That is true. As mentioned though, the North Point would likely die horribly if the action was in good visibility, in open seas, and where the North Point couldn’t simply run away. @BlazeInfinity
@BlazeInfinity It may have radar if that ball ahead of the main rangefinder is a radar unit, but it's likely a basic search-type or fire control radar if that's the case.
@BlazeInfinity
Well that was kind of the point of battlecruisers in the first place. Namely, as cruiser stompers.
The North Point does have radar that would allow it to simply lay smoke or dive into the nearest rain squall or patch of bad weather, flip on the radar aim/wallhacks, and deliver a hail of accurate 8” armor-piercing shells while the battlecruiser sits there wondering where the stream of 8” shells are coming from.
It also has a slight speed advantage, but that would mostly be useful to run away from a very lopsided fight. Which it may not be able to do, especially if it is a screening force as cruisers tend to be.
But if the North Point can’t find a suitable blob of cover or weather to obscure visibility but allow the use of superior radar-directed fire control to deliver the death of a thousand cuts, then the death of the North Point by 16” naval gun is all but assured.
I’m kinda curious as to how well it would fare against my old North Point.
I’d give it to this, since while neither ship has armor that can realistically hope to stop the other’s shells, this has bigger guns.
On second thought the Salem-class missile cruiser conversions would likely blow it out of the water on the basis of a large number of anti-shipping missiles. @Feanor
I like it. Not a personal fan of the BTR series it is derived from, but I can appreciate the design characteristics for what the Soviets wanted it to do.
@EternalDarkness Interestingly enough, the Soviets thought the US Space Shuttle was going to be an orbital space bomber, and not a scientific platform to install modules for some planned upcoming space station or some giant telescope.
Somehow.
You'd think they'd realize the US wasn't planning to turn the space shuttle into an orbital nuclear bomber when they found out that most of the design documents weren't even classified.
It's also why they made Buran, as an interceptor to this bomber. And Buran would be cancelled when they finally realized what the Americans had been saying all along; it wasn't a space bomber lol.
@Dllama4 This was my favorite gun in CS:GO until they nerfed its damage to "basically the FAMAS" to "basically the FAMAS only at muzzle contact range."
@Zoomzoom999 The M5 Victoria was indeed heavily inspired by the M1 Abrams in form and function, such as its heavy composite armor in a blocky form, 120mm L/44 smoothbore, and turbine engine.
@JoshEraDix2345 As far as I've been concerned, he denies that the Serbian government was directly involved, even though the Bosnian group that committed the attacks were backed by a Serbian group that had loose, unofficial links with the Serbian government who provided said weaponry.
Which legally amounts to knowingly aiding and abetting a criminal activity, a crime which is in some jurisdictions just as bad as committing said crime.
Regardless of the culpability of the Serbian government, the Austro-Hungarian Empire was going to invade Serbia anyways after the Archduke was shot, since it turned out that the one guy who didn't want to invade Serbia and was in a position to do anything about it had a bad case of being Archduke Franz Ferdinand. Who was at that point, suffering a severe and irreversible case of being dead.
@engineer40k lol if you wanted a more American DD, here’s a simple way how:
1) Identify areas of the deck which are open.
2) Cram the biggest AA gun you can put there.
Looks reasonably capable too. Four 5" dual-purpose guns to destroy anything that floats or flies, eight torpedo tubes to give cruisers something to think about, and depth charges to give submarines something to think about. Even a few medium-caliber AA guns to dissuade all but the most kamikaze-minded pilots.
A destroyer of this size and firepower would be quite a good design for its time. A bit on the smaller side, but not something to be disregarded, and certainly capable of holding its own.
That is true. As mentioned though, the North Point would likely die horribly if the action was in good visibility, in open seas, and where the North Point couldn’t simply run away. @BlazeInfinity
+1@BlazeInfinity It may have radar if that ball ahead of the main rangefinder is a radar unit, but it's likely a basic search-type or fire control radar if that's the case.
+1@BlazeInfinity
Well that was kind of the point of battlecruisers in the first place. Namely, as cruiser stompers.
The North Point does have radar that would allow it to simply lay smoke or dive into the nearest rain squall or patch of bad weather, flip on the radar aim/wallhacks, and deliver a hail of accurate 8” armor-piercing shells while the battlecruiser sits there wondering where the stream of 8” shells are coming from.
It also has a slight speed advantage, but that would mostly be useful to run away from a very lopsided fight. Which it may not be able to do, especially if it is a screening force as cruisers tend to be.
But if the North Point can’t find a suitable blob of cover or weather to obscure visibility but allow the use of superior radar-directed fire control to deliver the death of a thousand cuts, then the death of the North Point by 16” naval gun is all but assured.
+1I’m kinda curious as to how well it would fare against my old North Point.
I’d give it to this, since while neither ship has armor that can realistically hope to stop the other’s shells, this has bigger guns.
On second thought the Salem-class missile cruiser conversions would likely blow it out of the water on the basis of a large number of anti-shipping missiles. @Feanor
+2@AerialFighterSnakes You'd have to craft that shotgun.
Also you'd need to get the gunpowder for the shotgun, and you get gunpowder from killing creepers.
Sooo... yeah.
+1This gives me flashbacks from back in the day.
I love it.
@Dastin Yes.
@Dastin Vicky Jr.
+1I like it. Not a personal fan of the BTR series it is derived from, but I can appreciate the design characteristics for what the Soviets wanted it to do.
@EternalDarkness Interestingly enough, the Soviets thought the US Space Shuttle was going to be an orbital space bomber, and not a scientific platform to install modules for some planned upcoming space station or some giant telescope.
Somehow.
You'd think they'd realize the US wasn't planning to turn the space shuttle into an orbital nuclear bomber when they found out that most of the design documents weren't even classified.
It's also why they made Buran, as an interceptor to this bomber. And Buran would be cancelled when they finally realized what the Americans had been saying all along; it wasn't a space bomber lol.
@Mmdben Using VTOL + Trim with the weapons turret would inhibit their operation on the move.
It would make a great addition for Marines on board a warship like idk, a supercarrier.
@Dllama4 This was my favorite gun in CS:GO until they nerfed its damage to "basically the FAMAS" to "basically the FAMAS only at muzzle contact range."
@MOPCKOEDNISHE Nice.
@YuukaNeko Ikr.
Next time I’ll make sure the engines are attached to the wheels lol. @EternalDarkness
You're... alive.
Good point. @Mmdben
REALLY. RICK ASTLEY? @Mmdben
I did. @Mmdben
@Mmdben It was that I had to transfer the vehicle from another build, and I didn't realize that doing that DISCONNECTS THE WHEELS.
Thanks. @SnoWFLakE0s
OH CRAP. @Mmdben
+3VTOL moves engines. @Mmdben
What have you done...
@Sqwuilex Sarcasm is quite difficult to express through text.
@Sqwuilex My apologies, but the pedantic statement I made was essentially a joke.
@EternalDarkness Is there such a thing as an IP ban?
@exosuit Yes, but Vicky is the woman you pursue for long-term relationships.
A beautiful empress. A perfect complement to Queen Vicky.
@Mumpsy Thanks!
@SakuraSaku Thanks!
I asked nicely, sir. @PyrusEnderhunter
Thanks! @CrashFighter05
@Dastin Thanks!
@grizzlitn Thanks!
@Zoomzoom999 The M5 Victoria was indeed heavily inspired by the M1 Abrams in form and function, such as its heavy composite armor in a blocky form, 120mm L/44 smoothbore, and turbine engine.
@ErvenDynamics Thanks!
@exosuit Soon.
@Loopy200 The NES Zapper, a light gun accessory for the Nintendo Entertainment System. This thing here.
NES Zapper when?
@JoshEraDix2345 As far as I've been concerned, he denies that the Serbian government was directly involved, even though the Bosnian group that committed the attacks were backed by a Serbian group that had loose, unofficial links with the Serbian government who provided said weaponry.
Which legally amounts to knowingly aiding and abetting a criminal activity, a crime which is in some jurisdictions just as bad as committing said crime.
Regardless of the culpability of the Serbian government, the Austro-Hungarian Empire was going to invade Serbia anyways after the Archduke was shot, since it turned out that the one guy who didn't want to invade Serbia and was in a position to do anything about it had a bad case of being Archduke Franz Ferdinand. Who was at that point, suffering a severe and irreversible case of being dead.
Neat.
Is that my tank cupola?
@engineer40k lol if you wanted a more American DD, here’s a simple way how:
+21) Identify areas of the deck which are open.
2) Cram the biggest AA gun you can put there.
Beautiful early/mid 20th century destroyer.
Looks reasonably capable too. Four 5" dual-purpose guns to destroy anything that floats or flies, eight torpedo tubes to give cruisers something to think about, and depth charges to give submarines something to think about. Even a few medium-caliber AA guns to dissuade all but the most kamikaze-minded pilots.
A destroyer of this size and firepower would be quite a good design for its time. A bit on the smaller side, but not something to be disregarded, and certainly capable of holding its own.
+1@Aeroman77 Thanks!
@JED It's basically an F-35 clone.
Neat. @Spikerya
+1Thanks! @SakuraSaku
Thanks! @Carbonfox1
@ErvenDynamics Of course. It's not a Paternian stealth jet without drop tanks.