I really love this. I’ve seen some great ornithopters on SP but I’ve never seen one that is in a semi-realistic style, with a cockpit and everything (cockpit is great by the way). The wing flap function is smooth and effective. The benefits to using the infinite rotator to power flapping wings is that the power delivery is smooth, quiet, and reliable. The drawback to using it as power for an ornithopter is 1)it’s either 0 or 100% power, nothing in the middle, and 2) at 0% throttle, it starts going backwards to get back to the original angular position (which you know, of course). So the system you devised with the hinge rotators to rectify both of those problems is absolutely brilliant! And another great thing about this setup is that the wings always come to rest at 0% throttle at the exact same angle no matter what, so there’s no fussing around with getting them in the right angle for gliding or landing, which is like, an SP ornithopter benchmark imo. Also, making an ornithopter that can take off and land well is rather difficult, and this one does both beautifully. You did some really great work here, I’m very impressed! Looking forward to seeing what else you come up with!
I honestly was just thinking how the heck did I never come across this before? Lol crazy. I just recently noticed this on one of his planes and it blew my mind and now it blew my mind again how simple it is. @randomusername
Ooh, triple decker! lol. I hope you put fancy suspension on it… you know with the Funky Trees function you could program/build some pretty awesome active suspension, like I think the NBFL has irl, no? @TDCraft
Yeah I guess the proportions are a bit off. I guess I could change that by scaling it a bit more and making the wings 3 ft longer. But the plane got featured so I’m leaving it up. I’ll think about posting an update. Thanks for the feedback :) @Chancey21
For sure I think it’s a really cool concept! I had a couple thoughts if it’s of interest to you — 1) I thought it had too much power… I set it to 150 and I thought the acceleration was more realistic. 2) maybe you could change the input on the doors to [Activate4] for convenience? 3) I think it’d be nice if you added one or two cameras inside so we could get a perspective from one or two would-be passengers in different spots… other than that I think it’s really creative, would be a really neat thing to see this driving around the streets of London @TDCraft
Nice work! Flies well, landing gear is great! If I could add a little constructive criticism; proportions are a little off. Wings specifically. For a jet this size/type, you want the wingspan to be about the same length as the fuselage. Maybe even slightly wider I guess. And you want the wings to attach at almost exactly the halfway point on the fuselage, right in the middle. If it were a jet where the engines were mounted on the tail section, then the primary wings would be mounted even further aft. Also the stabilizer wings on the tail section could be a little smaller and thinner (surface area wise, not the thickness of the airfoil). But overall a very cool plane! Hope those suggestions were welcome. If not, you can let me know not to do so in the future.
Weather gets pretty crazy sometimes. I like it when you see a rain cloud a mile or two away that’s dumping rain and has a very clearly defined border where the rain stops.
All that extremum stuff? Yeah I’ve never touched that since I’ve absolutely no idea what it means lol. But thanks for the tip, I will definitely play around with it!
@jamesPLANESii
This is my favorite plane of yours yet, which is saying a lot. I’m gonna go ahead and speak for the entire SP community and say thank you for enriching our lives with such brilliant builds.
One technical question; what functional parts did you use for the flaps (not the cosmetic flaps), and how are they setup? I noticed how they function in a more realistic way (I think), where ~0 to 3/4 the nose pitches up increasingly, but >3/4, the nose starts to pitch back down, and drag increases more significantly. Is there an air brake part involved?
Thank you for posting, as usual, I am so impressed.
This is a spectacularly great build. Usually builds with mechanical linkages/control surfaces look very clunky, and often are slightly disappointing in performance. This build looks fantastic and flies incredibly well. Your skills never cease to amaze me!
@Chancey21 is right, you should definitely do a seaplane version with custom wings! If you get stuck on how to create a good airfoil shape, just tear apart some of Chancey’s planes to see how he builds it. I like how you used the small rotators and separate wing parts to make the control surfaces, rather than doing it the conventional way. Pretty creative! My intuition tells me you’ve already got the makings of a top builder inside you. Keep it up! ;) @Cardboard
Also, just looking at the plane, proportionally, I’d say the primary wings should be longer and wider to fit with the length and size of the fuselage, and the size of the stabilizers. So it might be convenient for you to just increase the size of the primary wings and maybe not have to worry about xml editing at all. Like I said, the plane flies great. But for STOL, it would help to get the stall speed down some. Ideally, like 40-45 mph... it’s tricky but you can do it! Haha
Wow very very good build, I love it!!! I have two suggestions though, if you don’t mind;
1) you should xml scale down the cockpit block a lot, and paint it black, so that it is nearly invisible.
2) you should change the gyro settings so that the bike leans into its turns more. Also you might try separating the leaning and turning controls to roll and yaw respectively. At least, that’s how I like bikes in SP
This is a truly exceptional build. Absolutely deserves being featured. Everything is perfect. Such a great job OP, I can’t tell you how impressed I am.
Hahah. Well I haven’t built anything in over 2 years either so you’re in good company. Looking forward to it. Unless the part count is more than 1k, in which case my poor little phone will not run it. GOD I want to get on SP VR. @Chancey21
Sounds like a challenge! My knowledge about funky trees is also extremely limited, though I was able to incorporate a little of it into that warbird build by borrowing and modifying some programming from other people’s builds. I’m sure that with a little work I could learn how to at least do some of the basics. You’d have to describe to me what exactly it is you want the active suspension to do before I could have an idea of whether I could help lol @TDCraft
I really love this. I’ve seen some great ornithopters on SP but I’ve never seen one that is in a semi-realistic style, with a cockpit and everything (cockpit is great by the way). The wing flap function is smooth and effective. The benefits to using the infinite rotator to power flapping wings is that the power delivery is smooth, quiet, and reliable. The drawback to using it as power for an ornithopter is 1)it’s either 0 or 100% power, nothing in the middle, and 2) at 0% throttle, it starts going backwards to get back to the original angular position (which you know, of course). So the system you devised with the hinge rotators to rectify both of those problems is absolutely brilliant! And another great thing about this setup is that the wings always come to rest at 0% throttle at the exact same angle no matter what, so there’s no fussing around with getting them in the right angle for gliding or landing, which is like, an SP ornithopter benchmark imo. Also, making an ornithopter that can take off and land well is rather difficult, and this one does both beautifully. You did some really great work here, I’m very impressed! Looking forward to seeing what else you come up with!
+6I honestly was just thinking how the heck did I never come across this before? Lol crazy. I just recently noticed this on one of his planes and it blew my mind and now it blew my mind again how simple it is. @randomusername
+4You’ve done an excellent job demonstrating that in your work. @zap210
+4Ooh, triple decker! lol. I hope you put fancy suspension on it… you know with the Funky Trees function you could program/build some pretty awesome active suspension, like I think the NBFL has irl, no? @TDCraft
+3What a truly incredible plane. Just amazingly good. Good lord.
+3Thank you very much, I think they just might! @DepressedTortoise
+3Yeah I guess the proportions are a bit off. I guess I could change that by scaling it a bit more and making the wings 3 ft longer. But the plane got featured so I’m leaving it up. I’ll think about posting an update. Thanks for the feedback :) @Chancey21
+3Came out nice! Although yes, it’s hard to fly haha. The roll rate is practically zero haha
+3That’s great! — when are you going to post a new build? lol @Chancey21
+2For sure I think it’s a really cool concept! I had a couple thoughts if it’s of interest to you — 1) I thought it had too much power… I set it to 150 and I thought the acceleration was more realistic. 2) maybe you could change the input on the doors to [Activate4] for convenience? 3) I think it’d be nice if you added one or two cameras inside so we could get a perspective from one or two would-be passengers in different spots… other than that I think it’s really creative, would be a really neat thing to see this driving around the streets of London @TDCraft
+2Incredible build
+2Fantastic design
+2Damn shoulda posted my speedometer a week ago lol. Isn’t this good though good job.
+2Nice work! Flies well, landing gear is great! If I could add a little constructive criticism; proportions are a little off. Wings specifically. For a jet this size/type, you want the wingspan to be about the same length as the fuselage. Maybe even slightly wider I guess. And you want the wings to attach at almost exactly the halfway point on the fuselage, right in the middle. If it were a jet where the engines were mounted on the tail section, then the primary wings would be mounted even further aft. Also the stabilizer wings on the tail section could be a little smaller and thinner (surface area wise, not the thickness of the airfoil). But overall a very cool plane! Hope those suggestions were welcome. If not, you can let me know not to do so in the future.
+2Weather gets pretty crazy sometimes. I like it when you see a rain cloud a mile or two away that’s dumping rain and has a very clearly defined border where the rain stops.
+2Wow fantastic build.
+2Oh awesome thanks so much for posting a video! This coulda come in handy a long time ago, how is it that I never noticed?
+2Oops I’ve spotlighted too much today
+2So long and thanks for all the fish.
+2“My mouth is so dry I can’t close it” was my favorite thing. Looking forward to seeing what you come up with!
+2Lol stupid codsworth
+2All that extremum stuff? Yeah I’ve never touched that since I’ve absolutely no idea what it means lol. But thanks for the tip, I will definitely play around with it!
+2@jamesPLANESii
This is my favorite plane of yours yet, which is saying a lot. I’m gonna go ahead and speak for the entire SP community and say thank you for enriching our lives with such brilliant builds.
One technical question; what functional parts did you use for the flaps (not the cosmetic flaps), and how are they setup? I noticed how they function in a more realistic way (I think), where ~0 to 3/4 the nose pitches up increasingly, but >3/4, the nose starts to pitch back down, and drag increases more significantly. Is there an air brake part involved?
Thank you for posting, as usual, I am so impressed.
+2Sweet little truck! Fun, cool styling. Maybe just a tad more hpwr?
+2This is a spectacularly great build. Usually builds with mechanical linkages/control surfaces look very clunky, and often are slightly disappointing in performance. This build looks fantastic and flies incredibly well. Your skills never cease to amaze me!
+2@Chancey21 is right, you should definitely do a seaplane version with custom wings! If you get stuck on how to create a good airfoil shape, just tear apart some of Chancey’s planes to see how he builds it. I like how you used the small rotators and separate wing parts to make the control surfaces, rather than doing it the conventional way. Pretty creative! My intuition tells me you’ve already got the makings of a top builder inside you. Keep it up! ;) @Cardboard
+2Sigh. Don’t you ever get bored/tired of being so damn good at this?
+2See ya again soon! :) @JohnnyBoythePilot
+2Also, just looking at the plane, proportionally, I’d say the primary wings should be longer and wider to fit with the length and size of the fuselage, and the size of the stabilizers. So it might be convenient for you to just increase the size of the primary wings and maybe not have to worry about xml editing at all. Like I said, the plane flies great. But for STOL, it would help to get the stall speed down some. Ideally, like 40-45 mph... it’s tricky but you can do it! Haha
+2There are some absolutely amazing builders here on SP. But no other builder has blown my mind as unequivocally and consistently as you have.
+2Wow.
+2Don’t stall the STOL you stole. @Jetliner101
+2Spectacular, as usual haha
+2Those wheels are truly amazing.
+2Wow. Very good walker. Smooth, stable, functions very well. Excellent work.
+2Wow very very good build, I love it!!! I have two suggestions though, if you don’t mind;
1) you should xml scale down the cockpit block a lot, and paint it black, so that it is nearly invisible.
2) you should change the gyro settings so that the bike leans into its turns more. Also you might try separating the leaning and turning controls to roll and yaw respectively. At least, that’s how I like bikes in SP
Other than that it’s perfect!
+2Awesome!
+2Wow. This is really an incredible build. Amazing job, I love it.
+2Wow. Amazing build. I especially love the cockpit, the flaps, and the custom lg. Really incredible work, great job!
+2Looks great!!
+2Once again, fantastic build. Makes quick work of everything in the proving grounds. It has most definitely proven itself and so have you! Great job :)
+2Haha! @BaconRoll
+2Fantastic job! It is just such a cool plane, and you executed it flawlessly. So much fun to fly!! Have you thought about adding a cockpit?
+2Awesome build! P. S. I am totally jealous of your sweet IRL go kart!
+2Heck yeah man! @LiamW
+2Exactly! @LiamW @GenericWhiteGuy
+2This is a truly exceptional build. Absolutely deserves being featured. Everything is perfect. Such a great job OP, I can’t tell you how impressed I am.
+1What a crazy plane! Cool build man, fun :)
+1Hahah. Well I haven’t built anything in over 2 years either so you’re in good company. Looking forward to it. Unless the part count is more than 1k, in which case my poor little phone will not run it. GOD I want to get on SP VR. @Chancey21
+1Sounds like a challenge! My knowledge about funky trees is also extremely limited, though I was able to incorporate a little of it into that warbird build by borrowing and modifying some programming from other people’s builds. I’m sure that with a little work I could learn how to at least do some of the basics. You’d have to describe to me what exactly it is you want the active suspension to do before I could have an idea of whether I could help lol @TDCraft
+1