@edensk yeah ik the engines could never get there, but im saying it would have diff engines just saying the route he took was different than i would expect but its cool
actually advanced IR missiles like the AIM-9X Block II also have optical tracking combined with IR so it could still shoot it down that way. dont forget radar guided missiles as well as this aircraft is sure to have a large radar signature. i bet at close range you could still get an AIM-120B on target @X4JB
yes ships do have s band radar but again that gets a detect not a track you cannot launch missiles on a detect only. it effectively turns the radar into a advanced warning system diminishing most of the danger for the F-35. @CharlesDeGaulle
I also noticed you pointed out the rafale could detect the F-35 on its radar, when in reality the F-35 has only been detected (not tracked) by long band radar. The rafale like all other fighters have short band. Even if it was detected, the radar would only give a general direction of where the plane is and you could not get a track or a lock. IRST on the other hand could detect an F-35 from a side or rear aspect or even a front aspect depending on how fast the F-35 is going. Even if the IRST gets a track at long-range any radar-guided missiles would be useless because when they go mad dog they would not detect the F-35 or they would easily be duped by countermeasures. Any IR-guided missiles would only be fired within around 10 miles so any long-range track with the IRST would be useless.
You said stealth isn't important and I must disagree, not being able to get a track on a plane is very important combat point. If he can fire a missile at you from 20nm and you can only fire from 10 you are at a great disadvantage. I hope you found this information useful and if you have any further questions i would be happy to answer them for you. :)
Just as a reference point, the F-15EX is powered by two GE-110s which each produce 29000lbs of thrust the Rafale has two engine with 17000lbs of thrust. While the F-15EX is substantially heavier it still has the possibility of beating the rafale. Especially since the engines are brand new and the readings of lbs of thrust are normally much lower than the actual on newer engines
I will agree the Rafale is a very good plane and is actually one of my favorites in terms of appearance and kinematics. Also the Gripen is another favorite would be cool if you posted some of the data from the newer one. Also what model of the F-15 are you comparing because the new F-15EX has much better engines than the previous versions and could have a good chance of beating the Rafale in a few categories.
Also, you are comparing single-engine fighters to dual-engine fighters so of course, the acceleration and combat radius are going to be higher for those dual-engine fighters. Honestly in kinematics its not very fair to compare the F-35 to the Rafale. F-15 and F-18 are free game though.
One more thing the speed for the F-22 is in theory much higher because of drag. The Rafale could probably hit 2.2-2.3 but could not hit the 2.8 mark like the raptor is speculated to be able to. The raptor has an FCAS limit however because it will cause damage to the antiradiation coating above that speed so it would most likely go no faster than 2.3.
F-22 can hit mach 1.8 and is speculated to go even faster even up to mach 2.3 or even mach 2.8 there is an FCAS limit on the plane however which is speculated to limit it to mach 2.3 the US isn't very transparent with these numbers but there is a good deal of evidence to support the speculation. just something you could add :)
this might help with some of your questionsI believe the C-130J is the variant that was converted to the gunship as the -30 model i believe was made after the ac-130j was introduced
good job! something seems a bit off though maybe the tail is too large or its not long enough or maybe im just used to the j version. speeds up a little fast but its not bad at all! keep up the good work!
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lol @asteroidbook345
so uh that first picture actually violates site rules 😐
lighter and turn down the shininess a bit
@edensk yeah ik the engines could never get there, but im saying it would have diff engines just saying the route he took was different than i would expect but its cool
this is not ok buddy you didnt even change anything
yeah! i love the way you made the wings btw rlly good job! @RachelGardner
really good job especially on the wings and the flight model certainly got some attention. I love it! keep it up!
so in theory one could do this...
https://memeguy.com/photos/images/-ikea-362747.jpg
cool
rlly good job!
perfect. seriously one of my favorite builds
@Thecatbaron visibly turned on lmao lets go
whoa nice
you said yall
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IM POOR I SHOULD HAVE BEEN DOING THIS WITH SOME OF MY 3D MODELING STUFF!!! UGWY BUDBGSAKDNGFJAKDJMAI
lmao we could have been making money this whole time
nvm i got it. looks like a ton of bogdan stuff and some asteroidbook and a lot of other low part count stuff
im sure the team at jundroo is working on obtaining an ip and lawsuit or at least a cease and desist order
because pencil sausage.
pin it
no i didnt ask for that @X4JB
and also as we have see in the past few days plane= hate crime
so yeah
ah yes a key piece of information @frame
see a potato almost wiped out a whole country
no plane i know has done that 😂
actually advanced IR missiles like the AIM-9X Block II also have optical tracking combined with IR so it could still shoot it down that way. dont forget radar guided missiles as well as this aircraft is sure to have a large radar signature. i bet at close range you could still get an AIM-120B on target @X4JB
yes ships do have s band radar but again that gets a detect not a track you cannot launch missiles on a detect only. it effectively turns the radar into a advanced warning system diminishing most of the danger for the F-35. @CharlesDeGaulle
@ChiChiWerx howd I do? lol
I also noticed you pointed out the rafale could detect the F-35 on its radar, when in reality the F-35 has only been detected (not tracked) by long band radar. The rafale like all other fighters have short band. Even if it was detected, the radar would only give a general direction of where the plane is and you could not get a track or a lock. IRST on the other hand could detect an F-35 from a side or rear aspect or even a front aspect depending on how fast the F-35 is going. Even if the IRST gets a track at long-range any radar-guided missiles would be useless because when they go mad dog they would not detect the F-35 or they would easily be duped by countermeasures. Any IR-guided missiles would only be fired within around 10 miles so any long-range track with the IRST would be useless.
You said stealth isn't important and I must disagree, not being able to get a track on a plane is very important combat point. If he can fire a missile at you from 20nm and you can only fire from 10 you are at a great disadvantage. I hope you found this information useful and if you have any further questions i would be happy to answer them for you. :)
Just as a reference point, the F-15EX is powered by two GE-110s which each produce 29000lbs of thrust the Rafale has two engine with 17000lbs of thrust. While the F-15EX is substantially heavier it still has the possibility of beating the rafale. Especially since the engines are brand new and the readings of lbs of thrust are normally much lower than the actual on newer engines
I will agree the Rafale is a very good plane and is actually one of my favorites in terms of appearance and kinematics. Also the Gripen is another favorite would be cool if you posted some of the data from the newer one. Also what model of the F-15 are you comparing because the new F-15EX has much better engines than the previous versions and could have a good chance of beating the Rafale in a few categories.
Also, you are comparing single-engine fighters to dual-engine fighters so of course, the acceleration and combat radius are going to be higher for those dual-engine fighters. Honestly in kinematics its not very fair to compare the F-35 to the Rafale. F-15 and F-18 are free game though.
One more thing the speed for the F-22 is in theory much higher because of drag. The Rafale could probably hit 2.2-2.3 but could not hit the 2.8 mark like the raptor is speculated to be able to. The raptor has an FCAS limit however because it will cause damage to the antiradiation coating above that speed so it would most likely go no faster than 2.3.
F-22 can hit mach 1.8 and is speculated to go even faster even up to mach 2.3 or even mach 2.8 there is an FCAS limit on the plane however which is speculated to limit it to mach 2.3 the US isn't very transparent with these numbers but there is a good deal of evidence to support the speculation. just something you could add :)
I really like it you should do your next video in the pre-production green aluminum
also make sure to yell backblast 😂
so did you use one of those rocket motors and make a projectile for it?
the biggest thing on the j is brand new turboprops btw @OtakuNekoToT
c-103j-30 was the one that is extended by 15ft
this might help with some of your questionsI believe the C-130J is the variant that was converted to the gunship as the -30 model i believe was made after the ac-130j was introduced
of course! @OtakuNekoToT
yes the apache is a very complex shape as well refer to some 3D models to help you
dont use nozzles just use the rotor part and turn off all the torque scalars on the main rotor
ah yes bc flashy green markings would definitely help in a combat scenario
good job! something seems a bit off though maybe the tail is too large or its not long enough or maybe im just used to the j version. speeds up a little fast but its not bad at all! keep up the good work!
I was trying to do this a while ago. Good job you figured it out!
cool!
i feel so dumb rn ahahahahhaa @rexzion
wait rlly @rexzion
i cant even panel so kudos to you