@Cabbage17 so my limitations, I meant flap speeds, Mach limits, and altitude limits, but not this kind of limitation bruh
Just saying, SP structures are a lot more robust than irl :/
@Jorgebr bruh so if you make a plane that looks really good and doesn't fly it still gets full credit??? :/
No points for realistic performance of flying characteristics whatsoever.
@MobileMobileTheFriendly i guess you can have the big engines just for show, and then have xml scaled engines pointed down hidden inside? I'll try to get that to work and I'll get back to you.
@SavageMan ok lol
I understand that CE airlines have the lie-flat first class seats in the screenshots, but AA just has more legroom, a wider armrest, and a wider seat when compared to economy. The armrest in economy is also unrealistic as the armrests are only connected to the seatbacks and have a cantilever structure (they are only connected in the back and kinda float above the rest of the seat lol), with an exception to bulkhead seats.
@KnightOfRen @AsteroidAsteroidTheBook @KangaKangaTheRoo As I come to think of it, we are all silver and above. Why would we be internet predators if we show our at least half-decent knowledge and passion for aviation and we spend hundreds if not thousands of hours mastering the game and contributing to the community? Parents don't really understand the concept of a gaming community.
No yaw, too nose heavy, overkill acceleration, and flaps do nothing
Innovation - 20/30
So, a cool cap sun shade, but its structural integrity at high speed is another question. Also, the way you use the reverse thrust engine in decoration is interesting.
Design - 10/25
The fuselage is too boxy, the lights are incorrect, no custom wing, and the reverse thrust exhaust does not come out the inlet.
@ParziParziTheVal They do. Most twins do because if they spin in opposite directions, they will have to make what is essentially two different engines, since they'd have to be mirrored. Check out this video of an engine start, and skip to 0:25 and 1:10 to see which way the props on this Dash 8 spin.
The only exception I know of is the Airbus A400M. It is an advanced military quad turboprop cargo plane that have the engines on each engine spin toward each other. This is done so that the plane feels more like Airbus's jetliners and to increase the plane's reliability.
@KnightOfRen OMG I didn't know your quality was not great until very recently...
This gives me more hope lol. I finally realize that even gold and plats make bad stuff sometimes (This is not an insult directed toward you, it is a general observation)
Good job with your recent quality improvement! Why should this silver noob say this?
@Cabbage17 I hadn't tried the plane out yet (I'm writing this during recess between these torturous online classes XD), but it is realistic if the yaw is only there when engine thrust is applied. If the drag just happens to be higher on the left, then it's an unrealistic annoyance. You can probably simulate this if you put a hidden engine on the right side of the plane.
Also, FYI real GA planes correct for the torque by installing a fixed trim tab that automatically yaws to the right and installing the engine props off center and tilted sideways to the left. This corrects for the amount of torque with cruise speed and power, so you actually have to rudder yaw left at lower angles of attack and thrust setting. The opposite is also true, especially during taxi and takeoff roll (while taxiing, although the thrust setting is low, the rudder has almost no authority and thus is unable to correct). This is a simplified version of what I know as a student GA pilot, and I suggest you pin this lol NOTE: as far as I know, even lighter twins have the same effect, unless the props spin in opposite directions, in which case the two props counters the p-factor torque of the other engine. Correct me if I'm wrong.
It is forbidden to use it for secondary creation without permission
The rules says:
It is okay to download someone else's airplane, make some tweaks, and re-upload a new variation.
In fact, the original designer may even receive bonus points.
However, if your variation does not offer any improvements over the existing airplane, then it may be removed.
If you are circumventing the predecessor/successor system, then you will be banned. Never upload a successor as an original design; give credit to the designer of its predecessor.
@Cabbage17 ur welcome. But the whole reason for the upvote is for me to thank you, not vice versa. Also pls son’s tag me just for the upvote. It clogs your comments, and you can get banned under the new mass tagging rules lol
@SupremeDorian Hi. Lol. I can't believe I can spotlight a moderator lol.
Now go and enjoy your spotlight and hopefully I wouldn't be able to spotlight you in a few days!
@NojusGindrenas @Cabbage17 @SmallyRocket
+1@Cabbage17 also tell me how to put black text
+1@Cabbage17 so my limitations, I meant flap speeds, Mach limits, and altitude limits, but not this kind of limitation bruh
+1Just saying, SP structures are a lot more robust than irl :/
@Jorgebr bruh so if you make a plane that looks really good and doesn't fly it still gets full credit??? :/
+1No points for realistic performance of flying characteristics whatsoever.
@Cabbage17 that’s fine.
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+1@Cabbage17 where’s your list now?
+1@Cabbage17 try to make it land on the dirt road behind the hangars at Yeager (the one that leads to the bridge)
+1@Cabbage17 lol
+1@Cabbage17 although most bush planes are single engine, I’ll take AMEL (airplane, multi-engine, land) too.
+1@Cabbage17 we just need props (any quantity), STOL, and hard landings, as well as capability for any field condition and rugged terrain.
+1@Cabbage17 @SmallyRocket sure, why not?
+1@NojusGindrenas people already hate this challenge.
+1@SmSmThe10684 check my bio
+1@Inuyasha8215 thank you lol
+1@Cabbage17 nooooo
+1@Cabbage17 I just realized I only need 12 more upvotes to get to gold XD
+1@Cabbage17 lol
+1@Cabbage17 can you make me a review of my updated RJ230?
+1@MobileMobileTheFriendly i guess you can have the big engines just for show, and then have xml scaled engines pointed down hidden inside? I'll try to get that to work and I'll get back to you.
+1@WiiMini i did
+1@AirbusFanA380
go to the forums
+1@MobileMobileTheFriendly so it really just takes you 4 days for all these planes?
+1@SavageMan ok lol
+1I understand that CE airlines have the lie-flat first class seats in the screenshots, but AA just has more legroom, a wider armrest, and a wider seat when compared to economy. The armrest in economy is also unrealistic as the armrests are only connected to the seatbacks and have a cantilever structure (they are only connected in the back and kinda float above the rest of the seat lol), with an exception to bulkhead seats.
@RuvienRuvienTheCitizen uhhhh I made rank brackets already...
+1@ChrisETH discord
+1He is a mod on SPBC, which you can find in @dllama4 ‘s bio (I tagged so there is a link lol)
@KangaKangaTheRoo so I previously required funky trees, but FYI I pulled that rule
+1@KangaKangaTheRoo sorry. I pinned the comments.
+1@KangaKangaTheRoo lol
+1@KnightOfRen @AsteroidAsteroidTheBook @KangaKangaTheRoo As I come to think of it, we are all silver and above. Why would we be internet predators if we show our at least half-decent knowledge and passion for aviation and we spend hundreds if not thousands of hours mastering the game and contributing to the community? Parents don't really understand the concept of a gaming community.
+1@WernsterProductions Ok, But I Still Find Your Typing Rather Interesting.
+1Lol
@XAircraftManufacturer ok lol
+1@SavageMan cool!
+1@Cabbage17 I am @FeiWu lol
+1@suubk27 @WernsterProductions
+1@airlinerbuilder
GRADING TIME
Performance -
30/40Innovation -
20/30Design -
10/25Livery -
3/5Description -
10/20Total -
73/120Well done!
+1@DPSAircraft ok lol
+1also I got myself to 4k already XD
@SemedianIndustries @PointlessWhyshouldi @BagelPlane @WolfSpark @SouthEngine thank you for your spotlights!
+1@WernsterProductions time for your evaluation.
Performance -
25/40No yaw, too nose heavy, overkill acceleration, and flaps do nothing
Innovation -
20/30So, a cool cap sun shade, but its structural integrity at high speed is another question. Also, the way you use the reverse thrust engine in decoration is interesting.
Design -
10/25The fuselage is too boxy, the lights are incorrect, no custom wing, and the reverse thrust exhaust does not come out the inlet.
Livery -
5/5Nice work!
Description -
19/20Total -
79/120Well done!
+1@ParziParziTheVal They do. Most twins do because if they spin in opposite directions, they will have to make what is essentially two different engines, since they'd have to be mirrored. Check out this video of an engine start, and skip to 0:25 and 1:10 to see which way the props on this Dash 8 spin.
+1The only exception I know of is the Airbus A400M. It is an advanced military quad turboprop cargo plane that have the engines on each engine spin toward each other. This is done so that the plane feels more like Airbus's jetliners and to increase the plane's reliability.
@KnightOfRen OMG I didn't know your quality was not great until very recently...
This gives me more hope lol. I finally realize that even gold and plats make bad stuff sometimes (This is not an insult directed toward you, it is a general observation)
+1Good job with your recent quality improvement!
Why should this silver noob say this?
@Cabbage17 Also, I think you're the best comedian on SP
+1@Cabbage17 I hadn't tried the plane out yet (I'm writing this during recess between these torturous online classes XD), but it is realistic if the yaw is only there when engine thrust is applied. If the drag just happens to be higher on the left, then it's an unrealistic annoyance. You can probably simulate this if you put a hidden engine on the right side of the plane.
Also, FYI real GA planes correct for the torque by installing a fixed trim tab that automatically yaws to the right and installing the engine props off center and tilted sideways to the left. This corrects for the amount of torque with cruise speed and power, so you actually have to rudder yaw left at lower angles of attack and thrust setting. The opposite is also true, especially during taxi and takeoff roll (while taxiing, although the thrust setting is low, the rudder has almost no authority and thus is unable to correct). This is a simplified version of what I know as a student GA pilot, and I suggest you pin this lol
+1NOTE: as far as I know, even lighter twins have the same effect, unless the props spin in opposite directions, in which case the two props counters the p-factor torque of the other engine. Correct me if I'm wrong.
@Cabbage17 how do you simulate p-factor? Or is this a coincidence lol
+1The rules says:
@Xml_
No u
+1@Cabbage17 ur welcome. But the whole reason for the upvote is for me to thank you, not vice versa. Also pls son’s tag me just for the upvote. It clogs your comments, and you can get banned under the new mass tagging rules lol
+1@Suubk27 Thank you for the upvote and spotlight!
+1@EternalDarkness @spefyjerbf thank you for the clarification.
+1@SupremeDorian Hi. Lol. I can't believe I can spotlight a moderator lol.
+1Now go and enjoy your spotlight and hopefully I wouldn't be able to spotlight you in a few days!
@airlinerbuilder Nice plane for my standards, but we have those platinums here lol
+1