind of handling your jet has.
@goboybo1 @Planefun @MeawkQ @ChaMikey @ Ctracerx2 @ TTHHSSSS @ LegnaK @Fishbowl1121 @Tully2001 @aircraftarsenal123 @t8erh8er thanks for your motivation in this thread. I updated the original post with the latest photos and the release link. I hope you enjoy!
@NativeChief1492 it trims at cruise speed, at slower speeds the trim is not enough to overcome but I can't change the trim range in XML. If I increased the range of the elevator then it exhibited some adverse roll tendencies. The majority of time is spent at cruise speeds though, so I opted to balance it best in that range.
@aircraftarsenal123 i was thinking the same about the details - few antennas, guns, exhaust, and a couple insignia. It lands very well! I cant wait to share it with everyone, its so much fun to fly.
Looks like a tire to me! Clever.
@AndrewGarrison do you ever consider making stickies on the forum?
@skua @thelatentimage
Can we get mods to take action on this, this is not even close to appropriate.
@EliteIndustries1 As long as someone benefits from it, I'm happy to have helped.
@PorkyClown3
My New XML Editing Tutorial
Plane for XML Editing Guide
Refer to section 4.6.0.0 Coloring / Materials
Yea well I have a stalker but I'm not telling you who because I respect her privacy.
I don't get it.
@EliteIndustries1 I did.
Download Link for Tutorial Aircraft
Awesome! This is one of my favorites of all time to!
@SpiritusRaptor I see - I use a joystick to play so I wasn't thinking about the keyboard users. Good call.
@spefyjerbf As far as how to "explode" the diagram, a simple spherical translation from the center of mass outwards would suffice, then you could zoom in on the lines to/from the pieces in question.
@spefyjerbf You should be able to zoom in and out in 3D. This would be used to identify problems and make precise placements, not to get an overview of all 300 parts at once.
You want that detacher connected to the fuselage not the rotator? Well in schematic view you could specifically target that connection and edit it, or at the very least identify if it is or is not attached correctly.
@ZephyrSystems It's such an amazing plane, it's not surprising a lot of people build it! I hope to get to fly one for real some day.
@MrMecha There is typically no good single source for this information but there are things you can use to interpolate between reality and the game engine. Some things I do:
Google/reference books to find things such as stall speeds and AOA, airframe G-load tolerances, minimum radius turn, top speeds at sea level and at altitude, pitch and roll rates, etc.
Then I edit engine performance to match the speeds and climb rate as well as I can, edit wing size/shape to replicate the stalling characteristics, liftoff speed, and lift profile as well as I can, and edit control surfaces to match the pitch/roll rate and turn radius.
In terms of performance scaling we don't really have the tools to do it perfectly in SimplePlanes since we have no information in the UI/HUD showing things like AOA, G, etc. but we can approximate it closely enough for a low-fidelity sim engine like this.
I also did an example of some math to calculate the G felt in a turn/loop in the comments section of a YouTube video I posted. This is how I scaled one aspect of the performance of a fictional jet that I made.
Link here
Hope this helps!
I enjoy builds like this. FYI: You can add the following tag to each part's XML line to manually edit the weight:
massScale="X.X"
For example, if a 100 pound part reads:
....materials="14,11" scale="1,1,2.3"...
You can edit it to weigh 30 pounds by changing the line to read:
...materials="14,12" scale="1,1,2.3" massScale="0.3" ....
@Luuk2909 good deal, I'll get it when I get home!
@MrMecha thanks. It's important to me that all users are able to enjoy my builds. I think it's possible to get a respectable amount of detail while still being less than 300 parts for normal-size airplanes!
@Luuk2909 What I mean is which color in the paint options do you want me to make glossy?
Color 00, Color 01, Color 02, Color 03, Color 04
Color 05, Color 06, Color 07, Color 08, Color 09
Color 10, Color 11, Color 12, Color 13, Color 14
@Luuk2909 Thanks!
Tag me in an unlisted link and let me know which color (position 0-14 in the color selection) you want made super glossy. When I get home from work this afternoon I'll edit it for you.
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@ShockRF Sorry to hear that! If you want a more video game-like flight experience you can make the elevator larger which will let the trim work better!
@jamesPLANESii Computers can handle network style diagrams with ease. Look at space sims like Elite Dangerous, the galactic map has trillions of systems all connected in a spiderweb. SP can surely handle 10,000 :)
Edit: Plus, from what I've seen, the average creation is <300 parts. Sure there are masterpieces out there in the thousands, but for general purpose we're not talking more than a few hundred.
@SpiritusRaptor well, I was going to build this next but I'll just go ahead and find a new project to work on :P This thing is perfect.
Question: Do you use gyros to stabilize your planes? I'm interested in learning how to use them and how they are implemented in this game. I'm perfectly familiar with the physics of them in real life, just not sure how to do them in SP.
Thanks!
Pitch and yaw/roll would have been much easier to aim at those darn zombies with, but I managed to headshot them all regardless. Mad cool.
@BaconAircraft When I saw it I just had to make it fly.
I couldn't help myself I had to make it fly. This is a neat looking building. Now to land a helicopter on that middle pad....hmm.
Very nice!
@PotatoPoweredComputer ha!
Love this era of aviation.
** THAT FISH!!!
This is so creative and awesome I want to upvote it twice.
@speedy7809 just curious, what was it?
Woah, thanks for the feature and support everyone! And special thanks to @bjac0 @ChaMikey and @TAplanes for the spotlights.
@Stingray I'm not sure I understand... all that the Activation group does for a missile is make it fire without lock on... is this strictly something that's important to do when using it as AI in a dogfight?
This might be the most awesome thing ever.
@TTHHSSSS saw your thrust vectoring jet, thought you might like flying this one too. This one's purely fictional, but built for the kind of handling your jet has.
I love this kind of plane. Really fun to fly.
This is awesome.
Thanks everyone for the support and @90corvette @Planefun @TTHHSSSS @NativeChief1492 and @Ctracerx2 for the spotlights - means a lot.
@goboybo1 @Planefun @MeawkQ @ChaMikey @ Ctracerx2 @ TTHHSSSS @ LegnaK @Fishbowl1121 @Tully2001 @aircraftarsenal123 @t8erh8er thanks for your motivation in this thread. I updated the original post with the latest photos and the release link. I hope you enjoy!
@NativeChief1492 it trims at cruise speed, at slower speeds the trim is not enough to overcome but I can't change the trim range in XML. If I increased the range of the elevator then it exhibited some adverse roll tendencies. The majority of time is spent at cruise speeds though, so I opted to balance it best in that range.
Thanks for the feedback I'll see what I can do.
@MaximusTheMinimus Thanks, I'm glad you enjoy it!
@aircraftarsenal123 i was thinking the same about the details - few antennas, guns, exhaust, and a couple insignia. It lands very well! I cant wait to share it with everyone, its so much fun to fly.
It fliiiiies! New photos.
@aircraftarsenal123 What do you think I should do? My options are simple (for performance) or all-out (landing gear, decals, maybe cockpit).
Right now it flies like a DREAM. I'm worried if I start putting decals on it it's going to develop the dreaded yaw bug.
Tail finished!
@Testin123
Press Windows+R and type the following:
%appdata%
then press Enter.
From there navigate to:
AppData\LocalLow\Jundroo\SimplePlanes
Inside the SimplePlanes folder you can backup the Aircraft and Subassembly folders.
If restarting the game doesn't work just reinstall it.