My habit of not completing challenge entries is getting ridiculous. I'm at literally half of the minimum part count and the paint job looks like it was made by a drunken baboon in a mud pit
What do you use for flight control? (keyboard, mouse, joystick, etc?)
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Because I've made a quasi-stable thrust-vectored aircraft that's capable of Lomcovak maneuvers but you need fine analogue control. Should I tune it for fine control or keyboard?
Yes you can. Just use this cheat sheet for every xml attribute. You can even make the guns look and function like lasers if you want (but they will sound like machine guns though)
@Maximum777 I'm happy to test and tune the full version once you've finished building it. I'm pretty confident my PC can handle anything you throw at it
@Maximum777 OK, so what I'm thinking of doing is this:
Shorten the 4-link setup on this vehicle by 75% and then copy it on to the front as well. Then we can build a body up from there
Build suspension first, then chassis, then body. If you do it the other way around, your suspension often doesn't work properly. Also make sure all suspension parts are connected to the right pieces. Try some mods like Overload, Fine Tuner and Designer Suite if you can
@Shanethepain1 ahhhh... a very common mistake that most players (even the top ones) make. You need to understand that shocks cant flex side to side like a slinky; they have a shaft forcing them to move up and down only. IRL, solid-axle suspension uses complicated linkages with ball joints and have the shocks also mounted on ball joints. Since there are no ball joints in simpleplanes, we have to make do with a bunch of hinges arranged in the right way. I would suggest copying the suspension from my car you tagged me on previously. Don't copy and paste the entire thing; instead, have a look at it and try to make it yourself. Fiddle with the hinges until it works (it took me months to make 4-link suspension work)
I can create the functional mechanism but I hope you can make it look pretty afterwards cos I don’t do looks very well. The previous time I tried to make it, I tried to replicate the actuator mechanism but it didn’t work. This time I’ll greatly simplify it to get it working
I had a look at that a long time ago but couldn’t get it working at the time. I haven’t opened simpleplanes for a very long time now so I may or may not get around to it. It’s a pretty cool vehicle though! @Shanethepain1
Normally I look at popular planes on this site and think about how incredibly poor the aerodynamic design is (not that it matters in SP so I don’t comment on it) but this thing is actually pretty damn good. The only potential issue I can think of is that pulling up hard at high speed could cut airflow to the engines but that isn’t too bad for a bomber.
I can’t say I’m an expert but I’ve done a lot of reading about it for an RC design. My verdict was that actively controlled split ailerons can be more stabilising for less weight and drag. They have less effect than a fully-moving rudder but the inherent instability of the aircraft aids maneuverability. You’ll also notice that many (if not most) publicised 6th gen concepts use split ailerons and thrust vectoring instead of fins. It’s all a matter of trade offs really @BogdanX
I’m actually not sure why fighter aircraft are still being designed with vertical fins. Since they are all fly-by-wire with no mechanical backup, there’s no safety difference between active and passive stabilisers. I guess it’s a political 'low risk' thing @BogdanX
Actually, they are completely unnecessary thanks to fly-by-wire control. Designs such as the X-36 use split ailerons connected to a gyro-computer to control yaw actively. The B-2 also has split ailerons as well as downwashed wingtips which provide the same effect as a vertical fin. That being said, you’ll need to put hidden ones in everything in this game because there is no fly-by-wire computer with custom PID controls @BogdanX
Yep. There’s a reason civilian STOL sport jets don’t exist. It’s possible but requires advanced composite material and fancy, well-designed aerodynamic features @CustomAircraftMods
Just need to clarify it a little. Some biplanes have staggered wings similar to a tandem wing design. I guess you mean it needs to have two completely separated main wings plus a stabiliser? @Othawne
Kind of. It’s an E voucher for a specific game. It’s a code that tells steam “I own this game now.” For example, I buy a game online for a friend and send him the steam key. He then inputs that key into steam and then he owns that game and can download it. @TheEpicMOONHAWK
You need hinges on the shocks. If you look at the shock as if it were a piston (which is exactly what the damper is), you would notice that the shock needs to rotate slightly throughout its travel and thus needs something to allow it to move more freely
Sounds alright if it’s meant to be leaf-sprung. Still a bit more fragile and less effective than 4-link but you make up for it with looks @jamesPLANESii
My habit of not completing challenge entries is getting ridiculous. I'm at literally half of the minimum part count and the paint job looks like it was made by a drunken baboon in a mud pit
What do you use for flight control? (keyboard, mouse, joystick, etc?)
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Because I've made a quasi-stable thrust-vectored aircraft that's capable of Lomcovak maneuvers but you need fine analogue control. Should I tune it for fine control or keyboard?
I'm in. Hopefully a good one will be done by then
@AxHellino Just add 4 more lights or something like that
Yes you can. Just use this cheat sheet for every xml attribute. You can even make the guns look and function like lasers if you want (but they will sound like machine guns though)
@Maximum777 I'm happy to test and tune the full version once you've finished building it. I'm pretty confident my PC can handle anything you throw at it
I'll try a few things with it tomorrow. Looks good!
@Maximum777 OK, so what I'm thinking of doing is this:
Shorten the 4-link setup on this vehicle by 75% and then copy it on to the front as well. Then we can build a body up from there
Oops, just realised the part count is too low. I'm actually surprised I had enough time to make it this far lol @mikoyanster
Well here's my CAS challenge entry. The successor system broke because I uploaded an unlisted version first. I tried and failed to fix it @mikoyanster
I'll try testing to see if upgrading the health of hinges through XML will help significantly
@Maximum777 nice sciencing. I've also found that the suspension breaks extremely easily if it's stretched
that is some brilliant suspension
And with this challenge, I just might come back to simpleplanes for a little while
Weird. Can’t help I’m afraid @Shadowmozez877
gotta love cantilever suspension. I never did make it very well
@Shanethepain1 Wow! This is really good suspension. Only problem is that the cockpit is facing backwards. makes it kinda hard to drive :P
@Shanethepain1 I'll have a closer look soon-ish to give you more specific tips. Just giving you some generic tips so far
Build suspension first, then chassis, then body. If you do it the other way around, your suspension often doesn't work properly. Also make sure all suspension parts are connected to the right pieces. Try some mods like Overload, Fine Tuner and Designer Suite if you can
@Shanethepain1 ahhhh... a very common mistake that most players (even the top ones) make. You need to understand that shocks cant flex side to side like a slinky; they have a shaft forcing them to move up and down only. IRL, solid-axle suspension uses complicated linkages with ball joints and have the shocks also mounted on ball joints. Since there are no ball joints in simpleplanes, we have to make do with a bunch of hinges arranged in the right way. I would suggest copying the suspension from my car you tagged me on previously. Don't copy and paste the entire thing; instead, have a look at it and try to make it yourself. Fiddle with the hinges until it works (it took me months to make 4-link suspension work)
@Shanethepain1 I can give you pointers. Could you mention me on them?
An actual diff and transmission. Wow. I'll just trust that it works because my PC has no hope of running this
@Shippy456 His brother was fine. It's his friend who died. But yes, still very depressing
I'm too busy to build anything new and I don't have anything quite like that but here's some inspiration:
1. totally not what you asked for but pretty fun
2. too big but can be shrunk down a lot
3. easy and unrealistic but high performance
nah there aren't any. No one has ever made one. Discord invite
@Shanethepain1 yes, but simpleplanes hates that. It just explodes basically
Haven’t started yet. Kinda busy. I wouldn’t count on it happening within a week @Shanethepain1
I can create the functional mechanism but I hope you can make it look pretty afterwards cos I don’t do looks very well. The previous time I tried to make it, I tried to replicate the actuator mechanism but it didn’t work. This time I’ll greatly simplify it to get it working
@Shanethepain1 This is more or less the final version of the gnasher
I had a look at that a long time ago but couldn’t get it working at the time. I haven’t opened simpleplanes for a very long time now so I may or may not get around to it. It’s a pretty cool vehicle though! @Shanethepain1
Just on time lol. I’ve already made upgraded versions of everything on this post from 1.6 years ago @Shanethepain1
@GreatHenry sure, whatever
Normally I look at popular planes on this site and think about how incredibly poor the aerodynamic design is (not that it matters in SP so I don’t comment on it) but this thing is actually pretty damn good. The only potential issue I can think of is that pulling up hard at high speed could cut airflow to the engines but that isn’t too bad for a bomber.
I can’t say I’m an expert but I’ve done a lot of reading about it for an RC design. My verdict was that actively controlled split ailerons can be more stabilising for less weight and drag. They have less effect than a fully-moving rudder but the inherent instability of the aircraft aids maneuverability. You’ll also notice that many (if not most) publicised 6th gen concepts use split ailerons and thrust vectoring instead of fins. It’s all a matter of trade offs really @BogdanX
I’m actually not sure why fighter aircraft are still being designed with vertical fins. Since they are all fly-by-wire with no mechanical backup, there’s no safety difference between active and passive stabilisers. I guess it’s a political 'low risk' thing @BogdanX
Actually, they are completely unnecessary thanks to fly-by-wire control. Designs such as the X-36 use split ailerons connected to a gyro-computer to control yaw actively. The B-2 also has split ailerons as well as downwashed wingtips which provide the same effect as a vertical fin. That being said, you’ll need to put hidden ones in everything in this game because there is no fly-by-wire computer with custom PID controls @BogdanX
I shall not allow it as long as there is life in my body and strength in my fingers to type idiotic stuff like this comment
Yep. There’s a reason civilian STOL sport jets don’t exist. It’s possible but requires advanced composite material and fancy, well-designed aerodynamic features @CustomAircraftMods
Do something different and make a low-wing, single-seat, civilian STOL jet aircraft @CustomAircraftMods
Yes
Just need to clarify it a little. Some biplanes have staggered wings similar to a tandem wing design. I guess you mean it needs to have two completely separated main wings plus a stabiliser? @Othawne
Kind of. It’s an E voucher for a specific game. It’s a code that tells steam “I own this game now.” For example, I buy a game online for a friend and send him the steam key. He then inputs that key into steam and then he owns that game and can download it. @TheEpicMOONHAWK
Would you class tandem wings or box wings as biplanes?
But you should probably check the PSU thoroughly
Check for blown light bulbs and books mysteriously lying on the floor next to a high place
Have you tried screaming incoherently?
Most beautiful feet I have ever seen. You must have been trained by a master artist
You need hinges on the shocks. If you look at the shock as if it were a piston (which is exactly what the damper is), you would notice that the shock needs to rotate slightly throughout its travel and thus needs something to allow it to move more freely
Sounds alright if it’s meant to be leaf-sprung. Still a bit more fragile and less effective than 4-link but you make up for it with looks @jamesPLANESii
I need to see if you used real suspension before I upvote. Did you use proper 4-link or the more commonly used lazy-no-link-mechanical-torture style?