@Diloph also, a few more observations regarding this plane. The weight is highly unrealistic : about 17,000kg for a Vautour ans its armament when yours is max. 4,000 ; also the length of a Vautour IIN is about 17,5m when yours is 10m long. It's your choice not to build it 1:1 scale but I think it would have been great to make it life-sized. Other than that, the handling is nice and the performances look normal. (Yeah, I finally tested it)
Toujours absent hein ?
Il faudrait que tu donnes d'autres signes de vie, vu qu'on est co-présidents et que tu est l'instigateur de la CFSP j'ai pas envie de prendre de grosse décision sans ton accord
However, not bad for a first plane. Here's an updoot !
Also, for your WIP builds, upload them as unlisted (select "unlisted" instead of "public" in the game's share menu) and upload them as public only when finished. :)
You could maybe give some precisions about which weapons are displayed here and if you didn't make them, maybe give some credit to the original creator(s) ?
@Diloph nah man the flight performances would be dumb. In fact I began to build one some months ago but I paused it because of my other projects such as missiles and my SMB2 that I'm working on since two years bc I want it to be perfect
I haven't tried it yet but I'm a bit disappointed. I see a lot of mistakes on these screenshots that I don't like, as a lover of the Vautour.
- First, the version here is obviously a IIN, since it's the tandem two-seater. The IIN was an all-weather and night fighter, which was equipped with 4x 30mm DEFA 552, internal rockets and semi-active radar guided missiles. Therefore, it must not be equipped with bombs or rocket pods like here.
- Second, about the shape itself. What are these circles and hollow fuselages above the wings and backbone of the plane ? The wings had wing top partitions to redirect the airflow and not these ugly circular rings. Check the photos in the description. Where do you see such things ?
- Third, why did you make this glass nose cone ? The glass nose cone was mounted only on the Vautour IIB, the bomber version, which didn't have a RIO behind the pilot but a navigator/bombardier in front of the pilot. Also, the IIB could carry bombs and didn't have any guns. Which version did you really choose ? Check the pics again, the IIN didn't have the nose cone.
- Fourth, check the pics in the description one more time. About the livery, why did you paint it like it ? I mean it's your choice but for a replica you should have chosen a French Air Force or IDF/AF livery...
- Fifth, small detail but inevitable one, the IIN had small gun blast deflectors called in french "rascasses", that were placed just in front of the 30mm cannons. Is that what we can see just behind the glass nose on your version ? They're incorrectly made and placed.
- Sixth, about the description. Maybe try to improve it, and check the history of the plane. First, all the roles are mixed, second, the Vautour IIA and IIB were replaced by the A-4, indeed, but only in the IDF/AF. France never had Skyhawks.
I thought a platinum user such as you would make more researches and be more accurate on such a beautiful plane.
If you want me to help you improve it, it'll be a pleasure. I can provide you the armament such as the R.511 missiles if you wanna make a IIN, as well as the guns.
Sorry if you consider this comment mean, but I just wanted to make constructive criticism and not be an asshle.
*EDIT : Also, none of the Vautours had pylons between the engines and the fuselage.
@ploptro7 mdrr je m'en fiche de ça, je vais pas t'obliger à construire, mais par contre t'es très inactif sur Discord... Tu pourrais revenir causer un peu ?
Were you bullied on this site ? If yes, contact a moderator such as @EternalDarkness or @Tully2001. They can help you and stop this. Bullies don't belong to this site and nobody will support them, trust me.
@raceplaneVIBEZ nah man, it's not finished yet since I don't have its precise dimensions to make the body but the concept works, I have a prototype here whose warhead and foldable fins work perfectly.
@WaffleCakes they had us in the title, ngl
+4K
Rn it's 1:32 PM in France
Welcome to SimplePlanes dude
Bonjour, on sait tous que t'es un imposteur. Bogan n'arriverait pas à trouver une copine
+5@theeunknown dude I remember ur previous username better than ur new one...
+1@Diloph also, a few more observations regarding this plane. The weight is highly unrealistic : about 17,000kg for a Vautour ans its armament when yours is max. 4,000 ; also the length of a Vautour IIN is about 17,5m when yours is 10m long. It's your choice not to build it 1:1 scale but I think it would have been great to make it life-sized. Other than that, the handling is nice and the performances look normal. (Yeah, I finally tested it)
@GolemWhoWantsToFly toujours vivant ?
Toujours absent hein ?
Il faudrait que tu donnes d'autres signes de vie, vu qu'on est co-présidents et que tu est l'instigateur de la CFSP j'ai pas envie de prendre de grosse décision sans ton accord
@ploptro7 OK ça me va
@ploptro7 tu prévois de publier ton Mirage quand ? Je peux pas m'occuper correctement de ton missile avant entre 2 et 4 jours
@ploptro7 faut le dire à Bogan !
However, not bad for a first plane. Here's an updoot !
+1Also, for your WIP builds, upload them as unlisted (select "unlisted" instead of "public" in the game's share menu) and upload them as public only when finished. :)
I would also suggest to rework the fuselage shape, push the wings a bit forward, make a nicer border for the cockpit, and make a more "pointy" nose.
+1Good start, but it only had 3 gears : 1 under the nose and two under the fuselage in the wing area. None at the wingtips nor the tail.
If you want, check mine here
+1You could maybe give some precisions about which weapons are displayed here and if you didn't make them, maybe give some credit to the original creator(s) ?
@TheReturningHound fist, remove the "s" from "https" in ur link. Second, it's actually an airscrew that powers the bomb's electric generator.
@silver https://www.simpleplanes.com/a/kLpBX2/Training-Plane-TOURNAMENT
You could participate to @FuriousDream's tournament ?
@Diloph nah man the flight performances would be dumb. In fact I began to build one some months ago but I paused it because of my other projects such as missiles and my SMB2 that I'm working on since two years bc I want it to be perfect
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Do you speak French ?
@Alta2809 yeah I was thinking about it...
+1@NinjaPro tkt Fox et moi on se connaît déjà
C mieux mais ENLÈVE CE FOUTU DRAPEAU BORDEL
@NinjaPro oe mais ça sert à rien vu que l'avion entier est déjà un drapeau Einstein
Accessoirement c'est pas contre toi mais je trouve que tu as massacré la verrière...
@ploptro7 des guardian pour faire des M51 ? C'est quoi cette histoire ?
À quoi ça sert le petit drapeau sur le dos ?!?
T'aurais dû me demander pour l'armement...
J'ai des missiles, des canons et bien plus en réserve
VODKA
and Kompot
@ploptro7 ici
@BLOODIUS nope, neither France or Israel are communist countries lmao
I haven't tried it yet but I'm a bit disappointed. I see a lot of mistakes on these screenshots that I don't like, as a lover of the Vautour.
- First, the version here is obviously a IIN, since it's the tandem two-seater. The IIN was an all-weather and night fighter, which was equipped with 4x 30mm DEFA 552, internal rockets and semi-active radar guided missiles. Therefore, it must not be equipped with bombs or rocket pods like here.
- Second, about the shape itself. What are these circles and hollow fuselages above the wings and backbone of the plane ? The wings had wing top partitions to redirect the airflow and not these ugly circular rings. Check the photos in the description. Where do you see such things ?
- Third, why did you make this glass nose cone ? The glass nose cone was mounted only on the Vautour IIB, the bomber version, which didn't have a RIO behind the pilot but a navigator/bombardier in front of the pilot. Also, the IIB could carry bombs and didn't have any guns. Which version did you really choose ? Check the pics again, the IIN didn't have the nose cone.
- Fourth, check the pics in the description one more time. About the livery, why did you paint it like it ? I mean it's your choice but for a replica you should have chosen a French Air Force or IDF/AF livery...
- Fifth, small detail but inevitable one, the IIN had small gun blast deflectors called in french "rascasses", that were placed just in front of the 30mm cannons. Is that what we can see just behind the glass nose on your version ? They're incorrectly made and placed.
- Sixth, about the description. Maybe try to improve it, and check the history of the plane. First, all the roles are mixed, second, the Vautour IIA and IIB were replaced by the A-4, indeed, but only in the IDF/AF. France never had Skyhawks.
I thought a platinum user such as you would make more researches and be more accurate on such a beautiful plane.
If you want me to help you improve it, it'll be a pleasure. I can provide you the armament such as the R.511 missiles if you wanna make a IIN, as well as the guns.
Sorry if you consider this comment mean, but I just wanted to make constructive criticism and not be an asshle.
+2*EDIT : Also, none of the Vautours had pylons between the engines and the fuselage.
@Alta2809 lmao it wasn't used in Korea nor Vietnam
@FOXLOVER tiens un tuto
@ploptro7 mdrr je m'en fiche de ça, je vais pas t'obliger à construire, mais par contre t'es très inactif sur Discord... Tu pourrais revenir causer un peu ?
@FOXLOVER au fait je sais pas si je peux t'apprendre dans le sens où je suis pas un bon prof, par contre je peux t'indiquer des tutos.
@FOXLOVER non, c'est un missile stocké aux Ailes Anciennes de Toulouse. Mais j'avoue que j'aimerais bien l'avoir chez moi...
@FOXLOVER eh merci 👍👍👍
*the most beautiful
C'est vraiment dommage le coup des 4 hélices...
Par contre d'où tu post à 1h du mat' ?!?
Nice
Were you bullied on this site ? If yes, contact a moderator such as @EternalDarkness or @Tully2001. They can help you and stop this. Bullies don't belong to this site and nobody will support them, trust me.
+3@Strucker let's test it...
@ploptro7 mec t'es encore vivant ?
Life of Boris intensifies
+6@FOXLOVER tu confonds pas avec le Pou du Ciel de Henry Mignet ?
@raceplaneVIBEZ nah man, it's not finished yet since I don't have its precise dimensions to make the body but the concept works, I have a prototype here whose warhead and foldable fins work perfectly.
@VChart yeah, exactly. I think the AI could use this kind of missile guidance to control a gun or a cannon.