@Greggory005 Also, a new revision to that picture Apparently for some reason I downloaded a resized image. Now fixed.
Also, the point is that I need someone to set up a basis for me to improve upon. The overall lines are great, the coloring is good, and it's through those that I even know which parts/areas required correction in the first place! So basically I might be able to fix someone else's drawing but I cannot set up a basis on my own - my hand-eye coordination is borderline nonexistent and so is my eye sight, so the only thing I can do is to try out random lines and see which one sticks!
@Greggory005 my pfp is traced gosh dang it ,this is not
Well that explains the problems about her left eye... imma slap your interpretation instead
"Slap", as in...
but its traced
So who is this lass traced from? I can see what seems to be pencil lines underneath.
And also, her left eye looks rather ...off. When you close an eye the corresponding eyebrow is supposed to move downward, and there really shouldn't be a double eyelid on the closed eye - and even then, that line shouldn't be that high - hell, for the first second I thought she had three eyes or so!
Well, anyways, this is my interpretation on what's supposed to be done, but I can't really tell if I only made it worse...
P.S. Try to make sure there aren't any extraneous lines/paint/strokes/whatever on the picture in your next drawing. There's an airbrush dot right above her right brow and there' an extraneous line extending from her bangs down to beneath her left eye in your picture.
@Revan13152 The reason why I asked? The last thing I need when discussing about someone's build is to have someone telling me that I used the wrong pronoun. And also, I now view you as a friend, so I now need to know if it's appropriate to call you things along the lines of "bro" and "my lad"! Yeah, guess it's just me being autistic enough to actually care about such things...
@Revan13152 Read my bio, we aspies aren't normally that good at art anyways, and it took me like what, five tries to get their aesthetics right. For each one of them. Just because we aspeis suck at arts doesn't mean we can't even get a basic idea down in orthographic.
@Revan13152 I mean, the point is to first get a clear picture on what you want to build: is it a fighter, a bomber, a transport, or something else? Then with that in mind, we can sketch down some basic shapes on what the plane will look like, including the aesthetics/artstyle, the wing configuration, the fuselage configuration, engine types, etc. Then we build. And try our best (with the help of XML, of course) to recreate what we wanted to make.
A few examples of my sketch: Starfire "Nightprowler" attack bomber, something I've been working on as of now. Roderick Airworks "Nimbus" high-speed bomber and Nelan Drive Yards "War Drake" Aerospace fighter, two projects I'll start working on after I finish my current project.
Revan, waterproof is first, a setting found only on missiles, and its job is to keep missiles functioning after it has touched water. I'm pretty sure they don't help with missiles and bombs disappearing after reaching a certain depth by any means.
@Revan13152 Well, it's not as if I myself am that careful myself... Like, for multiple posts, I only realized I made a typo half a week after I posted it...
Why would airships replace subs? I mean, they are still the most stealthy platform bar none and IIRC they'd still be better at commerce interdiction and nuclear deterrence...
@Greggory005 Spef most likely doesn't. His lores are less about actual plot and is more about what he have XML-ed to make that thing. @Treadmill103 on the other hand have written short stories about his own dieselpunk AU.
@Greggory005 Sorry for messing up your name🙇...
The internal workings of my brain seems to have a troubling resemblance to a paper shredder when it comes to names and faces... or just people in general...
Also, no, Spef and I are not talking you dying from a nuke - we know you can prolly walk that off. We're joking about his experience w/ Taylor's solution, which is commonly used to calculate the effect of nuclear bombs. So the joke is basically that whether he had been working on nukes and whether he might die from his own home-made nukes or not.
@spefyjerbf Your... experience? With the Taylor solution? We're still talking about SP... right? Just give me a shout when you're nowhere near the polar regions yet the sun's already up at midnight...
Jokes aside, it's just that my ballparking about the in-game damage of a cruise missile compared to a 500lb bomb, and IIRC according to that function twice the explosives (and probably twice the energy released) would result in a blast wave with the radius of 2^(1/5) times of the original, and 1.8 is around 2^(1/5) times of 1.6, so I just decided to go full "**** this, I'll just use this equation here", so I have literally zero idea if that's how it works or not, it's just a random guesstimation based on a random guesstimation...
@Griffon1Crosswind Yeah, like who in the world still uses semi-active radar homing missiles after we got active radar homing ones? The problem is, only a Sidewinder visually resembles that abomination of a Guardian...
@rexzion Well, that Greg Kurozaki guy came from a world where the air is saturated w/ uranium after a nuclear holocaust so perhaps his ideas on bombs are a bit... skewed. Glorious Atom, Praise On To Thee! P.S. Yes, that's a Fallout reference, and I probably should stop speaking in references.
@Greggory005 The point is that you said a 750lb bomb can't even be called a proper bomb for it's too small... when 500lb bombs are still the mainstay.
Also, please make sure they aren't still in your hands when they go off.
@Greggory005 A 750lb bomb shown in that picture is merely a firecracker to ya? I know that the Zakaer group have already nuked Earth in your setting, but IIRC unrestricted nuclear warfare is still bad, right?
@rexzion Well there isn't one in either families so you can't use vanilla weapons to make them without adding another detacher into the mix and thus screwing over your ability to use ejector racks... Anyways, thanks for the upvote!
@Greggory005 Right, one thing: ever heard of the Vol Noor? For some reason I'm unconsciously making the starfighter more and more similar to its design with every revision...
@Greggory005 You should know that I wanted to build pseudo-saucers (aka saucers w/ fins and cockpits and guns and whatnot) since like seven years ago. Glad to see another guy sharing the same fetish. P.S. Did I just call my fondness for such designs a fetish? P.P.S. Yes I did.
@Greggory005 "Now"?! The implications are rather... troublesome...
Anyways, for reasons beyond me, I'm a bit too enthusiastic on tutoring others on whatever I happen to know about...
@Greggory005 You know, it's a bit lonely up there, three thousand miles above the ground... Seriously, you're like the third guy on this entire site who's interested in building fully space-capable planes, so of course I'm a bit excited to talk about what to build!
@Greggory005 On a technicality, right in the middle of where the "bullets" strike. That's why on my drive units i have them arranged in groups of four, so that the center of the drive mount is also the COT of the thruster.
@Greggory005 Not really, the impactForce and roundsPerSecond is what determines the thrust of the engine, and a higher muzzleVelocity only made the engine more stable, so there's literally nothing to do w/ the gyros. Hell, Spef had three flyers w/ this drive before we even had gyros in the first place!
@Greggory005 Also, a new revision to that picture Apparently for some reason I downloaded a resized image. Now fixed.
Also, the point is that I need someone to set up a basis for me to improve upon. The overall lines are great, the coloring is good, and it's through those that I even know which parts/areas required correction in the first place! So basically I might be able to fix someone else's drawing but I cannot set up a basis on my own - my hand-eye coordination is borderline nonexistent and so is my eye sight, so the only thing I can do is to try out random lines and see which one sticks!
@Greggory005
my pfp is traced gosh dang it ,this is notWell that explains the problems about her left eye...
imma slap your interpretation instead"Slap", as in...
but its tracedSo who is this lass traced from? I can see what seems to be pencil lines underneath.
And also, her left eye looks rather ...off. When you close an eye the corresponding eyebrow is supposed to move downward, and there really shouldn't be a double eyelid on the closed eye - and even then, that line shouldn't be that high - hell, for the first second I thought she had three eyes or so!
Well, anyways, this is my interpretation on what's supposed to be done, but I can't really tell if I only made it worse...
P.S. Try to make sure there aren't any extraneous lines/paint/strokes/whatever on the picture in your next drawing. There's an airbrush dot right above her right brow and there' an extraneous line extending from her bangs down to beneath her left eye in your picture.
@Greggory005 Seems to be some sort of "access denied".
@Greggory005 Sadly, no.
Just realized: you can probably make an axis-captured B-17 and actually have the bomber formation call out "yo that bomber two o' clock sus!"
+4@Revan13152 There are three more of us aspies that I know of: MintLynx from Texas, Avro683Lancaster from Australia, and FeatherWing from the UK.
+1@Revan13152 The reason why I asked? The last thing I need when discussing about someone's build is to have someone telling me that I used the wrong pronoun. And also, I now view you as a friend, so I now need to know if it's appropriate to call you things along the lines of "bro" and "my lad"! Yeah, guess it's just me being autistic enough to actually care about such things...
+1@Revan13152 Read my bio, we aspies aren't normally that good at art anyways, and it took me like what, five tries to get their aesthetics right. For each one of them. Just because we aspeis suck at arts doesn't mean we can't even get a basic idea down in orthographic.
+1@Revan13152 I mean, the point is to first get a clear picture on what you want to build: is it a fighter, a bomber, a transport, or something else? Then with that in mind, we can sketch down some basic shapes on what the plane will look like, including the aesthetics/artstyle, the wing configuration, the fuselage configuration, engine types, etc. Then we build. And try our best (with the help of XML, of course) to recreate what we wanted to make.
+1A few examples of my sketch:
Starfire "Nightprowler" attack bomber, something I've been working on as of now.
Roderick Airworks "Nimbus" high-speed bomber and Nelan Drive Yards "War Drake" Aerospace fighter, two projects I'll start working on after I finish my current project.
@Revan13152 Also, what's your preferred pronoun?
+1Revan,
+1waterproofis first, a setting found only on missiles, and its job is to keep missiles functioning after it has touched water. I'm pretty sure they don't help with missiles and bombs disappearing after reaching a certain depth by any means.Below 15,000 meters / 45,000 feet? Seriously, it depends on what you're trying to build.
+1@Revan13152 Well, it's not as if I myself am that careful myself... Like, for multiple posts, I only realized I made a typo half a week after I posted it...
+1The old and trusty flare gun, for some reason it can only damage ships and can't even damage USS Beast while we're at it...
+1MOAR DAKKA! NEVAR 'NUFF DAKKA!! WAAAAAGGGHHH!!!
Well, other than the fact that bombs automatically disappear under water, not too much of an issue...
+1Ok, perhpas, just perhaps, you should put something like "activate 1 to fire the cluster" somewhere in the description...
+1@Sadboye12 I'm pretty sure you haven't missed any forum posts either...
+1Although I myself hate any weapon that's not "plug n' play" with a passion, the weapon is still pretty nice.
+1@Sadboye12 No, it's because I don't upload that many things...
+1@Sadboye12 No, I man IIRC you haven't missed out on anything as of yet...
+1@Sadboye12 ...Again? Thanks anyways
+1Who the hell's Ryouko?
Am I the only one who thinks the bottom one is better?
Wait wait wait wait where the -bleep- are the horizontal stabilizers?
+1@GCPrototypes Well, of course, if merchant ships are now mostly airborne, submarines will most likely fall out of military use...
Why would airships replace subs? I mean, they are still the most stealthy platform bar none and IIRC they'd still be better at commerce interdiction and nuclear deterrence...
@Greggory005 Spef most likely doesn't. His lores are less about actual plot and is more about what he have XML-ed to make that thing. @Treadmill103 on the other hand have written short stories about his own dieselpunk AU.
@Greggory005 Sorry for messing up your name🙇...
The internal workings of my brain seems to have a troubling resemblance to a paper shredder when it comes to names and faces... or just people in general...
Also, no, Spef and I are not talking you dying from a nuke - we know you can prolly walk that off. We're joking about his experience w/ Taylor's solution, which is commonly used to calculate the effect of nuclear bombs. So the joke is basically that whether he had been working on nukes and whether he might die from his own home-made nukes or not.
@spefyjerbf Well it feels more reassuring knowing that my friend won't die to a great ball of nuclear fire anytime soon :3
+2@spefyjerbf Your... experience? With the Taylor solution? We're still talking about SP... right? Just give me a shout when you're nowhere near the polar regions yet the sun's already up at midnight...
+1Jokes aside, it's just that my ballparking about the in-game damage of a cruise missile compared to a 500lb bomb, and IIRC according to that function twice the explosives (and probably twice the energy released) would result in a blast wave with the radius of 2^(1/5) times of the original, and 1.8 is around 2^(1/5) times of 1.6, so I just decided to go full "**** this, I'll just use this equation here", so I have literally zero idea if that's how it works or not, it's just a random guesstimation based on a random guesstimation...
@Griffon1Crosswind Yeah, like who in the world still uses semi-active radar homing missiles after we got active radar homing ones? The problem is, only a Sidewinder visually resembles that abomination of a Guardian...
+1@Sovetzkyrossiya IIRC there isn't a FAB-1000, at least not one that resembles the Boom25...
@rexzion So basically Greg Kurozaki is another alias of that Greggory005 guy.
@rexzion This.
@rexzion Well, that Greg Kurozaki guy came from a world where the air is saturated w/ uranium after a nuclear holocaust so perhaps his ideas on bombs are a bit... skewed.
Glorious Atom, Praise On To Thee!
P.S. Yes, that's a Fallout reference, and I probably should stop speaking in references.
@Greggory005 Ouch. How many fingers do you still have? Five as in "two on one hand, three on the other"?
Yes, that's a StarCraft reference
@Greggory005 The point is that you said a 750lb bomb can't even be called a proper bomb for it's too small... when 500lb bombs are still the mainstay.
Also, please make sure they aren't still in your hands when they go off.
@Greggory005 A 750lb bomb shown in that picture is merely a firecracker to ya? I know that the Zakaer group have already nuked Earth in your setting, but IIRC unrestricted nuclear warfare is still bad, right?
@rexzion Well there isn't one in either families so you can't use vanilla weapons to make them without adding another detacher into the mix and thus screwing over your ability to use ejector racks... Anyways, thanks for the upvote!
+1@Greggory005 Right, one thing: ever heard of the Vol Noor? For some reason I'm unconsciously making the starfighter more and more similar to its design with every revision...
@Greggory005 You should know that I wanted to build pseudo-saucers (aka saucers w/ fins and cockpits and guns and whatnot) since like seven years ago. Glad to see another guy sharing the same fetish.
P.S. Did I just call my fondness for such designs a fetish?
P.P.S. Yes I did.
@Greggory005 "Now"?! The implications are rather... troublesome...
Anyways, for reasons beyond me, I'm a bit too enthusiastic on tutoring others on whatever I happen to know about...
@Greggory005 Sorry to be a grammar freak, but IIRC it's "you're" not "your"...
@Greggory005 Np bro!
@Greggory005 You know, it's a bit lonely up there, three thousand miles above the ground... Seriously, you're like the third guy on this entire site who's interested in building fully space-capable planes, so of course I'm a bit excited to talk about what to build!
@Greggory005 Yeah, gyros can be good especially when you actuality go to space...
@Greggory005 On a technicality, right in the middle of where the "bullets" strike. That's why on my drive units i have them arranged in groups of four, so that the center of the drive mount is also the COT of the thruster.
@Greggory005 Not really, the
impactForceandroundsPerSecondis what determines the thrust of the engine, and a highermuzzleVelocityonly made the engine more stable, so there's literally nothing to do w/ the gyros. Hell, Spef had three flyers w/ this drive before we even had gyros in the first place!