@jamesPLANESii as already stated, it'll either be using alts, if mods say that's okay, or the friends I have who can help. So 100 really becomes 25 across 4 people
As for the bit about setting the bar... Well, this is an ambitious challenge, so for questions like that, I made this post so we can atleast get some discussion started. Maybe you can help with some ideas? My thoughts on that was too keep seperate thresholds for different skill levels and let each entry still get a decent 10-20 upvotes from me alone.
This game is about to start feeling more like a fine wine that has a lot of the things we've been wanting for years over an already almost perfect game...
I am thoroughly impressed, but request the jundroo team to please not rush and take your time with it. Thank you for listening, devs!
@AndrewGarrison you know, Funnily enough, those updates in the policy make the "game" a legit and viable option to actually start learning some basic 3D modelling before moving on to a CAD and/or blender.
I really do wonder if Simpleplanes can be genuinely developed intl an education software that universities can actually integrate into the syllabus. Might be something the dev team could and should consider, I personally would love to teach children the basics of aerodynamics with Simpleplanes being a part of the actual syllabus instead of some game on the side with vague connection to the subject of Aero...
Auto trim and Holding angle of attack are two very different functions.
As for PID... Well, unless you have an engineering degree, that's going to be pretty difficult. PID are known to be finnicky to those who can't be bothered to open a desmos graph and plot in the maths. Even then PID's in simple planes are sensitive to the thousandth decimal.
What you want for "Auto trim" is to reduce the PitchRate so that the Pitch Angle doesn't change. Trying something like PitchRate>0.1? PitchRate/25 : (PitchRate(smaller than)-0.1? PitchRate/25 : 0) may work... But I just got that from the top of my head and testing will be needed.
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@SupremeDorian I did though? And I'm not going to be using alts either way. I've gathered 5 volunteers to help, and even if they don't help, I'm ready to do it alone, all by myself, one account. Besides, @Skyjaythefirst has fully confirmed he's definitely in on this.
Also, to support the claim of asking mods before uploading the challenge, check here I tagged Crazyplaness once. And after that, tagging any mod became redundant since volunteers came out and said they'd help instead.
@MosquitowithaMachineGun I go with canvas, but I suggest GIMP or something else. I just learnt some exploits on canvas which is why I was able to make that thumbnailwith the plae in front of the text
@Graingy if I really have to explain it, then some of your works show more style and nuance than others, this is a great example. The fact that you have a rather difficult task at hand and the first thing you decided to do is make something akin to a delta wing supersonic is something I don't think a lot of people would choose to do.
I for one, would likely do a long range attack fighter.
Adding to that, you also give off a bit of vibe of being fun, this too, is fun. Therefore, it's very something you'd make.. maybe 1 or, 2 other people would too as well.
Thank you to everyone who's been with me on this journey. I'll be taking a break for a good while once I'm fully done with the after post stuff of the Quechal ghost
The more I explore the Sight the more I realise that so many of these planes are missed oppurtunities for the novaran fighter challenge xD
This is amazing!
This doesn't have to be your last post. There's a good chance it will go well. Keep hope for that chance... It'll prime your body for what is going to come.
Best wishes to you and your family, and I request everyone to have a moment of prayer in their hearts.
@Solent19 I pride myself on making smooth, near timeless looking designs. @ThomasRoderick (someone I very often ask for opinions) would agree too. He knows how much I like to overdo the beauty over functionality 💀
It has been getting better with the newer stuff I make though, the form follows function ideaology.
Simply put, try making each of your fuselage pieces purposeful to a sort of... "Flow". One piece transitions to another.
THAT SAID
-It doesn't actually fly properly without the weapons due to badly balanced CG to the point where it can't even take off
-People download it WITHOUT The weapons attached, which alone is not really a good thing, but okay, you wanted to show the weapons in a cool way, let people choose and all, but it not being able to fly without them is a problem.
-For what it is, that cockpit doesn't even have a screen.
Don't let that discourage you because those are just criticisms. There's things to like here like
-Good design. Everything flows and the wings are big enough to accommodate more weight which will help with CG.
-The concept in general of letting people choose weapon loadouts is interesting, but it needs to be better executed.
Read the entire thing and I am left rather... I won't say confused, but disoriented. There's huge potential here. The concept of switching to the ethereal being state or whatever that is meant to be can be used immensely well if executed well
Here though... it's uh... it's just daunting. I can't tell what is happening and the main character literally seems to not give a shit. That said, the descriptions that you wrote are great. It paints a vivid picture... and there is, having read the entire thing, a possibly good plot at play here. But it does need a heck of a lot of work to reach that potential it set. Let me know if you want me to try writing it in my way and attempt to fix the issues I pointed out
To elaborate on the clarity thing, early on, I can't tell what the stakes are at hand. I can't tell what is going on until much later when the action has long since started. It's only when our main character is beelining towards the broken tubes that I realized that the guys need to fix it quick or the ship can't fire back.
@ZerkkOtakuGuy what the hell... its my birthday too.
Lets go dude.
Added bonus, I abso-fricking-lutely love Bocchi. That one scene with here improvised solo, holy crap!
@windshifter1 no. It doesn't disqualify you. I don't have to worry about self promotion since that's by default now allowed. If you use an alt, I'll hold you accountable for breaking Rule 8 which prohibits any type of cheating and disqualify on that basis.
I'll start a discord server by tomorrow for the people who have volunteered to upvote. Over Time, after that, I may be able to increase the upvote prize, but I'll have to discuss that with you all.
@SupremeDorian I'll prerequisite with this --- I'll never myself abuse the system.
Now, that said, the irony of that whole ordeal is that the rules for the site don't state that you are not allowed to use alts to help other players. It has a clear rule stating against Upvoting yourself but nothing for Upvoting someone else. So even if I went through with that plan, I'd have all the reasons to defend myself this time around.
But massive respect to you for confirming that we'll in advance. I appreciate that. Helps with the clarity... I'll just really REALLY have to setup that discord and get whoever those 5 are (I don't remember everyone's names) and just start the discussion of how we go about this and if everyone will have the time.
@11qazxc actually, frick the adding text, I'll do that, but I'll also work on revamping all those images AND keeping the size low. These current images really need a revamp. I mean, they look okay, but don't match with the theme and need a rework. I'll probably keep all the rules and words the exact same- add one or two clarifications, more imagery about what kind of jet we looking for, such and such. All details that won't affect what players have already started working on. Also, let me know if you want to join a discord server specifically for this challenge
Aw man, I just got simpleplanes a few months ago... I dont want to have to buy it all over again :(
+8Wait, FIRST PLACE!?
+5@jamesPLANESii as already stated, it'll either be using alts, if mods say that's okay, or the friends I have who can help. So 100 really becomes 25 across 4 people
As for the bit about setting the bar... Well, this is an ambitious challenge, so for questions like that, I made this post so we can atleast get some discussion started. Maybe you can help with some ideas? My thoughts on that was too keep seperate thresholds for different skill levels and let each entry still get a decent 10-20 upvotes from me alone.
+4possibly the next big thing after overload?
+4This game is about to start feeling more like a fine wine that has a lot of the things we've been wanting for years over an already almost perfect game...
I am thoroughly impressed, but request the jundroo team to please not rush and take your time with it. Thank you for listening, devs!
+3@AndrewGarrison you know, Funnily enough, those updates in the policy make the "game" a legit and viable option to actually start learning some basic 3D modelling before moving on to a CAD and/or blender.
I really do wonder if Simpleplanes can be genuinely developed intl an education software that universities can actually integrate into the syllabus. Might be something the dev team could and should consider, I personally would love to teach children the basics of aerodynamics with Simpleplanes being a part of the actual syllabus instead of some game on the side with vague connection to the subject of Aero...
+3We'll start with this...
Auto trim and Holding angle of attack are two very different functions.
As for PID... Well, unless you have an engineering degree, that's going to be pretty difficult. PID are known to be finnicky to those who can't be bothered to open a desmos graph and plot in the maths. Even then PID's in simple planes are sensitive to the thousandth decimal.
What you want for "Auto trim" is to reduce the PitchRate so that the Pitch Angle doesn't change. Trying something like
+3PitchRate>0.1? PitchRate/25 : (PitchRate(smaller than)-0.1? PitchRate/25 : 0)may work... But I just got that from the top of my head and testing will be needed.@IQinventory All of the world's best fighters clumped into one. How could you NOT love it?
+3@overlord5453 YES. I'M THE ELECTROMAGNETIC FIELD!
+3Also credit to @ThomasRoderick for the editing lol
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+2@SupremeDorian I did though? And I'm not going to be using alts either way. I've gathered 5 volunteers to help, and even if they don't help, I'm ready to do it alone, all by myself, one account. Besides, @Skyjaythefirst has fully confirmed he's definitely in on this.
Also, to support the claim of asking mods before uploading the challenge, check here I tagged Crazyplaness once. And after that, tagging any mod became redundant since volunteers came out and said they'd help instead.
+2@JSTQ no, but major points increase if is.
+2@IFVuser it does!
+2Wanna get tagged when they upload it? I'll probably do the screenshots for them.
@MosquitowithaMachineGun I go with canvas, but I suggest GIMP or something else. I just learnt some exploits on canvas which is why I was able to make that thumbnailwith the plae in front of the text
+2@overlord5453 Okay I'm going to add guns to the thing now ;-;
+2@DrakonDynamics code IS a pain in the bum so I don't actually blame you + you aren't unemployment As heck so of course this is still good stuff
+2@overlord5453 wait, what...? How is a method of appreciation considered harrassment? Wouldn't the context matter?
+2@IQinventory it looks pretty cool too.
+2@Graingy if I really have to explain it, then some of your works show more style and nuance than others, this is a great example. The fact that you have a rather difficult task at hand and the first thing you decided to do is make something akin to a delta wing supersonic is something I don't think a lot of people would choose to do.
I for one, would likely do a long range attack fighter.
Adding to that, you also give off a bit of vibe of being fun, this too, is fun. Therefore, it's very something you'd make.. maybe 1 or, 2 other people would too as well.
+2@theMouse
+2@Rb2h
Thank you guys! Appreciate it
Thank you to everyone who's been with me on this journey. I'll be taking a break for a good while once I'm fully done with the after post stuff of the Quechal ghost
+2The more I explore the Sight the more I realise that so many of these planes are missed oppurtunities for the novaran fighter challenge xD
+2This is amazing!
GURA F-18???? REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
+2@Zerkk
+2What is this some sort of dedicated plane for you?
Cuz DANG they put some effort and then decided it t lovingly called it Darzerkk
This doesn't have to be your last post. There's a good chance it will go well. Keep hope for that chance... It'll prime your body for what is going to come.
+2Best wishes to you and your family, and I request everyone to have a moment of prayer in their hearts.
@Chaunhkhoa
+2@AWESOMENESS360
@TTL
@Solent19 I pride myself on making smooth, near timeless looking designs. @ThomasRoderick (someone I very often ask for opinions) would agree too. He knows how much I like to overdo the beauty over functionality 💀
It has been getting better with the newer stuff I make though, the form follows function ideaology.
+2Simply put, try making each of your fuselage pieces purposeful to a sort of... "Flow". One piece transitions to another.
@WritersCrusadersAirCo2 thank you!
+2@LunarEclipseSP 😭
+2@Graingy imagine not having played simpleplanes 8 : Dimension transcendence
+2@Ayanon Shit I forgot you xD
+2Lots of effort put it into this. Nice stuff!
THAT SAID
-It doesn't actually fly properly without the weapons due to badly balanced CG to the point where it can't even take off
-People download it WITHOUT The weapons attached, which alone is not really a good thing, but okay, you wanted to show the weapons in a cool way, let people choose and all, but it not being able to fly without them is a problem.
-For what it is, that cockpit doesn't even have a screen.
Don't let that discourage you because those are just criticisms. There's things to like here like
+2-Good design. Everything flows and the wings are big enough to accommodate more weight which will help with CG.
-The concept in general of letting people choose weapon loadouts is interesting, but it needs to be better executed.
Wonder how it'd look if you uploaded your own iteration of the echostar.
+2Read the entire thing and I am left rather... I won't say confused, but disoriented. There's huge potential here. The concept of switching to the ethereal being state or whatever that is meant to be can be used immensely well if executed well
Here though... it's uh... it's just daunting. I can't tell what is happening and the main character literally seems to not give a shit. That said, the descriptions that you wrote are great. It paints a vivid picture... and there is, having read the entire thing, a possibly good plot at play here. But it does need a heck of a lot of work to reach that potential it set. Let me know if you want me to try writing it in my way and attempt to fix the issues I pointed out
+2To elaborate on the clarity thing, early on, I can't tell what the stakes are at hand. I can't tell what is going on until much later when the action has long since started. It's only when our main character is beelining towards the broken tubes that I realized that the guys need to fix it quick or the ship can't fire back.
+2@OrangeConnor2 just did.
+2@Graingy I---don't---know---i---ended---up---typing---away
+2@ThomasRoderick This man really had to come out and make everything anyone would ever need for a cockpit 2 years later, eh?
Can't blame him. I would have used every last one of these in the Echostar if I had the chance only because this some quality product right here🤌🤌
+2I just wanna say, that as of right now, 11 minutes after posting this... we have more upvotes than download... 💀
+2@ThomasRoderick
@Bloodius
@Shironeko
You guys had a hand in this. Sorry for the tag and thank you for being a part!
+2@ZerkkOtakuGuy what the hell... its my birthday too.
Lets go dude.
Added bonus, I abso-fricking-lutely love Bocchi. That one scene with here improvised solo, holy crap!
Good to meet you man!
+2This thing is a bloody beauty honestly
+2@ZoaMiki I never forced you like that!
+2I just told you I really wanted to be a part of that thing....
@Rjenteissussy Yeah, U/L3thaPredator said it's what happens when an F-16, F-18 and a mig 29 come together to have a baby. Thank you for the upvote
+2Youve been improving a lot
+1@ToeTips it has to be a successor
+1@windshifter1 no. It doesn't disqualify you. I don't have to worry about self promotion since that's by default now allowed. If you use an alt, I'll hold you accountable for breaking Rule 8 which prohibits any type of cheating and disqualify on that basis.
I'll start a discord server by tomorrow for the people who have volunteered to upvote. Over Time, after that, I may be able to increase the upvote prize, but I'll have to discuss that with you all.
+1@Dracul0Anderson 😶
+1Jesus Christ... Okay.
@SupremeDorian I'll prerequisite with this --- I'll never myself abuse the system.
Now, that said, the irony of that whole ordeal is that the rules for the site don't state that you are not allowed to use alts to help other players. It has a clear rule stating against Upvoting yourself but nothing for Upvoting someone else. So even if I went through with that plan, I'd have all the reasons to defend myself this time around.
But massive respect to you for confirming that we'll in advance. I appreciate that. Helps with the clarity... I'll just really REALLY have to setup that discord and get whoever those 5 are (I don't remember everyone's names) and just start the discussion of how we go about this and if everyone will have the time.
+1@11qazxc actually, frick the adding text, I'll do that, but I'll also work on revamping all those images AND keeping the size low. These current images really need a revamp. I mean, they look okay, but don't match with the theme and need a rework. I'll probably keep all the rules and words the exact same- add one or two clarifications, more imagery about what kind of jet we looking for, such and such. All details that won't affect what players have already started working on. Also, let me know if you want to join a discord server specifically for this challenge
+1